Cheerios Ad with Biracial Family

[cawacko]

You can find interview after interview with troubled kids that say they didn't grow up with a father and they have no male role models in their life. Now is growing up in a two parent household with a father a guarantee that a kid will turn out well? No it isn't. Is growing up in a single parent home with only a mother a guarantee a kid is going to be in trouble and not find success in his life? No it isn't. But the evidence around us is overwhelming that a kid has a better chance for success in life with a father in the home.

 

[tekkychick]

Now if you REALLY don't want to help single poor minority OR white mothers (the rich ones probably don't need much help), how about insisting women get paid the same as men? And provide free contraception and abortions for FREE! Lot's of money to be saved there. And provide a lot better sex education than many places do now! And free day-care so single mothers could get jobs. That is assuming there were sufficient jobs for them to find, and THAT'S an entire other story. - OH, but wait, I just realized...

Maybe you don't really want them working. You want them to stay home and raise your brood of children

What's ironic is that - welfare to work programs: we will pay women who have small children to provide day care for other women, but not for their own kids.

So what happens? Mother A provides day care to Mother B. Mother B provides it to Mother A. That way, they can both meet the welfare to work requirements and still make sure their kids are taken care of.

And poor women? we tell them they have to go work, but we don't provide day care.

Rich women? we tell them they should stay home with their kids, not be so selfish as to go work.

Total mixed messages; once again the patriarchy is determined to make women feel bad no matter what we do.

 

[Howey]

You can find interview after interview with troubled kids that say they didn't grow up with a father and they have no male role models in their life. Now is growing up in a two parent household with a father a guarantee that a kid will turn out well? No it isn't. Is growing up in a single parent home with only a mother a guarantee a kid is going to be in trouble and not find success in his life? No it isn't. But the evidence around us is overwhelming that a kid has a better chance for success in life with a father in the home.

And there are thousands where everything went fine. Raising a child successfully doesn't need to take two parents, as long as the love is there.

I'd suspect there's just as many or more troubled children out there with two parents.

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

Say what? That's a pretty condescending and harsh assessment of black women that borders in the "soft racism" that I described earlier. That's a rediculous notion. There are just as high a percentage of hot black women as white. Get real!

No there isn't. Waaaaayyyyyy higher percentage of hot black women.

 

[canceled.2021.1]

Really? You say this shit, and have the nerve to point fingers and claim racism of others???? You're the one who should be thankful for slavery...no doubt, you'd not be where you are today, if not for some black people.

Slavery has had no impact on my life other than being the "original sin" of the United States for which a permanent grievance industry has sprung which seeks to keep blacks perpetual victims and certain whites in perpetual shame.

Compare the life of an average black person in America to an average black person in Africa? You should be on bended knee thankful that you are here. That your not speaks more to your ignorance and bitterness than anything else

 

[canceled.2021.1]

Propaganda. Seems that men, in general, regardless of race, fail to own up to their personal responsibilities as fathers and breadwinners. And then you want to make it out to be about race. Bitch, please. We know you're a racist. We're just tired of you proving it, post after post.

So you answer then. Yes, the rate of illigitimacy is rising in all demographics, but it is at staggering levels in the black community. What is it about black men that causes them to not own up to their personal responsibilities? Are you going to make excuses for them too? Not enough gubmint jobs for them?

The point is clear. Despite the horrors that the democrat party committed on blacks in the early 1900s through the 1960s the black family managed to stay intact. In fact they had higher rates of nuclear families (mom and dad for you unwashed) than even whites. So what changed in the 1960s? Did Civil Rights legislation do it? Did that make the black family split up? Did the GOP start a campaign telling black men to abandon their families? Or could it have been LBJ and his "Great Society" which created a welfare system that made it economically advantageous to NOT have a man at home?

Look, those of us who think for a living get what is at play. Single women overwhelmingly vote for democrats. Why? Because they are more likely to be dependent on gobblement. Do you think that the power hungry dems are going to anything to reduce single motherhood? Not a fucking chance. They want to increase it despite the horrors that it has wrought on your people and our society at large. That you don't care about the tragedy that has befallen your people post LBJ is a sad commentary on your intelligence and ability to look at facts in an objective manner.

It serves to prove to me that the propagandists have done their job and done it well. Unfortunately, for your people and the country.

 

[canceled.2021.1]

Is single motherhood and feminism a problem? I'm not so sure of that. I think single motherhood is far from the worst outcome. And in spite of the stereotypes the right like to believe in, it is pretty common for all races today, and becoming more so. Although, probably more likely when people are poor. If more minorities are poor I'm thinking that is more likely the cause than what race they are.

I was reading about marriages in the middle ages and happened across this...

[FONT=&]Most of the time, the couples hardly knew each other. .(Most marriages were "arraigned"). Once married the husband was completely in charge. Wives were their property, literally. Men were allowed to beat their wife as long as she did not die. They also were the only ones to ask for a divorce. If you were a women married to an abusive horrible man that you could not stand, there was nothing you could do about it. However if you were a man you could get divorce in a blink of an eye.[/FONT]

But I am sure those complaining about single mothers today would be good with that. After all, there was no government assistance and men were the breadwinners. No moral and cultural decay THERE. (A little sarcasm in case you missed it.)

Now if you REALLY don't want to help single poor minority OR white mothers (the rich ones probably don't need much help), how about insisting women get paid the same as men? And provide free contraception and abortions for FREE! Lot's of money to be saved there. And provide a lot better sex education than many places do now! And free day-care so single mothers could get jobs. That is assuming there were sufficient jobs for them to find, and THAT'S an entire other story. - OH, but wait, I just realized...

Maybe you don't really want them working. You want them to stay home and raise your brood of children while you yuk it up down at the local pub and then demand dinner be on the table when you get home? Perhaps you want women to stay in the bedroom and kitchen where they belong? (More sarcasm...) Maybe you want it exactly like it was "in the old days." (How old are you? - rhetorical question) I'd say if you can find some breadwinner to take you in and treat you that way, you are welcome to it. But, stop trying to sell other people on the idea it's a good thing.

And if you want to find someone to blame, how about you start with the fathers?

After reading your first line, it is clear that you are an uniformed partisan. The rest of your bilge requires no reply.

According to the Index of Leading Cultural Indicators, children from single parent families account for 64% of all youth suicides, 70% of all teenage pregnancies, 71% of all adolescent chemical/substance abuse, 80% of all prison inmates and 90% of all homeless and runaway children.


A study for the Village Voice (that right wing rag) found that children brought up in single mother homes are five times more likely to commit suicide, nine times more likely to drop out of high school, 10 times more likely to abuse drugs, 14 times more likely to commit rape (for the males), 20 times more likely to end up in prison, and 32 times more likely to run away from home.

As far as your bullshit middle ages meme, lets use more recent data shall we? According to the US Justice Department from 1993 to 2005 the number of married women victimized by their husbands ranged from 0.9 to 3.2 per 1000. Domestic violence was about 40 times more likely among divorced or separated women ranging from 37.7 to 118.5 per 1000

Now that your entire post has blown up in your face this is where you scream "RACIST" and run off with your smug little look on your face.

 

[canceled.2021.1]

What's ironic is that - welfare to work programs: we will pay women who have small children to provide day care for other women, but not for their own kids.

So what happens? Mother A provides day care to Mother B. Mother B provides it to Mother A. That way, they can both meet the welfare to work requirements and still make sure their kids are taken care of.

And poor women? we tell them they have to go work, but we don't provide day care.

Rich women? we tell them they should stay home with their kids, not be so selfish as to go work.

Total mixed messages; once again the patriarchy is determined to make women feel bad no matter what we do.

Who is this "we" that is telling them these things? You? Are you having that conversation? I am saying that they shouldn't have kids without first being married. It is the surest way to keep themselves out of poverty and not sentencing their kids to a life of misery. Imagine if Trayvon Martin's parents were still together? Maybe he wouldn't have been out hunting down a "blunt" and casing houses and might be alive today.

No, it is your liberal policies that has inflicted this pain and suffering on the black people and you call it compassion.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

So what happens? Mother A provides day care to Mother B. Mother B provides it to Mother A. That way, they can both meet the welfare to work requirements and still make sure their kids are taken care of.

or the more intelligent among them take care of the kids of Mothers B,C, and D so the others can get a job and pay her enough that she can take care of her own kids as well and not have to receive assistance......

 

[canceled.2021.1]

or the more intelligent among them take care of the kids of Mothers B,C, and D so the others can get a job and pay her enough that she can take care of her own kids as well and not have to receive assistance......

Tekkychick is rivaling Desh for stupidity

 

[cawacko]

And there are thousands where everything went fine. Raising a child successfully doesn't need to take two parents, as long as the love is there.

I'd suspect there's just as many or more troubled children out there with two parents.

I already acknowledged in that in my statement. But the poverty numbers clearly bear out the majority come from single family homes. I'm not making some kind of political statement here. I'm not making an anti-woman or anti-feminist statement to say young children, especially males, benefit from having a father/father figure in their life. It's reality born out across this country.

 

[blackascoal]

Please. Whatever gave you the notion that a racist changes his stripes?

You may indeed have a point.

 

[blackascoal]

Who is this "we" that is telling them these things? You? Are you having that conversation? I am saying that they shouldn't have kids without first being married. It is the surest way to keep themselves out of poverty and not sentencing their kids to a life of misery. Imagine if Trayvon Martin's parents were still together? Maybe he wouldn't have been out hunting down a "blunt" and casing houses and might be alive today.

No, it is your liberal policies that has inflicted this pain and suffering on the black people and you call it compassion.

What makes you such an authority on black people that you claim to know more about us then we do?

And more importantly, why do you spend so much time talking about black people?

Not a single poster here is talking about the ills of white people in this thread. Nobody is talking about the failures of white people.

Yet you seem to relish in any opportunity to denigrate black people that you know nothing about .. even using derogatory terms.

Why is that?

Why is that when we have absolutely nothing to do with your life?

 

[cawacko]

And for those speaking to fathers needing to be there instead of running out on their kids here's an old school jam from ED OG and Da Bulldogs which agrees with you.

 

[poet]

Slavery has had no impact on my life other than being the "original sin" of the United States for which a permanent grievance industry has sprung which seeks to keep blacks perpetual victims and certain whites in perpetual shame.

Compare the life of an average black person in America to an average black person in Africa? You should be on bended knee thankful that you are here. That your not speaks more to your ignorance and bitterness than anything else

Oh, you're a low, evil bitch, you are. How outrageous. To rationalize slavery as a means for blacks to become "permanent victims", in which they can wallow in pity, for the wrong done to them, and for whites to absolve themselves of any responsibility. Outrageous. Insult to injury, of the first order.
I will not compare any average black person's life in America to an imagined average black person in Africa. To let you off the proverbial "hook"? Bitch ( and I say that in the worst possible way), you don't know me. You can't speculate on what my life might have been if my ancestors hadn't been stolen from their land. Your ancestors didn't have the right or any vestige of morality to do what they did. And since you applied an appropriate metaphor, "original sin", you know that it is a sin, one is born "into", and must be remedied with Baptism, with "water" or "fire", none of which, America (and by that I mean "white America") has surrendered to. So, you, "collectively", are "damned", until you are baptized, at which you "balk".

I am thankful I am here...but not for the reasons you imagine. I'm here, because a Higher Power deemed I should be here, as that same Higher Power deemed you should be here. Not beholden to some mythical figure of a white man, who stole my people, with the intent of giving them a "better life". What was given was a "special kind of Hell", which you, apparently, are not ashamed of. And when you speak of ignorance and bitterness, you must be looking in the mirror in your bathroom, as it is looking back at you.

 

[poet]

So you answer then. Yes, the rate of illigitimacy is rising in all demographics, but it is at staggering levels in the black community. What is it about black men that causes them to not own up to their personal responsibilities? Are you going to make excuses for them too? Not enough gubmint jobs for them?

The point is clear. Despite the horrors that the democrat party committed on blacks in the early 1900s through the 1960s the black family managed to stay intact. In fact they had higher rates of nuclear families (mom and dad for you unwashed) than even whites. So what changed in the 1960s? Did Civil Rights legislation do it? Did that make the black family split up? Did the GOP start a campaign telling black men to abandon their families? Or could it have been LBJ and his "Great Society" which created a welfare system that made it economically advantageous to NOT have a man at home?

Look, those of us who think for a living get what is at play. Single women overwhelmingly vote for democrats. Why? Because they are more likely to be dependent on gobblement. Do you think that the power hungry dems are going to anything to reduce single motherhood? Not a fucking chance. They want to increase it despite the horrors that it has wrought on your people and our society at large. That you don't care about the tragedy that has befallen your people post LBJ is a sad commentary on your intelligence and ability to look at facts in an objective manner.

It serves to prove to me that the propagandists have done their job and done it well. Unfortunately, for your people and the country.

What is it about white men that makes them shoot up theaters, college campuses, elementary schools, high schools, marathons, blow up federal buildings, engage in cannibalism, employ philosophies and religions that make their followers commit mass suicide??????

Do not lecture me on the black family, as I came from one. You don't care about blacks or any other minorities. So stop pretending that you do. You racist piece of filth.

 

[canceled.2021.1]

What makes you such an authority on black people that you claim to know more about us then we do?

I never claimed to be an authority. Nothing in my posts indicate that. Read into them what you will. I can however look at the statistics. They are accurate. You have not refuted them. You have not offered an explanation. I merely asked a simple question which is why is the rate of illegitimacy in the black community higher today than it was in the early 1900s when life for blacks from a race perspective was arguably much worse. Those are undeniable facts. They may be inconvenient facts, but they are facts none the less.

And more importantly, why do you spend so much time talking about black people?

The thread is talking about race, this is where the conversation headed.

Not a single poster here is talking about the ills of white people in this thread. Nobody is talking about the failures of white people.

I have talked about the ills of "white people". I have talked about the ills of single mother households crossing racial barriers. Don't pretend I haven't.

Yet you seem to relish in any opportunity to denigrate black people that you know nothing about .. even using derogatory terms.

If you think that bringing up the statistics as they are is "denigrating" black people then so be it. They are facts. I have not offered any racial reason for the problems, in fact what I have blamed is the government for creating a dependency that is wrought destruction on black people. Maybe you are more offended by the failures of the socialist policies than you are about the destruction they have created. Never once have I said that illegitimacy was some defect of the black people. What I have done is question those who deny my claims what the reason is. They can try to blame racism, but that doesn't explain a lower rate of single parent black homes during a time of much greater racial strife for blacks than today. You see there is an accepted "conventional wisdom" about race that many just blindly accept. I poke holes in that conventional wisdom using logic and facts. Because it makes so many uncomfortable and thinking about those issues critically would force some to reassess their own belief system, it is easier to call me a racist.

Why is that?

Why is that when we have absolutely nothing to do with your life?

It would be very easy for me to ignore the plight of the black community, but unfortunately I am a compassionate person. Ironically if I were the racist everyone proclaimed, I would rejoice at the fact that 1800 black babies are aborted a day. I am saddened by that number. It is heartbreaking. Now the lefties proclaim that abortion on this magnitude "reduces crime". We live in a world where up is down and down is up. To proclaim that murdering black babies is a crime prevention measure to me is racist and borderline genocidal. If I were the racist some proclaim, I would rejoice at the abject poverty and squalor that many in the black community have come to accept. I don't rejoice in it. I find it heartbreaking.

If not wanting to kill 1800 black babies a day at Planned Parenthood makes me a racist, fine I can live with it

If not wanting to see the black community suffer needlessly at the hands of government dependence makes me a racist, then so be it

 

[canceled.2021.1]

Oh, you're a low, evil bitch, you are. How outrageous. To rationalize slavery as a means for blacks to become "permanent victims", in which they can wallow in pity, for the wrong done to them, and for whites to absolve themselves of any responsibility. Outrageous. Insult to injury, of the first order.
I will not compare any average black person's life in America to an imagined average black person in Africa. To let you off the proverbial "hook"? Bitch ( and I say that in the worst possible way), you don't know me. You can't speculate on what my life might have been if my ancestors hadn't been stolen from their land. Your ancestors didn't have the right or any vestige of morality to do what they did. And since you applied an appropriate metaphor, "original sin", you know that it is a sin, one is born "into", and must be remedied with Baptism, with "water" or "fire", none of which, America (and by that I mean "white America") has surrendered to. So, you, "collectively", are "damned", until you are baptized, at which you "balk".

I am thankful I am here...but not for the reasons you imagine. I'm here, because a Higher Power deemed I should be here, as that same Higher Power deemed you should be here. Not beholden to some mythical figure of a white man, who stole my people, with the intent of giving them a "better life". What was given was a "special kind of Hell", which you, apparently, are not ashamed of. And when you speak of ignorance and bitterness, you must be looking in the mirror in your bathroom, as it is looking back at you.

So what you are saying is that a higher power deemed that your ancestors be "stolen" from their land so that you could be here? Seems like you are basically articulating what I just said.

BTW, my ancestors had nothing to do with slavery in the United States. My ancestors immigrated here in the 1920s. Why should I feel guilty about a practice that I had nothing to do with? I mean like Benghazi, slavery happened "a long time ago" right?

You can feign offense if you like, but it doesn't change the facts.

 

[canceled.2021.1]

What is it about white men that makes them shoot up theaters, college campuses, elementary schools, high schools, marathons, blow up federal buildings, engage in cannibalism, employ philosophies and religions that make their followers commit mass suicide??????

Do not lecture me on the black family, as I came from one. You don't care about blacks or any other minorities. So stop pretending that you do. You racist piece of filth.

It is a very interesting and fair question. It would seem that statistically white men are more prone to these various acts. Although it was muslims who blew up the marathon. As for cannibalism, there are many cultures that engage in that practice including "those of color"

As for serial killers, yes they seem to be white. Why that is, I cannot answer. But, it is a fair question to ask. I guess one of the stark difference between white and black huh?

The difference between you and me puddin pop is I don't get all uppity about those differences being pointed out and rant on and on about you being a racist. I merely acknowledge the facts. Something you obviously are incapable of.

 

[tekkychick]

Compare the life of an average black person in America to an average black person in Africa? You should be on bended knee thankful that you are here. That your not speaks more to your ignorance and bitterness than anything else

And here I thought conservatives understood this - it is always better to be free than a slave, even if one is a relatively pampered slave. And most of the slaves in the US were far from relatively pampered. Beaten, abused, sold to others, families split apart, raped.

Wow. what a stupid thing to say.