Come January!

I Love America said:
Judging by left winger threads you wouldn't even know a democrat party nomination is taking place.

Look at the debacle in Nevada the other night. Nary a word out of the lefties about it. Nothing

What is odd is that all of JPP lefties claim that they supported Obama over Crooked Hillary in 2008 because of her Iraq vote. Well Bernie voted against Iraq. And now these same lefties have all of a sudden forgiven that cardinal sin of voting for Iraw
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It's interesting that Darla, who hasn't posted here in months, comes back and in just a few posts has spoken more about the Democratic primary than any of the regular left leaning JPP posters. And she actually criticized Bernie and (some of) his supporters. Again, something we haven't heard from any JPP regular.

It's like these liberal posters signed the Grover Norquist anti-tax pledge equivalent where they can't disagree with each other at all.
 
I Love America said:
Judging by left winger threads you wouldn't even know a democrat party nomination is taking place.

Look at the debacle in Nevada the other night. Nary a word out of the lefties about it. Nothing

What is odd is that all of JPP lefties claim that they supported Obama over Crooked Hillary in 2008 because of her Iraq vote. Well Bernie voted against Iraq. And now these same lefties have all of a sudden forgiven that cardinal sin of voting for Iraw
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This is one of the reasons I supported and gave money to Sanders and not Clinton.

Now, you supported Lyin Ted, I did not see much from you during the primary... why is that?
 
cawacko said:
It's interesting that Darla, who hasn't posted here in months, comes back and in just a few posts has spoken more about the Democratic primary than any of the regular left leaning JPP posters. And she actually criticized Bernie and (some of) his supporters. Again, something we haven't heard from any JPP regular.

It's like these liberal posters signed the Grover Norquist anti-tax pledge equivalent where they can't disagree with each other at all.
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nobody's talking about a contested convention. Sanders has said he'll support the nomination.
He's also clear there has to be votes in the rest of the primarys-why deny further the people's right to be heard?

He's also talking about the closed primary system which disenfranchises voters ( a problem for both partys).

There has been significant debate here from sanders and HRC supporters.
I don't think you've been paying attention , with all due respect.
 
Jarod said:
Women who stay with a man after an affair are evil... Men who have multiple affairs are okay.
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women who threaten the women having the affair is evil. dont pretend hillary is an innocent in all of this. One of her pluses is her machiavellian nature.
 
tsuke said:
women who threaten the women having the affair is evil. dont pretend hillary is an innocent in all of this. One of her pluses is her machiavellian nature.
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You have some evidence HRC threatened the women who had the affair?

Or are you just buying it because Dangerous Don said so, like the others?
 
anatta said:
nobody's talking about a contested convention. Sanders has said he'll support the nomination.
He's also clear there has to be votes in the rest of the primarys-why deny further the people's right to be heard?

He's also talking about the closed primary system which disenfranchises voters ( a problem for both partys).

There has been significant debate here from sanders and HRC supporters.
I don't think you've been paying attention , with all due respect.
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Other than you and Darlune there has been almost no debate involving Crooked Hillary and Bernie.

There have been lots of intense conversations among righties
 
cawacko said:
It's interesting that Darla, who hasn't posted here in months, comes back and in just a few posts has spoken more about the Democratic primary than any of the regular left leaning JPP posters. And she actually criticized Bernie and (some of) his supporters. Again, something we haven't heard from any JPP regular.

It's like these liberal posters signed the Grover Norquist anti-tax pledge equivalent where they can't disagree with each other at all.
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What do you want left-leaners to say? I'm supporting Bernie but am good with a Hillary win also. The Dem candidates have carried on a mostly civilized campaign and none of them can match Trump for his lies, anger, hatred and character flaws. Trump calls for the negative comments he gets so who am I to deprive him? :)
 
christiefan915 said:
What do you want left-leaners to say? I'm supporting Bernie but am good with a Hillary win also. The Dem candidates have carried on a mostly civilized campaign and none of them can match Trump for his lies, anger, hatred and character flaws. Trump calls for the negative comments he gets so who am I to deprive him? :)
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This is a great point.

Nobody called anyone any names... in the Republican race nobody acted like a 5 year old, no temper tantrums. Nobody talked about their dick size... it was simply not as interesting of a race because the candidates acted like grown ups.
 
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Jarod said:
This is a great point.

Nobody called anyone any names [like] in the Republican race, nobody acted like a 5 year old, no temper tantrums. Nobody talked about their dick size... it was simply not as interesting of a race because the candidates acted like grown ups.
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Exactly.
 
Jarod said:
Nobody called anyone any names in the Republican race nobody acted like a 5 year old, no temper tantrums. Nobody talked about their dick size... it was simply not as interesting of a race because the candidates acted like grown ups.
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couldn't agree more......but what about the Democrats?.....
 
christiefan915 said:
What do you want left-leaners to say? I'm supporting Bernie but am good with a Hillary win also. The Dem candidates have carried on a mostly civilized campaign and none of them can match Trump for his lies, anger, hatred and character flaws. Trump calls for the negative comments he gets so who am I to deprive him? :)
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I'm not making this personal just bringing it up for discussion. You say you're a socialist at heart, you say you've voted for Jill Stein and now you have a Democratic Socialist making significant noise in the Democratic Primary and that doesn't bring out any passion for discussion?

Bill (and Hillary) Clinton was the leader of the DLC which moved the Democratic Party in a different direction from it's traditional roots. Now you have the Bernie's, Elizabeth Warren's and Obama's very much pushing back the power of the DLC and taking control of the party. Again, that doesn't evoke any passion or desire for discussion?

Hillary Clinton has more of the pragmatic beliefs her husband does. She's clearly changed positions and moved left during the primary trying to compete with Bernie. Whether she will stay there or govern more like her husband if she is President isn't anything worth discussing?

There are some Democrats who are desiring Bernie essentially slow down/stop his campaign now so Hillary can pivot towards the General. Bernie has said he is taking his campaign all the way to the convention. Nothing on that?

If you believe what Darla posted there has been some/much sexism from the Bernie Bro's. Nothing?

Hillary has high unfavorable ratings, especially among men and millenials and is not all that well loved among women. And voters have issues of trust with her. Not discussion worthy?

I could add more but you get the point. I guess I don't see 'nothing' happening in the Democratic Primary that's worthy of discussion. I read my Facebook feed (which politically is dominated by liberals) and I see some pretty passionate Bernie supporters pleading their case for him and I see some passionate Bernie vs. Hillary discussions. So I know it's out there and people are having them.
 
The DLC was dead long before this primary. It's all about the Obama coalition now. Bernie hasn't made any inroads there and won't.

As for Hillary being moved to the left by Bernie that is conventional wisdom and when you go back and look at the positions she took at the very start, I believe it's false. In fact, Hillary moved Bernie to the left on guns.

Having watched Hillary since she became First Lady and was demonized by you guys Cawacko, as a wild-eyed feminazi leftist, and knowing that it was said by many insiders that she was to the left of Bill during his Presidency and that caused internal problems among staff, I don't believe she's as conservative as she is portrayed by the pitchfork left.
 
Darla said:
The DLC was dead long before this primary. It's all about the Obama coalition now. Bernie hasn't made any inroads there and won't.

As for Hillary being moved to the left by Bernie that is conventional wisdom and when you go back and look at the positions she took at the very start, I believe it's false. In fact, Hillary moved Bernie to the left on guns.

Having watched Hillary since she became First Lady and was demonized by you guys Cawacko, as a wild-eyed feminazi leftist, and knowing that it was said by many insiders that she was to the left of Bill during his Presidency and that caused internal problems among staff, I don't believe she's as conservative as she is portrayed by the pitchfork left.
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For starters my basic point was there was actual discussion to be had over the Democratic primary. This idea of 'I like both so nothing is worth talking about' I don't really buy. What we get instead are dozens upon dozens of Trump threads as if the Dems don't exist.

Regarding Hillary here change of position/flop on TPP was clearly driven by Bernie. The fact that she's out selling it as a great deal while S.O.S. and then seeing the political winds among primary voters on trade facilitated that.

And the foreign policy differences between the two aren't worthy of discussion? Clearly Hillary has been more hawkish to go along with her Iraq vote. I personally don't think Bernie knows almost anything about foreign policy but that hasn't been brought up by Bernie supporters. There's a lot out there that can be discussed.
 
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