Come January!

cawacko said:
For starters my basic point was there was actual discussion to be had over the Democratic primary. This idea of 'I like both so nothing is worth talking about' I don't really buy. What we get instead are dozens upon dozens of Trump threads as if the Dems don't exist.

Regarding Hillary here change of position/flop on TPP was clearly driven by Bernie. The fact that she's out selling it as a great deal while S.O.S. and then seeing the political winds among primary voters on trade facilitated that.

And the foreign policy differences between the two aren't worthy of discussion? Clearly Hillary has been more hawkish to go along with her Iraq vote. I personally don't think Bernie knows almost anything about foreign policy but that hasn't been brought up by Bernie supporters. There's a lot out there that can be discussed.
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The TPP probably is because I do think she is pro free-trade, however, she did her job as the President's SOS, and I don't hold that against her either way. Nor am I even against free-trade.

Hillary is way more hawkish than Sanders that is true. I'm more than happy to discuss the Democratic primary. The problem is most liberals I know either support Sanders, or like him. I can't stand him. I've actually had more fights with berners I know than Trump supporters. But the Trumpsters are family, and you know, family is family. We don't fight about it, we're family. Family is more important than politicians.

Regarding the Dem primary, I hold back here but you should read my text messages.
 
Darla said:
The TPP probably is because I do think she is pro free-trade, however, she did her job as the President's SOS, and I don't hold that against her either way. Nor am I even against free-trade.

Hillary is way more hawkish than Sanders that is true. I'm more than happy to discuss the Democratic primary. The problem is most liberals I know either support Sanders, or like him. I can't stand him. I've actually had more fights with berners I know than Trump supporters. But the Trumpsters are family, and you know, family is family. We don't fight about it, we're family. Family is more important than politicians.

Regarding the Dem primary, I hold back here but you should read my text messages.
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It's a free board and people who come here can discuss whatever they would like. From what I've read elsewhere and to the points you're making Jarod is full of sh*t claiming there's nothing to discuss within the Democratic campaign.
 
cawacko said:
I'm not making this personal just bringing it up for discussion. You say you're a socialist at heart, you say you've voted for Jill Stein and now you have a Democratic Socialist making significant noise in the Democratic Primary and that doesn't bring out any passion for discussion?
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Guess I'm not sure what you're looking for. I've read On the Issues for Bern and Hil and agree with the biggest parts of what they stand for. What should I be discussing? There have been a lot of threads about Hillary, fewer about Bernie. I've contributed a lot to the Hillary threads. I love Bernie's ideas but am not so gullible as to think he has a chance to implement them.

Bill (and Hillary) Clinton was the leader of the DLC which moved the Democratic Party in a different direction from it's traditional roots. Now you have the Bernie's, Elizabeth Warren's and Obama's very much pushing back the power of the DLC and taking control of the party. Again, that doesn't evoke any passion or desire for discussion?
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I have to plead ignorance on the DLC, read up on it and get back to you.

Hillary Clinton has more of the pragmatic beliefs her husband does. She's clearly changed positions and moved left during the primary trying to compete with Bernie. Whether she will stay there or govern more like her husband if she is President isn't anything worth discussing?
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I don't like Hillary's hawkishness at all and think she'll be more militaristic than Bill. It's pretty hard to discuss what someone will do in the future but if the past is predictor, I suspect she'll be the same type of prez as she was as senator. People in the Senate liked her.

There are some Democrats who are desiring Bernie essentially slow down/stop his campaign now so Hillary can pivot towards the General. Bernie has said he is taking his campaign all the way to the convention. Nothing on that?
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I disagree about slowing down or stopping. He should stay as long as he wants or his money holds out.

If you believe what Darla posted there has been some/much sexism from the Bernie Bro's. Nothing?
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Again, I haven't paid as much attention to Bern as I have to Trump and Hil. But obviously I'm against any sexism from his campaign.

Hillary has high unfavorable ratings, especially among men and millenials and is not all that well loved among women. And voters have issues of trust with her. Not discussion worthy?

I could add more but you get the point. I guess I don't see 'nothing' happening in the Democratic Primary that's worthy of discussion. I read my Facebook feed (which politically is dominated by liberals) and I see some pretty passionate Bernie supporters pleading their case for him and I see some passionate Bernie vs. Hillary discussions. So I know it's out there and people are having them.
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We've been discussing Hillary on this forum since 2012. Put her name in forum search and you'll probably come up with the maximum 80 pages of threads involving her. Some people here have told me I'm too defensive of Hillary for a Bernie supporter. Others say I'm going to vote for her because she has a vagina. So I disagree that there haven't been enough discussions about Hillary.
 
cawacko said:
It's a free board and people who come here can discuss whatever they would like. From what I've read elsewhere and to the points you're making Jarod is full of sh*t claiming there's nothing to discuss within the Democratic campaign.
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Search function, Cawacko. Eighty pages for Hillary, 41 for Trump.
 
cawacko said:
It's a free board and people who come here can discuss whatever they would like. From what I've read elsewhere and to the points you're making Jarod is full of sh*t claiming there's nothing to discuss within the Democratic campaign.
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Are you trying to use me to paint Jarod as full of shit? That's not nice Cawacko!

Everyone has different views of it. A lot of people are more laid back than I am. Jarod is one of them. Let's just say my motto for election 2016 is "Dickless 2016!". I've texted that to a few of my more impassioned friends. Still hasn't shut them up. It appears that nothing will. Rune is the only Bernie supporter I know who shows respect for my opinions and feelings on the matter. The rest of them only want to hear themselves talk. If you saw my texts with a certain someone you are familiar with you would probably laugh your ass off. Believe me I have never skewered anyone here the way I have been skewering him. So all those years of being mocked and told you should sue your university have been avenged, in a way. ;)
 
I Love America said:
I have. Not much different than the drivel you post here
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You remind me of an old whore who used to post here and claim she had seen my DWI arrest record. She assumed that 1) I'm paranoid and 2) someone like me MUST have a DWI record. She was wrong on both counts.

You're no smarter than she was and she was a dumbass.

Have a nice day.
 
Darla said:
You remind me of an old whore who used to post here and claim she had seen my DWI arrest record. She assumed that 1) I'm paranoid and 2) someone like me MUST have a DWI record. She was wrong on both counts.

You're no smarter than she was and she was a dumbass.

Have a nice day.
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I don't think that you had a DUI. Not living in NY.

You are nothing more than a play thing for me sugar tits. Who knows maybe you can run to Grind and have him protect you from big bad ILA again. Rune can't handle the job he might have another heart attack.
 
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