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I'd also like Taichi to explain what the fuck big govt. neocons have to do with limited govt. libertarians.

Neocons have been advocating for larger gov't? Quotes to that effect, please. Oh wait, you don't believe that neocons exists, so WTF are you babbling about. Here's a reality check for you:


"I don't want to abolish government. I simply want to reduce it to the size where I can drag it into the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub."

...Grover Norquist...Ronnie Reagan's choice to head Americans for Tax Reform
 
gee, what would happen then? the city would get screwed, but you libtards can't fathom that, can you?

this is why you shouldn't be in charge, you don't know shit.

The City's argument was if they only charged when the service was needed no one would pay the $75 at the start of the year.

It does seem like they could have saved the house and hit the dude with a fat fine (of course no guarantee they would get paid).
 
This is all just liberal bullshit. Just because the people of Obion county DON'T pay taxes that support the fire dept in South Fulton they should still HAVE to put out fires in Obion County without being compensated. From each according to his ability, to each according to his need. Right Tachi?

Why can't Obion County have a tax system to incorporate the South Fulton?

How about billing the guy, Soc? How about a receipt for the money he had on him at the time, Soc?

How about some fucking human decency, Soc?
 
Neocons have been advocating for larger gov't? Quotes to that effect, please. Oh wait, you don't believe that neocons exists, so WTF are you babbling about. Here's a reality check for you:


"I don't want to abolish government. I simply want to reduce it to the size where I can drag it into the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub."

...Grover Norquist...Ronnie Reagan's choice to head Americans for Tax Reform

Neocons are all about big government. People like Norquist are on the opposite side of the Republican spectrum.
 
typical libtard response when cornered, go for EXACT wording and quotes, like we're gonna say 'oh shit'. no, you're burnt and you know it.

Only a complete idiot would try to bullshit his way past the FACT that he made an EXACT accussation that he could NOT EXACTLY PROVE.

YOU made the statement STY, you fucking intellectual coward.....and as the chronology of the posts shows, YOU COULDN'T PROVIDE PROOF OF YOUR ACCUSATION.
 
Only a complete idiot would try to bullshit his way past the FACT that he made an EXACT accussation that he could NOT EXACTLY PROVE.

YOU made the statement STY, you fucking intellectual coward.....and as the chronology of the posts shows, YOU COULDN'T PROVIDE PROOF OF YOUR ACCUSATION.

the chronology of the posts prove you're a fucking retard.

I showed you where you said this is what happens with limited government would result in private services. It's plainly evident you fucked up.

be a man and own up to it.

oh. also, please try to learn how governments actually work. your bullshit will make more sense then.
 
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
So they couldn't have billed the guy? Taken the money he had on hand and written up a receipt? WTF?


gee, what would happen then? the city would get screwed, but you libtards can't fathom that, can you?

this is why you shouldn't be in charge, you don't know shit.

How would the city have gotten "screwed" if the guy paid them on site and they handed him a receipt, you idiot!

How would the city have gotten "screwed" if they billed him? Cops and bill collectors hunt down and prosecute dead beats all the time, don't cha know?


You're such a fucking loser, STY. In your zeal to defend your belief system, you'll excuse any level of callousness or indifference to fellow human beings. And when your STY "logic" doesn't hold true, you just BS. :palm:
 
the chronology of the posts prove you're a fucking retard. Really? Prove it beyond your opinion, you simpleton...that requires quotes and logic...something STY is short on these days

I showed you where you said this is what happens with limited government would result in private services. It's plainly evident you fucked up.


be a man and own up to it.

It's plainly evident that you think repeating yourself ad nauseum will magically make your claims come true, STY.....but as the chronology of the posts shows, YOU made the accusation that I used the word "privatization" in the opening post.

Clearly, I didn't...and now suddenly the sheer fact and logic of that reality is to be ignored for your personal supposition and conjecture.


oh. also, please try to learn how governments actually work. your bullshit will make more sense then.


Oh grow the fuck up, STY. The article shows EXACTLY how this particular local gov't decision FAILED. Period. And dopes like you would love to expand it across country via the rhetoric of neocon parrots and libertarian blow hards.
But an example in reality just burns your STY ass to no end....TFB. Now, repeat yourself 6 ways to Sunday....you're done.
 
Oh grow the fuck up, STY. The article shows EXACTLY how this particular local gov't decision FAILED. Period. And dopes like you would love to expand it across country via the rhetoric of neocon parrots and libertarian blow hards.
But an example in reality just burns your STY ass to no end....TFB. Now, repeat yourself 6 ways to Sunday....you're done.

so local government failed......repeat that 'GOVERNMENT FAILED' and your brilliant fucking idea is to EXPAND THAT LARGER?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

this is why you're stupid.

government is not logic. It's not reason. It's not sanity. and most of all, it's not compassionate.

THAT is why you need to learn about government works.
 
the chronology of the posts prove you're a fucking retard.

I showed you where you said this is what happens with limited government would result in private services. It's plainly evident you fucked up.

be a man and own up to it.

oh. also, please try to learn how governments actually work. your bullshit will make more sense then.

fyi, i am giving a thumbs down for posts containing profanity
 
so local government failed......repeat that 'GOVERNMENT FAILED' and your brilliant fucking idea is to EXPAND THAT LARGER?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

No genius.....the proper quote is "... this particular local gov't decision FAILED". The whole point of my opening post and subsequent posts was that this particular local gov't decision (pay attention to the sentence structure and phrasing, genius), which reflects the mindset of neocons, birthers, oathers and libertarians, FAILED! I am against the expansion of such idiocy, as the forementioned would want it....but I assumed most readers here have the comprehension level of an 9th grader. Evidently, you don't.

this is why you're stupid.

Says the man who either cannot comprehend what he reads (as I've explained above), or is a very poor liar while claiming to be smarter than everyone. :palm:

government is not logic. It's not reason. It's not sanity. and most of all, it's not compassionate.

Really? Then stay off the public highways, purify your own water, cure your own meats, make your own clothes, don't complain to the police when you get robbed and the criminals cross state lines, don't complain to anyone when your local gov't decides a certain theology rules every aspect of your life, don't complain when your house burns down and the local fire dept. just stands around....and when your boss decides to work you 7 days a week without adequate compensation or any benefits, don't complain. Etc., etc., etc.
THAT is why you need to learn about government works.

Says the pompous jackass who thinks he's smarter than everyone else, aka STY. Clearly, you are advocating a gov't that would resemble a similar situation in Tennessee.....let the man's house burn down for $75 that he didn't pay on time instead of a basic tax on income for a common service.

Say goodnight, gracie...shows over for you.
 
the proper quote is "... this particular local gov't decision FAILED". The whole point of my opening post and subsequent posts was that this particular local gov't decision (pay attention to the sentence structure and phrasing, genius), which reflects the mindset of neocons, birthers, oathers and libertarians, FAILED!
and this is where I called your stupidity. You made this claim and provided no proof of it. It is solely your opinion that you passed off as fact.

I am against the expansion of such idiocy, as the forementioned would want it....but I assumed most readers here have the comprehension level of an 9th grader. Evidently, you don't.

this is why you're stupid. I called you out on your bullshit and now you're all butthurt over it.


government is not logic. It's not reason. It's not sanity. and most of all, it's not compassionate.

Really? Then stay off the public highways, purify your own water, cure your own meats, make your own clothes, don't complain to the police when you get robbed and the criminals cross state lines, don't complain to anyone when your local gov't decides a certain theology rules every aspect of your life, don't complain when your house burns down and the local fire dept. just stands around....and when your boss decides to work you 7 days a week without adequate compensation or any benefits, don't complain. Etc., etc., etc.Says the pompous jackass who thinks he's smarter than everyone else, aka STY. Clearly, you are advocating a gov't that would resemble a similar situation in Tennessee.....let the man's house burn down for $75 that he didn't pay on time instead of a basic tax on income for a common service.
moron, you think that ONLY a huge overbearing government can accomplish the shit you posted? you think that none of the above is possible with a limited government? Or are you going to act like Mott and claim that Libertarians want zero government and everyone fend for themselves in every aspect of life?

Say goodnight, gracie...shows over for you. :good4u:

one other thing....If it was truly a privatized or libertarian based fire department, they would have GLADLY accepted the guys payment and put out the fire. Only a policy bound liberal/socialist type government would stand around like union workers and claim it wasn't their job.

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So they couldn't have billed the guy? Taken the money he had on hand and written up a receipt? WTF?

Yeah, it wasn't the money, was it. They decided they were going to teach the guy a lesson by letting his home burn to the ground, and then try to justify it with that BS excuse.

And re: your comment "If there is a fire in my town that is beyond the capability of the local dept, then they request assistance from the next town and they get it." That's exactly the way it is here, also. No property burns to the ground just because only one fire company turned up. It's about saving lives and minimizing damage, not the effing fee.
 
The City's argument was if they only charged when the service was needed no one would pay the $75 at the start of the year.

It does seem like they could have saved the house and hit the dude with a fat fine (of course no guarantee they would get paid).

Both the owner and the neighbor offered to pay up on the spot.
 
Yeah, it wasn't the money, was it. They decided they were going to teach the guy a lesson by letting his home burn to the ground, and then try to justify it with that BS excuse.

And re: your comment "If there is a fire in my town that is beyond the capability of the local dept, then they request assistance from the next town and they get it." That's exactly the way it is here, also. No property burns to the ground just because only one fire company turned up. It's about saving lives and minimizing damage, not the effing fee.

I'm going to ask again, WHY are you people blaming the FIRE DPT for following the CITY COUNCIL policies?
 
I'm going to ask again, WHY are you people blaming the FIRE DPT for following the CITY COUNCIL policies?

Because it all stinks to high heaven. What happens when this department gets an alarm, does someone run to the computer and bring up a database that shows who did or didn't pay, and if payment wasn't received they still suit up and drive to the scene so they can stand there and (figuratively) say "nyah, nyah, loser"?

The man said he forgot to pay this year. Nobody from the city came forth and said "Cranick's a liar, he's never paid for any year", which would support their claim that he was just avoiding payment.

My opinion is, you save the property and animals on humanitarian grounds and argue the details later. But the whole business about checking records before responding reeks.
 
and why did they not accept the payment?

Oh, I don't know. Because the city is run like the Mafia and he didn't pay his protection money in advance?

The man said he forgot to pay and the city decided that his forgetfulness would cost him his property and his house pets.

It wasn't about the money.
 
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