Christian Nationalism is an enemy of democracy.

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“A worldview that claims God as a political partisan and dehumanizes one’s political opponents as evil is fundamentally antidemocratic.” He tells me, “A mind-set that believes that our nation was divinely ordained to be a promised land for Christians of European descent is incompatible with the U.S. Constitution’s guarantee of freedom of religion and equality of all.”

If one is convinced God wants only one side to govern, then democracy falls by the wayside. That’s not even the subtext of the Meadows and Thomas messages; it’s out in the open.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...ckson-hearings-reveal-politics-of-absolutism/
 
That’s a problem that goes way beyond the Supreme Court. Democracy functions only with restraint, good-faith application of procedural rules and devotion to the principle that the other side gets to govern when it wins. That concept is now an anathema to the GOP. As Thomas Zimmer has written for the Guardian, “Many Republicans agree that the Democratic Party is a fundamentally illegitimate political faction — and that any election outcome that would lead to Democratic governance must be rejected as illegitimate as well.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...ckson-hearings-reveal-politics-of-absolutism/
 
The fundamental problem is that Republicans have won a majority of the popular vote for president just ONCE in the past thirty years. It won't get much better, and they know it.

So obviously democracy isn't working. Gotta find something else.

They could try building a responsible, tolerant, moderate conservative party of a type found in many other advanced countries. But they'd have to start from scratch ...
 
PostmodernProphet said:
lib'ruls demonstrate their ignorance ranting about things that do not exist......
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What Is Christian Nationalism?

Christian nationalism is the belief that the American nation is defined by Christianity, and that the government should take active steps to keep it that way. Popularly, Christian nationalists assert that America is and must remain a “Christian nation”—not merely as an observation about American history, but as a prescriptive program for what America must continue to be in the future. Scholars like Samuel Huntington have made a similar argument: that America is defined by its “Anglo-Protestant” past and that we will lose our identity and our freedom if we do not preserve our cultural inheritance.

https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2021/february-web-only/what-is-christian-nationalism.html

Scholars, activists brief lawmakers on role of Christian nationalism at insurrection

Raskin opened the virtual briefing by noting that while a variety of ideologies were represented among insurrectionists, Christian nationalism “clearly figured highly in the events of the day,” and was “a unifying theme for many of the factions that assembled on January 6.”

His words were echoed by an array of panelists who presented findings from a recent report they helped author with backing from the Freedom from Religion Foundation and the Baptist Joint Committee for Religious Liberty. Among other things, the 66-page study documents in painstaking detail the prevalence of Christian nationalist symbols and rhetoric at the insurrection and a series of events that led up to the storming of the Capitol.

Amanda Tyler, head of the BJC, told lawmakers the report faced “defensive pushback” from some conservative Christians after it was unveiled last month but has been embraced by Christians who see opposing Christian nationalism as a religious call.



“Let’s be clear: Christianity does not and cannot unite Americans under a national identity,” Tyler said, adding that Christian nationalism “debases Christianity.”

https://religionnews.com/2022/03/18...ole-of-christian-nationalism-at-insurrection/
 
BidenPresident said:
“A worldview that claims God as a political partisan and dehumanizes one’s political opponents as evil is fundamentally antidemocratic.” He tells me, “A mind-set that believes that our nation was divinely ordained to be a promised land for Christians of European descent is incompatible with the U.S. Constitution’s guarantee of freedom of religion and equality of all.”

If one is convinced God wants only one side to govern, then democracy falls by the wayside. That’s not even the subtext of the Meadows and Thomas messages; it’s out in the open.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...ckson-hearings-reveal-politics-of-absolutism/
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Ok.
So a few idiots believe idiotic things.
Big fucking deal.
I could name some left wing organizations that contain some extremists whom I think are nutty and pathetic...like BLM.
 
BidenPresident said:
right.... the negroes....
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AD HOMINEM!!!

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Bye troll.
 
BidenPresident said:
“A worldview that claims God as a political partisan and dehumanizes one’s political opponents as evil is fundamentally antidemocratic.” He tells me, “A mind-set that believes that our nation was divinely ordained to be a promised land for Christians of European descent is incompatible with the U.S. Constitution’s guarantee of freedom of religion and equality of all.”

If one is convinced God wants only one side to govern, then democracy falls by the wayside. That’s not even the subtext of the Meadows and Thomas messages; it’s out in the open.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...ckson-hearings-reveal-politics-of-absolutism/
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WHAT A FUCKING MORON; "CHRISTIAN NATIONALISM" IS WHAT FOUNDED THIS NATION.
 
Christian nationalism is still thriving — and is a force for returning Trump to power

The Sunday service at the Patriot Church in Lenoir City, Tennessee starts out like a lot of evangelical worship: hands aloft, Bibles in laps, full-throated singing about Jesus.

When Rev. Ken Peters picks up his wireless mic, the service takes a sharp rightward turn.

"Don't let the mainstream media or the left tell you that we were not a Christian nation," he intones, prowling the altar in an anti-abortion T-shirt. "You know why there's churches everywhere and not mosques? Because we're a Christian nation!"

If anyone thought that Christian nationalism would decline with President Donald Trump out of power, they were mistaken. Christian nationalists believe, in general, that America is Christian, that the government should keep it that way, and that Trump was —and is— their best hope to accomplish that.

This movement of ultra-conservative, politicized churches is apparently on the march, though there are no firm numbers because the congregations are mostly nondenominational. The belief system provides a godly underpinning for right-wing activism in venues like school-board elections, anti-vaccine protests, and the Jan. 6 attack on the capitol.

https://www.npr.org/2022/01/14/1073215412/christian-nationalism-donald-trump
 
After feigning a desire to keep an open mind about Supreme Court nominee Ketanji Brown Jackson, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said he “cannot and will not” support her.

Meanwhile, Sen. Ben Sasse (R-Neb.) said he “sadly” can’t support her because she has not embraced the constraints of “originalism” in her judicial philosophy. That’s a laughable statement, given that the current right-wing justices on the court who supposedly embrace such views have rewritten Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act and roll their eyes at the restraints of stare decisis.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...ckson-hearings-reveal-politics-of-absolutism/
 
Grokmaster said:
WHAT A FUCKING MORON; "CHRISTIAN NATIONALISM" IS WHAT FOUNDED THIS NATION.
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What a low IQ christ stained goyim

America was not Founded As A Christian Nation


The most damning evidence of a non-Christian past is a humiliating 1797 treaty with the Barbary Pirates. President Adams sought to stem unremitting Muslim raids against Mediterranean shipping and protect American sailors from African slavery. This obscure treaty submitted, “The Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.”

https://www.forbes.com/sites/billfl...ounded-as-a-christian-nation/?sh=24fc1baf4e7b

Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law.
Thomas Jefferson

The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the Supreme Being as his father, in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter.
Thomas Jefferson

I have recently been examining all the known superstitions of the world and do not find in our particular superstition [Christianity] one redeeming feature.
Thomas Jefferson

The Faith of the Founding Fathers

https://www.masters.edu/news/the-faith-of-the-founding-fathers.html
 
Tranquillus in Exile said:
The fundamental problem is that Republicans have won a majority of the popular vote for president just ONCE in the past thirty years. It won't get much better, and they know it.

So obviously democracy isn't working. Gotta find something else.

They could try building a responsible, tolerant, moderate conservative party of a type found in many other advanced countries. But they'd have to start from scratch ...
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So obviously democracy isn't working. Gotta find something else.
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Democracy works just fine (unless you jackasses cheat). Your senators and house members don't go through an electoral college, do they? Hell, in california and new york I believe they're even letting illegal aliens vote. And without an electoral college, those two states and a few others would be picking the president every election.

The fundamental problem is that Republicans have won a majority of the popular vote for president just ONCE in the past thirty years. It won't get much better, and they know it.
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This is because most of that "majority of the popular vote" are dumbasses. And you're right, you guys won't get much smarter.

They could try building a responsible, tolerant, moderate conservative party of a type found in many other advanced countries
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Fuck that. We fled those "other advanced countries" 2 1/2 centuries ago because they were fucked up, and people are STILL trying to get in here.
 
BidenPresident said:
“A worldview that claims God as a political partisan and dehumanizes one’s political opponents as evil is fundamentally antidemocratic.” He tells me, “A mind-set that believes that our nation was divinely ordained to be a promised land for Christians of European descent is incompatible with the U.S. Constitution’s guarantee of freedom of religion and equality of all.”

If one is convinced God wants only one side to govern, then democracy falls by the wayside. That’s not even the subtext of the Meadows and Thomas messages; it’s out in the open.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...ckson-hearings-reveal-politics-of-absolutism/
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How many modern (19th Century to the present let's say) nations have been destroyed, dehumanized, or rendered antidemocratic by Christianity and Christian religious practices? How many have been destroyed, dehumanized, or rendered antidemocratic by Marxism, Secularism, Socialism, and Leftist politics?

How many nations in that time have elected Christian theocracies to rule them? How many nations have had secular, totalitarian governments take them over?

The op ed writer is either an idiot, liar, and / or oblivious to history and reality.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
How many modern (19th Century to the present let's say) nations have been destroyed, dehumanized, or rendered antidemocratic by Christianity and Christian religious practices? How many have been destroyed, dehumanized, or rendered antidemocratic by Marxism, Secularism, Socialism, and Leftist politics?

How many nations in that time have elected Christian theocracies to rule them? How many nations have had secular, totalitarian governments take them over?

The op ed writer is either an idiot, liar, and / or oblivious to history and reality.
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Take a look at the Middle East and Africa. :dunno:
 
AProudLefty said:
Take a look at the Middle East and Africa. :dunno:
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Muslims aren't Christians. Look at the article cited and the OP. This is about Christian nationalism, not religious nationalism in general. So, Islam, Hinduism, etc., don't count towards the argument as presented in the OP.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Muslims aren't Christians. Look at the article cited and the OP. This is about Christian nationalism, not religious nationalism in general. So, Islam, Hinduism, etc., don't count towards the argument as presented in the OP.
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Islam and Christianity are branches of the same major religion. BTW there are Christian nations in Africa that have been destroying people's lives. Even Pat Robertson and others supported and donated to them.
 
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