Cars Without Borders: Does “Made in America” Really Matter Anymore?

Yup, long standing definitions of words sure don't hold up in your world apparently. This isn't the first time, and I'm certain its far from the last, where you just make things up when you have no other course of argument.

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BTW, the polar opposite of authoritarian would be anarchist. WAY too many 'libertarians' are authoritarian in America, the chart is flawed.
 
That's an unfounded opinion. If they showed such competent mgmt then how comes they consistantly keep going back to their governments to subsidize their industry and business? I'm reasonably sure that wasn't the case when they were asking their governments for hand outs and what about when the Japanese purposefully devalue the Yen so that they can undercut pricing in the American market which would be illegal here due to the Sherman Antitrust act? The Chinese do the same, under value their currency so that they can under cut domestic pricing in the USA and thus export more. It's illegal as hell for a business to do that here domestically but what can we do about a foreign nation who is in collusion with their own government to manipulate their currency to their advantage for just such a purpose? The Sherman Antitrust act does not apply if they are not manufacturing those items here and that's exactly what they did when the bottom fell out of the SUV/Light Truck market. Japan's big auto makers, as soon as they started losing major sales, had their government devalue the Yen so they could export cars to the US at lower cost, so don't try to sell me on their "Superior Management.". They screwed the pooch in the US just like GM did and went running to their government as fast as they could when they started losing money. The main difference is the speed in which the Japanese government began subsidizing their automakers an advantage GM certainly didn't have.

Do you honestly believe the US government doesn't manipulate our currency in the exact same manner? You think it is simply coincidence that the dollar is getting hammered right now at a time when our idiots in DC are trying desperately to prop up the economy? Dollar dropping means it is cheaper for other countries to buy US goods and more expensive for us to buy foreign.... The single biggest manipulator of currency is the US government. We have no right to bitch about others when they play the same game. The difference is that we can do it without the immediate inflationary effects due to our status as the reserve currency.
 
Do you honestly believe the US government doesn't manipulate our currency in the exact same manner? You think it is simply coincidence that the dollar is getting hammered right now at a time when our idiots in DC are trying desperately to prop up the economy? Dollar dropping means it is cheaper for other countries to buy US goods and more expensive for us to buy foreign.... The single biggest manipulator of currency is the US government. We have no right to bitch about others when they play the same game. The difference is that we can do it without the immediate inflationary effects due to our status as the reserve currency.


So you agree its not by superior management then, and all depends on government trade and currency policy.

All we need to save america is massive protectionism.
 
So you agree its not by superior management then, and all depends on government trade and currency policy.

All we need to save america is massive protectionism.

No, I am saying countries all try to manipulate their currency. We are by far the biggest manipulator. So their management is/was superior to that at GM/Chrysler and to a lesser extent at Ford. The US has been better when it comes to the quality of its trucks (especially Ford's F series), but when it comes to overall management, Japan looks to the long term whereas the US companies tend to look toward the next quarter. We are very short sighted by comparison.

As for mass protectionism, that is the single most ignorant thing we could do. Look up Smoot Hawley and the negative effect it had during the Great Depression. If you want to destroy our economy, by all means start increasing the protectionism bullshit. Personally anyone for such policies should do us all a favor and play Russian roulette until they find that bullet.
 
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The website does not explain its scoring system in detail and some writers have criticized its validity while others have treated it more as a form of entertainment than a rigorous analysis.
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BTW, the polar opposite of authoritarian would be anarchist. WAY too many 'libertarians' are authoritarian in America, the chart is flawed.
And yet these 'some writers' are mysteriously absent from being listed.
 
No, I am saying countries all try to manipulate their currency. We are by far the biggest manipulator. So their management is/was superior to that at GM/Chrysler and to a lesser extent at Ford. The US has been better when it comes to the quality of its trucks (especially Ford's F series), but when it comes to overall management, Japan looks to the long term whereas the US companies tend to look toward the next quarter. We are very short sighted by comparison.

As for mass protectionism, that is the single most ignorant thing we could do. Look up Smoot Hawley and the negative effect it had during the Great Depression. If you want to destroy our economy, by all means start increasing the protectionism bullshit. Personally anyone for such policies should do us all a favor and play Russian roulette until they find that bullet.

No, massive protectionism is what could save america from the economic devastation of the globalisits and their sabbatean eugenics-based new world order religion. You are mistaken.
 
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No, massive protectionism is what could save america from the economic devastation of the globalisits and their sabbatean eugenics-based new world order religion. You are mistaken.
Sp preventing most of the world from buying our products is good how? And making goods we need from other countries (like copper for example) ridiculously priced is also good how?
 
Sp preventing most of the world from buying our products is good how? And making goods we need from other countries (like copper for example) ridiculously priced is also good how?

They can still buy our products if they want. Im talking about restring imports, not exports. Doy.
 
They can still buy our products if they want. Im talking about restring imports, not exports. Doy.

If we include tarriffs or barriers to entry on THEIR products, they will do the same to OUR products. It will hurt US companies and US consumers. It will also cost us jobs. What you are proposing has already been tried. It failed miserably and led to poor economic conditions for every major industrialized country. Not one who participated in protectionism succeeded in creating jobs or improved economies. It did just the opposite and prolonged the Great Depression.
 
They probably wouldnt. But it wouldnt matter anyway. Sadly, merely manufacturing for our own use would mean an increase in manufacturing. Our trade imbalance is that out of whack.

LMAO.... 'they probably wouldn't'???? Are you kidding? You honestly think that we could tax their goods and services without any retaliation?
 
LMAO.... 'they probably wouldn't'???? Are you kidding? You honestly think that we could tax their goods and services without any retaliation?


But you missed the most important part of my answer. It wouldnt matter. Sadly, merely manufacturing for our own needs would mean an increase in manufacturing.
 
But you missed the most important part of my answer. It wouldnt matter. Sadly, merely manufacturing for our own needs would mean an increase in manufacturing.

Again, you are 100% wrong. Again, I point you to the Smoot Hawley Act and the direct results of trying EXACTLY what you are suggesting. IT DOES NOT WORK. It doesn't increase jobs, it doesn't increase economic activity, the only thing it does increase is COSTS to the consumer.
 
It'd also mean an increase in the need for raw materials which we don't have.

We could import just the raw materials, and keep the all the "value add" profit for ourselves. We have most stuff anyway. The problems you see are imagined, a result of your globalist indoctrination and hatred for working america.
 
We could import just the raw materials, and keep the all the "value add" profit for ourselves. We have most stuff anyway. The problems you see are imagined, a result of your globalist indoctrination and hatred for working america.
Yeah, we could import it at a significantly higher cost to us. Thus raising the cost of finished goods.
 
Again, you are 100% wrong. Again, I point you to the Smoot Hawley Act and the direct results of trying EXACTLY what you are suggesting. IT DOES NOT WORK. It doesn't increase jobs, it doesn't increase economic activity, the only thing it does increase is COSTS to the consumer.

You are 100% wrong. I refer you to our current trade imbalance, which makes all past metaphors inapplicable. The new JOBS created would allow people to pay the higher prices. Let's keep our money in america, ok, shirley? Thanks for playing.
 
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