Colleges Should Be More Than Just Vocational Schools

So you lived off welfare and made taxpayers pay for your education.

That would describe you. I signed a contract with an employer to perform services for that employer in exchange for compensation as spelled out in the contract. Welfare, as you know being on it, is money given without any strings attached. You get it for doing nothing, which apparently other than whining on this board, is about all you do.
 
That would describe you. I signed a contract with an employer to perform services for that employer in exchange for compensation as spelled out in the contract. Welfare, as you know being on it, is money given without any strings attached. You get it for doing nothing, which apparently other than whining on this board, is about all you do.

No, I paid for college. You are a welfare queen.
 
History majors had a lower unemployment rate than economics, business management or communications majors, and their salaries barely lag behind in those fields, according to a recent study. Art history majors do just fine, too, with strong projected job growth in the next decade.

And despite the sneers, those with bachelor’s degrees in philosophy have an average salary around $76,000, according to PayScale.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/02/opinion/humanities-liberal-arts-policy-higher-education.html
 
America’s higher education system was founded on the liberal arts and the widespread understanding that mass access to art, culture, language and science were essential if America was to thrive.

In 1947, a presidential commission bemoaned an education system where a student “may have gained technical or professional training” while being “only incidentally, if at all, made ready for performing his duties as a man, a parent and a citizen.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/02/opinion/humanities-liberal-arts-policy-higher-education.html

And pray tell, what were the commonly accepted standards of the time (76 years ago) for one to be considered "ready for performing his duties as a man, a parent and a citizen”?
 
College students should be required to present a business plan on where they intend to find a job what the odds of them finding that job and how long and how large a payment would be for them to pay off their college loan BEFORE they receive a federally insured college loan. Every college should be required to teach a 2hr class for each freshman, sophomore, junior and senior year on college loans and grants and scholarships.

BTW I'd love to watch a typical liberal arts student that looks down their noses at tradesmen try to figure out how to wire their own house or frame it. :laugh:

My son is a fireman and his best friend is a Mechanical engineer. They went to high school together. My son STILL makes more money and has worked in his field for 3 more years and has ZERO college debt.

Ah, I see. Money is the metric by which you measure things.
 
That would describe you. I signed a contract with an employer to perform services for that employer in exchange for compensation as spelled out in the contract. Welfare, as you know being on it, is money given without any strings attached. You get it for doing nothing, which apparently other than whining on this board, is about all you do.
BOOM !!!!! :laugh:
 
Ah, I see. Money is the metric by which you measure things.
Oh I don't know but my son has saved multiple lives and his friend designs AC units. But yes lack of debt and a very comfortable lifestyle is pretty important also.


I have a granddaughter who married a deadbeat (not my son's kid). He literally told me money wasn't important to him (He won't keep a job.) So he has had her call to beg me for money when he was going to get evicted and when this car was getting repossessed and when his kid needed a minor surgery. (Which was really covered under Medicaid :palm:)
 
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America’s higher education system was founded on the liberal arts and the widespread understanding that mass access to art, culture, language and science were essential if America was to thrive.

In 1947, a presidential commission bemoaned an education system where a student “may have gained technical or professional training” while being “only incidentally, if at all, made ready for performing his duties as a man, a parent and a citizen.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/02/opinion/humanities-liberal-arts-policy-higher-education.html

75 years later we have the Internet. People can learn whatever they like. Look at Khan Academy for an example:

https://www.khanacademy.org/
 
America’s higher education system was founded on the liberal arts and the widespread understanding that mass access to art, culture, language and science were essential if America was to thrive.

In 1947, a presidential commission bemoaned an education system where a student “may have gained technical or professional training” while being “only incidentally, if at all, made ready for performing his duties as a man, a parent and a citizen.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/02/opinion/humanities-liberal-arts-policy-higher-education.html

but now that academics are indoctrinated, anti-individual and totalitarian, humanity would be better off if your institutions were disbanded.

:truestory:
 
Mathematics is logic.

I wouldn't necessarily say that.
Euclidean geometry, in terms of the theorems, uses formal logic.

But math as a whole is a rule based system. There's nothing that says 1 plus 1 has to equal two. That's a convention we use. In the binary system 1 plus 1 equals 10.

Formal logic in language, thought, and analysis comes from Aristotle and is typically taught in philosopy at the upper undergraduate level.
 
I wouldn't necessarily say that.
Euclidean geometry, in terms of the theorems, uses formal logic.

But math as a whole is a rule based system. There's nothing that says 1 plus 1 has to equal two. That's a convention we use. In the binary system 1 plus 1 equals 10.

Formal logic in language, thought, and analysis comes from Aristotle and is typically taught in philosopy at the upper undergraduate level.

Well, in calculus, 1 + 1 approaches 2 as the limit of a function.
 
Two leaders of the Republican Party. Trump went to University of Pennsylvania. DeSantis went to Harvard Law School.

See the irony there, righties?
 
America’s higher education system was founded on the liberal arts and the widespread understanding that mass access to art, culture, language and science were essential if America was to thrive.

In 1947, a presidential commission bemoaned an education system where a student “may have gained technical or professional training” while being “only incidentally, if at all, made ready for performing his duties as a man, a parent and a citizen.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/02/opinion/humanities-liberal-arts-policy-higher-education.html

Woke Democrats have already destroyed most colleges,

what time would you like it to start?
 
Disagree. I want my barista well educated .

And my bartender,...you know,...like AOC! :laugh: Im positive than when she was bar tending and had to bend over to grab a bottle the very first thing that came to mind for all the guys and maybe even a few bull dikes that happened to be in there was how magnificent of a mind she had. Just positive....;)
 
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