CDC Warns Of ‘Impending Doom’ Of COVID Surges And Deaths.

[PoliTalker]

Hello cawacko,

PBS isn't doing itself, or anyone else, any favors by doing that. We are clearly not out of the woods regarding COVID, but headlines like this turn people off and do not help the cause.

I have a different take on it.

I think it was very responsible reporting. Don't judge a book by it's cover, and don't judge a story by it's headline. The job of the headline is to get your attention and motivate you to pay attention to the story that follows it.

Almost nobody is going to simply look at that headline and not listen to or read the entire piece. The only people who might do that are right here on this discussion board. The public sees a story like that and either blocks it out of their mind because they want to ignore the whole pandemic (unlikely for PBS viewers,) or they listen to the whole thing and it causes them to have better understanding about how serious the situation is.

Actually, that headline was not said on the air that way. The thread title was written by me as a shortened version of the website title which read:

"The CDC is warning of an ‘impending doom’ of COVID surges, deaths. Is it warranted?"

I condensed that to read:

"CDC Warns Of ‘Impending Doom’ Of COVID Surges And Deaths."

I did that to make it a better fit in a JPP title block.

Judy Woodruff began the on-air piece by saying:

"The president urged state and local officials today to keep or reinstate mask mandates, as he and his team delivered some of the most urgent warnings yet about new COVID surges."

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello Big Money Dolla,

They are going up?

hmmm.... This is all media agitation and scare tactics for as CNN admitted, ratings.

Yes, they are going up. Look at the last part of that graph closely. Definitely going up. Stopped falling. Now rising.

Also note where it bottomed out. That level is higher than the low point last summer. We never even got that low, it ceased falling and began to rise. That's the problem.

And if that is not alarming enough, look at the graph of New Cases for the world:



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[Underdog]

Hello Big Money Dolla,



Yes, they are going up. Look at the last part of that graph closely. Definitely going up. Stopped falling. Now rising.

Also note where it bottomed out. That level is higher than the low point last summer. We never even got that low, it ceased falling and began to rise. That's the problem.

The rise is not significant enough for the hysterical article. the rise isn't even notable yet. to me the truth seems to be "it's leveled out".

 

[LV426]

The rise is not significant enough for the hysterical article.

LMAO @ this stupid shit.

So BMD thinks he's got an argument and he uses data that shows COVID cases are starting to rise again, as he tries to argue they aren't.

This is the lying that we're talking about, my dude.

THIS is what we are referring to when we say how you can't control your lying habit.

So if cases keep rising, which by all accounts they will, what does that do for your argument?

to me the truth seems to be "it's leveled out".

But it hasn't! Your own data shows it hasn't. Your own data shows it's increasing. And it shows that it's worse than it was back during the summer.

What do you think you're proving here?

 

[evince]

God you're stupid.

God maynot like you calling him stupid assclown

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello Big Money Dolla,

The rise is not significant enough for the hysterical article. the rise isn't even notable yet. to me the truth seems to be "it's leveled out".

Israel is requiring people to show proof of vaccine to go to restaurants and bars.

Israel has a higher rate of vaccination cooperation than the USA.

And the results show that has been successful.

Israel has a much better looking graph of New Cases, the kind of graph we would like to see

Look at their graph of Active Cases:



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Now here is the graph of Active Cases in the USA, where we don't have as many people choosing to get the vaccine:

Active Cases in the USA:



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A picture tells the story.

We are not where we need to be to open up. We need more people doing the right things like getting the vaccine, distancing and mask-wearing.

 

[PoliTalker]

Daily New Cases rising in the USA:



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[Underdog]

Hello Big Money Dolla,



Israel is requiring people to show proof of vaccine to go to restaurants and bars.

Israel has a higher rate of vaccination cooperation than the USA.

And the results show that has been successful.

Israel has a much better looking graph of New Cases, the kind of graph we would like to see

Look at their graph of Active Cases:

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Now here is the graph of Active Cases in the USA, where we don't have as many people choosing to get the vaccine:

Active Cases in the USA:

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(Click to enlarge)

A picture tells the story.

We are not where we need to be to open up. We need more people doing the right things like getting the vaccine, distancing and mask-wearing.

Whats the population of isreal vs the US?


Did isreal change the pcr cycles like the Us did?


there are so many factors, smaller populations have stiffer peaks and and dips, think trying to wheelie a 20" bike vs a 29" bike, which is going to flip you on you back faster. not a valid comparison my friend.

 

[Grumpy]

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CDC Warns Of ‘Impending Doom’ Of COVID Surges And Deaths.

Yet more of the perpetual "THE SKY IS FALLING, THE SKY IS FALLING"

 

[Underdog]

Daily New Cases rising in the USA:

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look at the positivity rate table

https://www.mayoclinic.org/coronavi...iEH5k2ScknNGqVzaIARhGnR_F5HvTPmEaAj0DEALw_wcB



we are testing more. so we see a slight uptick and your graph has it going down at the very end. our positivity rate has been hovering around 7% it's not changing significantly.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello again my friend Big Money Dolla,

Whats the population of isreal vs the US?


Did isreal change the pcr cycles like the Us did?


there are so many factors, smaller populations have stiffer peaks and and dips, think trying to wheelie a 20" bike vs a 29" bike, which is going to flip you on you back faster. not a valid comparison my friend.

A valiant effort, but my previous post was so overwhelmingly convincing there was no way to really come back with any kind of reply that in any way refuted those pictures.

Anti-social people in the US who refuse to go along with what society needs are making the problem far worse than it has to be here.

You should have picked up on the fact that Israel officially sanctions those who have recently had COVID-19, and test high enough for anti-bodies to skip getting the vaccine.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello Big Money Dolla,

look at the positivity rate table

https://www.mayoclinic.org/coronavi...iEH5k2ScknNGqVzaIARhGnR_F5HvTPmEaAj0DEALw_wcB



we are testing more. so we see a slight uptick and your graph has it going down at the very end. our positivity rate has been hovering around 7% it's not changing significantly.

If we were turning the tide, the positivity rate would drop, even with more testing.

The Daily New Cases graph normally fluctuates in a weekly cycle. The dip at the end is the result of fewer weekend reports. Pay closer attention to the weekly trend than daily. The weekly trend is up.

 

[dukkha]

numbers of cases is meaningless -look at hospitalizations and deaths

 

[Underdog]

Hello again my friend Big Money Dolla,



A valiant effort, but my previous post was so overwhelmingly convincing there was no way to really come back with any kind of reply that in any way refuted those pictures.

Anti-social people in the US who refuse to go along with what society needs are making the problem far worse than it has to be here.

You should have picked up on the fact that Israel officially sanctions those who have recently had COVID-19, and test high enough for anti-bodies to skip getting the vaccine.

point of order, I have the antibodies, I don't need the vaccine at this point, should the US officially "sanction" me? seems the "Science" lefty crowd here thinks I am a walking murderer if I don't.


anyway I digress, I disagree, you cannot take a small population and compare it to a large population like you are. Isreal is essentially a police state, we are not. I have shown the infection rate is stable at 6-7% and every time it dips to 6% the media is silent, when it slightly upticks to 7% we get these shitty media agitation articles "impending doom", and we all know cnn has been caught stating they ramp up the doom for ratings.


I think we are seeing a steady infection rate due to kids back in school, guess what, that's not a bad thing, as now all these kids have better antibodies than the shots.


if you wanted to eradicate the virus using police state tactics, mandatory in your home lockdown at gun point, otherwise, we gotta do what we are doing but could do without the media agitating.


you realize we have had this discussion for a couple weeks now, note the infection rate hasn't moved from the 6-7% rate it is now, right?

 

[Underdog]

Hello Big Money Dolla,



If we were turning the tide, the positivity rate would drop, even with more testing.

The Daily New Cases graph normally fluctuates in a weekly cycle. The dip at the end is the result of fewer weekend reports. Pay closer attention to the weekly trend than daily. The weekly trend is up.

it has dropped. it's stable at 6-7%


https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#trends_dailytrendscases


same rate as februrary, yes it diped and came back up, but the trend is dipping again. if we hit 10%, then we can agree that it's going up, but fluctuating betweem 6-7% Im not gonna get worked up over ever time a 1% change occurs no matter how much the media wants me to.

 

[LV426]

numbers of cases is meaningless -look at hospitalizations and deaths

No.

 

[LV426]

point of order, I have the antibodies

No you don't.

You got COVID in March 2020.

COVID antibodies last, at most, 8 months.

Which would mean your antibodies disappeared 5 months ago.

You're probably going to be one of the few morons who caught COVID twice.

 

[LV426]

it has dropped. it's stable at 6-7%

That chart shows a slight increase at the very end.

 

[LV426]

same rate as februrary, yes it diped and came back up, but the trend is dipping again. if we hit 10%, then we can agree that it's going up, but fluctuating betweem 6-7% Im not gonna get worked up over ever time a 1% change occurs no matter how much the media wants me to.

What a fucking idiot.

 

[dukkha]

No.