Colorado woman faces no jail time for statutory rape, pregnancy by 13-year-old boy

[Scott]

Rape is a type of sexual assault involving sexual intercourse or other forms of sexual penetration carried out against a person without their consent.

I see you've put your sentence in italics. Are you quoting a dictionary or are you just putting your sentence in italics for emphasis? In any case, both The American Heritage and Merriam Webster dictionaries list sexual penetration without the other party's consent as only one type of rape. They also list other types, one of which is having sex with someone below the age of consent.

Feel free to look at their definitions for yourself if you don't believe me:

https://www.wordnik.com/words/rape

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/rape

Nice. Focusing on the usage of italics when the definition has already been posted before.

I can certainly agree that multiple dictionary definitions of rape have been posted by both myself (Post #80) and Diesel (Post #91). I was simply wondering if you had put your words in italics because you were quoting a dictionary or whether you just wanted to give your own words more emphasis.

 

[Phantasmal]

The position is calling people out for calling her a rapist. It is not the definition of rape.

It is statutory rape, that is the difference.

Statutory rape is defined by statute as an act of sexual intercourse with a person under the age of consent, which is considered to constitute rape under the law, whether the person is willing or not. In statutory rape, there is usually no overt force or threat.

https://www.law.cornell.edu › wex

[h=3]statutory rape | Wex | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute[/h]

 

[Scott]

The position is calling people out for calling her a rapist. It is not the definition of rape.

It is statutory rape, that is the difference.

Statutory rape is defined by statute as an act of sexual intercourse with a person under the age of consent, which is considered to constitute rape under the law, whether the person is willing or not. In statutory rape, there is usually no overt force or threat.

https://www.law.cornell.edu › wex

[h=3]statutory rape | Wex | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute[/h]

Lefty seems to have a hard time coming to terms with the fact that statutory rape is legally defined as a type of rape. I certainly don't think it -should- be defined as a type of rape, but rather as a type of unlawful sex, with rape being one type, and sex with someone under the age of consent in one's jurisdiction as being another type. That way, we would be able to more easily differentiate between those who were forced into having sex and those who wanted to have sex with someone but weren't legally allowed to do so. But I accept that legally speaking, it is defined as a type of rape, and that at least 2 well known dictionaries define it this was as well.

 

[Diesel]

It is statutory rape. Not an actual rape.

There is no distinction between statutory rape and "actual" rape. You made that up in your head and frankly, it's fucking foul to watch you excuse and justify child abuse. Way to give the forum Nazis ammo against the libs they hate.

 

[ExpressLane]

I'm socked so many people excuse an obvious case of pedophilia. I thought everyone would see this as wrong.

 

[ExpressLane]

Lefty seems to have a hard time coming to terms with the fact that statutory rape is legally defined as a type of rape. I certainly don't think it -should- be defined as a type of rape, but rather as a type of unlawful sex, with rape being one type, and sex with someone under the age of consent in one's jurisdiction as being another type. That way, we would be able to more easily differentiate between those who were forced into having sex and those who wanted to have sex with someone but weren't legally allowed to do so. But I accept that legally speaking, it is defined as a type of rape, and that at least 2 well known dictionaries define it this was as well.

If a guy goes out with a girl and she gets drunk but she tells him no and he has sex with her anyway. Is it rape.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

If a guy goes out with a girl and she gets drunk but she tells him no and he has sex with her anyway. Is it rape.

Correct. Also, anyone who cannot give legal consent due to age or mental illness is a rape victim even if they say yes.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

If a guy goes out with a girl and she gets drunk but she tells him no and he has sex with her anyway. Is it rape.

How the fuck is that even a question?

Does the consumption of adult beverages change the meaning of the word "NO?"

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Which is why it is statutory rape.

If you have a problem with this, take it up with the lawmakers.

"Don't Be Uppity by Getting It Up, Boy"

Those hired agents of the ruling class are little wusses who never grew up, always afraid of doing anything that might jeopardize their future as flunkies. That's why they want American teenagers to never grow up, either.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

The lawmakers are constitutionally proscribed from making different laws according to gender. Understandably.

That's why we haven't reinstated the military draft yet.

That said, if a sane person tells me that he/she can't see the difference
between adult male / adolescent girl
and
adult woman / adolescent boy,
then I'm calling that person a liar to his/her face.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

I can certainly agree that multiple dictionary definitions of rape have been posted by both myself (Post #80) and Diesel (Post #91). I was simply wondering if you had put your words in italics because you were quoting a dictionary or whether you just wanted to give your own words more emphasis.

A Permissive (#StupidSpeak: "Descriptive") Dictionary Is a Contradiction in Terms (#StupidSpeak: "an Oxymoron")

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

If a guy goes out with a girl and she gets drunk but she tells him no and he has sex with her anyway. Is it rape?

Not When It Produces the First African-American President

 

[NiftyNiblick]

The lawmakers are constitutionally proscribed from making different laws according to gender. Understandably.

That's why we haven't reinstated the military draft yet.

That said, if a sane person tells me that he/she can't see the difference
between adult male / adolescent girl
and
adult woman / adolescent boy,
then I'm calling that person a liar to his/her face.

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[AProudLefty]

There is no distinction between statutory rape and "actual" rape. You made that up in your head and frankly, it's fucking foul to watch you excuse and justify child abuse. Way to give the forum Nazis ammo against the libs they hate.

One more time. Rape is the forced penetration.

 

[AProudLefty]

I'm socked so many people excuse an obvious case of pedophilia. I thought everyone would see this as wrong.

It isn't a case of pedophilia. Certainly as a doctor you could see that.

 

[AProudLefty]

It is statutory rape, that is the difference.

Statutory rape is defined by statute as an act of sexual intercourse with a person under the age of consent, which is considered to constitute rape under the law, whether the person is willing or not. In statutory rape, there is usually no overt force or threat.

https://www.law.cornell.edu › wex

[h=3]statutory rape | Wex | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute[/h]

That's what I am saying.

From the link: In statutory rape, there is usually no overt force or threat.

See right there? Overt force.

 

[AProudLefty]

I can certainly agree that multiple dictionary definitions of rape have been posted by both myself (Post #80) and Diesel (Post #91). I was simply wondering if you had put your words in italics because you were quoting a dictionary or whether you just wanted to give your own words more emphasis.

Oh my apologies. It's from the dictionary.

 

[AProudLefty]

if I became a real woman and had sex with an underaged person it would be rape.......and I would still be smarter than anyone who speaks for the left.......

Then you'd be in prison for 25 to life.

Cope.

 

[AProudLefty]

As Diesel, myself and Guille have now pointed out, it is, both in terms of the law and in terms of the dictionary. I quoted The American Heritage Dictionary in Post #80 to make my point, Diesel quoted Merriam Webster to make the exact same point.

I definitely think this is a travesty. People who are forcibly raped should -not- be in the same category as people who consented to having sex but were not legally allowed to do so. I know that the word used is generally legally capable, but if we're defining consent as simple assent, an adolescent boy is certainly capable of assenting. Sometimes language is overly ambiguous and I definitely think that the word rape has become so ambiguous that people need to be very specific as to what -type- of rape we're talking about.

I think the biggest problem with lumping people who aren't allowed to consent to having sex with people who are forcibly raped is that experiences are frequently vastly different. As I pointed out in Post #40, there is at least 1 case where a young adolescent male who had sex with an adult woman claimed to love her and even got married with her once he became an adult.

I think most of us would agree that this generally doesn't happen when someone is forcibly raped, at least not if the person raped has any say in the matter.

Exactly! You've said it better than me!

 

[Lightbringer]

Exactly! You've said it better than me!

You're both wrong.