Christmas is racist

Jack said:
hahahahahahahahahahaha ....... Thanks for proving my point! Some how, some way, the Christian-types just can't help themselves by trying to take over and rewrite History.

"Many Americans celebrate our founding father and all they did to help create our country. What few of them know is that many of the founding fathers were also freemasons. Some of the more notable founding fathers to also be masons are: George Washington, Ben Franklin lead the Pennsylvania chapter, Paul Revere lead a Massachusetts chapter, John Hancock, and Chief Justice John Marshall who greatly influenced the shaping of the Supreme Court. All together it is believed that about nine of the fifty-six men that signed the Declaration of Independence were masons, and about thirteen of the thirty-nine that signed the US Constitutions were also masons.'
http://projects.leadr.msu.edu/union...he-murder-of-w/freemason-and-the-founding-fat

YOUR people sponsored the Spanish Inquisition. One of the High Points in Christian History.
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I don't know what conspiracies you have bought into, but the Masons are not an anti-Christian organization.
 
Jack said:
Here's the ONLY Catholic contribution:

"Charles Carroll (September 19, 1737 – November 14, 1832), known as Charles Carroll of Carrollton or Charles Carroll III to distinguish him from his similarly-named relatives,[2] was a wealthy Maryland planter and an early advocate of independence from the Kingdom of Great Britain and one of the signers of the American Declaration of Independence. He is sometimes referred to as one of the Founding Fathers of the United States of America, although he was not involved in framing the United States Constitution. He served as a delegate to the Continental Congress and Confederation Congress and later as first United States Senator for Maryland. He was the sole Catholic signer of the Declaration of Independence.[3]"
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I figure that, since we were the only Christians to walk with Christ, that, good deeds accomplished by protestants over the past 500 years is something we can be proud of, for they would not know Christ without our nearly 2000 years of ministry and councils.
 
Threedee said:
I figure that, since we were the only Christians to walk with Christ, that, good deeds accomplished by protestants over the past 500 years is something we can be proud of, for they would not know Christ without our nearly 2000 years of ministry and councils.
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You know, it's been said that except for the Church, Man would have been on the Moon 500 years earlier.

I don't want to get into a Religious Cult discussion with you, I have no interest in it. But the dogma of the Church made them kill the Thinkers of the day. Anyone that had a different thought was burned at the stake, alive. That's the problem with the Religious Cults, they are stuck in a Time Frame. They aren't able to be agile and change when the facts change. How long did it take for the Church to acknowledge that the Sun was the Center of the Solar System?
 
Jack said:
I'm not sure where JPP found all these Man-God Worshippers, odd there are so many in one place, but either way, I'm just pointing out how they have leeched onto a more Important Historical Date to seize upon to try and promote their Cult.
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Aw isn't that cute, tell ya what you worship the season or day I will worship he who created it and if we both mind our own business everyone will be happy. It still amazes me how much you whiny atheists care about something you don't believe in. every man and woman has an innate knowledge of God.

http://www.embracedbytruth.com/God/God's Existence/Innate Knowledge of God.htm
 
iolo said:
In many Protestant countries, including my own, Christmas wasn't celebrated because people didn't approve of the mass. It's crept back now, because there's money in it, but for at least a century we celebrated New Year instead (sometimes the Old New Year from before the calendar change), and at least one of the carols you pinched from us for Christmas is meant for New Year.
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It was the one you call, 'Deck the Halls'.
 
Jack said:
You know, it's been said that except for the Church, Man would have been on the Moon 500 years earlier.

I don't want to get into a Religious Cult discussion with you, I have no interest in it. But the dogma of the Church made them kill the Thinkers of the day. Anyone that had a different thought was burned at the stake, alive. That's the problem with the Religious Cults, they are stuck in a Time Frame. They aren't able to be agile and change when the facts change. How long did it take for the Church to acknowledge that the Sun was the Center of the Solar System?
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I guess you'd better find a secluded swamp...



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Jack said:
You know, it's been said that except for the Church, Man would have been on the Moon 500 years earlier.

I don't want to get into a Religious Cult discussion with you, I have no interest in it. But the dogma of the Church made them kill the Thinkers of the day. Anyone that had a different thought was burned at the stake, alive. That's the problem with the Religious Cults, they are stuck in a Time Frame. They aren't able to be agile and change when the facts change. How long did it take for the Church to acknowledge that the Sun was the Center of the Solar System?
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The Ptolemaic view of the solar system was inherited from pagan Rome. Not really sure why Medieval Europe was so insistent on defending it, but, it did give adherents a lot of work, because the math behind it was difficult to work out, and kept becoming more so over time.
 
Threedee said:
The Ptolemaic view of the solar system was inherited from pagan Rome. Not really sure why Medieval Europe was so insistent on defending it, but, it did give adherents a lot of work, because the math behind it was difficult to work out, and kept becoming more so over time.
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"1822: The College of Cardinals finally caves in to the hard facts of science, saying that the "publication of works treating of the motion of the Earth and the stability of the sun, in accordance with the opinion of modern astronomers, is permitted."
"It represented a major shift in dogma for the Catholic Church, a concession that the Earth, in fact, might revolve around the sun. Unfortunately, it came 189 years too late to do Galileo Galilei any good."
https://www.wired.com/2008/09/sept-11-1822-church-admits-its-not-all-about-us-2/
 
Threedee said:
My people (Christians) founded America. Your people (atheists) founded the Soviet Union. I think that my people did a better job, given that the USSR didn't even survive into the 21st Century.
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no the christstains didn't found America, most of the founding fathers were deists

https://study.com/academy/lesson/deism-the-founding-fathers-definition-beliefs-quiz.html


Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity.
-Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia, 1782


The whole history of these books [the Gospels] is so defective and doubtful that it seems vain to attempt minute enquiry into it: and such tricks have been played with their text, and with the texts of other books relating to them, that we have a right, from that cause, to entertain much doubt what parts of them are genuine. In the New Testament there is internal evidence that parts of it have proceeded from an extraordinary man; and that other parts are of the fabric of very inferior minds. It is as easy to separate those parts, as to pick out diamonds from dunghills.
-Thomas Jefferson, letter to John Adams, January 24, 1814


Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law.
-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Dr. Thomas Cooper, February 10, 1814

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus."

-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Francis Adrian Van der Kemp, 30 July, 1816

The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus by the Supreme Being in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter. ... But we may hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away with all this artificial scaffolding....

“The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.”

—John Adams

“Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise.”
James Madison — Letter to Wm. Bradford, April 1, 1774


The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity. Nowhere in the Gospels do we find a precept for Creeds, Confessions, Oaths, Doctrines, and whole cartloads of other foolish trumpery that we find in Christianity.”
John Adams


88 Founding Father Quotes That Will Enrage The Religious Right

http://liberalamerica.life/2014/10/...-quotes-that-will-enrage-the-religious-right/
 
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I love making a mockery of Christmas by having a consumer orgie and watching as their kids accept a bearded glutton or the grinch or a talking snowman replacing Jesus.
 
Micawber said:
I love making a mockery of Christmas by having a consumer orgie and watching as their kids accept a bearded glutton or the grinch or a talking snowman replacing Jesus.
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So you don't celebrate Christmas? Have you ever?
 
Micawber said:
I love making a mockery of Christmas by having a consumer orgie and watching as their kids accept a bearded glutton or the grinch or a talking snowman replacing Jesus.
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It's what children do. Obviously, you were mocked as a child, but nothing's changed, has it?
 
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