Cars Without Borders: Does “Made in America” Really Matter Anymore?

AssHatZombie said:
You are 100% wrong. I refer you to our current trade imbalance, which makes all past metaphors inapplicable. The new JOBS created would allow people to pay the higher prices. Let's keep our money in america, ok, shirley? Thanks for playing.
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O_o are you serious? You think that the new manufacturing would some how pay for the products being made? How? The rise in raw material costs alone would rise price of finished goods, which means wages would have to be raised to match that. Which means companies would need to raise prices in order for them to recoup their investment capital, and also make a profit.
 
King of Guns said:
O_o are you serious? You think that the new manufacturing would some how pay for the products being made? How? The rise in raw material costs alone would rise price of finished goods, which means wages would have to be raised to match that. Which means companies would need to raise prices in order for them to recoup their investment capital, and also make a profit.
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We have to sufficiently capitalize the manufacturing businesses here, giving them enough money to hire americans to produce the products and to buy them. Welcome to capitalism.
 
AssHatZombie said:
We have to sufficiently capitalize the manufacturing businesses here, giving them enough money to hire americans to produce the products and to buy them. Welcome to capitalism.
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Asshat, if a company has to pay it's employees enough to be able to afford its own products, it cannot make a profit. It will fail. Where is this magic profit going to come from? Where are the foreign materials (copper, aluminum, chromium, titanium, molybdenum, etc) going to come from at a rate that allows affordable products? Several of those materials I've listed are pretty critical to all forms of industry and manufacturing and aren't produced in America even slightly.
 
King of Guns said:
Asshat, if a company has to pay it's employees enough to be able to afford its own products, it cannot make a profit. It will fail. Where is this magic profit going to come from? Where are the foreign materials (copper, aluminum, chromium, titanium, molybdenum, etc) going to come from at a rate that allows affordable products? Several of those materials I've listed are pretty critical to all forms of industry and manufacturing and aren't produced in America even slightly.
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Profit? Haven't you heard of too big to fail? Failure is not an option.
 
AssHatZombie said:
You are 100% wrong. I refer you to our current trade imbalance, which makes all past metaphors inapplicable. The new JOBS created would allow people to pay the higher prices. Let's keep our money in america, ok, shirley? Thanks for playing.
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Yet we can look at the result of exactly what you propose in history.
 
King of Guns said:
And yet these 'some writers' are mysteriously absent from being listed.
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AND, mysteriously absent is who is behind the website and it does not explain its scoring system in detail ... But that will not deter dogma...

Politicalcompass.org

The Politicalcompass.org website does not reveal the people behind it, beyond the fact that it seems to be based in the UK. According to the New York Times, the site is the work of Wayne Brittenden, a political journalist. According to Tom Utley, writing in the Daily Telegraph, the site is connected to One World Action, a charity founded by Glenys Kinnock, and to Kinnock herself. An early version of the site was published on One World Action's web server.

The website does not explain its scoring system in detail and some writers have criticized its validity while others have treated it more as a form of entertainment than a rigorous analysis.
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But keep trying, and don't worry about the blood on your forehead...LOL
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AssHatZombie said:
No. we cannot. Due to the new and never before seen levels of our trade imbalance.
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Yes, we can. Laws supporting exactly what you speak about were enacted in the past with disastrous results. Superfreak gave specific examples. Purposefully ignoring the past results of what you propose won't make them work better "this time"...
 
Damocles said:
Yes, we can. Laws supporting exactly what you speak about were enacted in the past with disastrous results. Superfreak gave specific examples. Purposefully ignoring the past results of what you propose won't make them work better "this time"...
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They were not in a context of our current trade imbalance fiasco, therefore, they are inapplicable. The metaphor is insufficieint as proof.
 
Bfgrn said:
AND, mysteriously absent is who is behind the website and it does not explain its scoring system in detail ... But that will not deter dogma...

Politicalcompass.org

The Politicalcompass.org website does not reveal the people behind it, beyond the fact that it seems to be based in the UK. According to the New York Times, the site is the work of Wayne Brittenden, a political journalist. According to Tom Utley, writing in the Daily Telegraph, the site is connected to One World Action, a charity founded by Glenys Kinnock, and to Kinnock herself. An early version of the site was published on One World Action's web server.

The website does not explain its scoring system in detail and some writers have criticized its validity while others have treated it more as a form of entertainment than a rigorous analysis.
wiki

But keep trying, and don't worry about the blood on your forehead...LOL
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If I repeat myself enough, maybe everyone will get bored refuting my lack of points and I can claim victory. Derp derp herp.
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You have no evidence to the contrary, therefore you cannot refute the political compass.
 
AssHatZombie said:
You are 100% wrong. I refer you to our current trade imbalance, which makes all past metaphors inapplicable. The new JOBS created would allow people to pay the higher prices. Let's keep our money in america, ok, shirley? Thanks for playing.
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LMAO.... point to just ONE example in history where a tariff war led to prosperity. Just one.
 
AssHatZombie said:
They were not in a context of our current trade imbalance fiasco, therefore, they are inapplicable. The metaphor is insufficieint as proof.
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Tell us.... do you actually comprehend what is causing the massive trade imbalances? Somehow I think you do not. Our dependency on foreign oil is by far the largest reason we have such a massive deficit. Corporate taxation is another, albeit much smaller reason.

Rather than starting a trade war via tariffs, we should instead:

1) Eliminate our dependency on foreign oil (as much as possible). The easiest way to do this is to convert vehicles to nat gas given we have the existing technology and the fact that transportation is responsible for 70% of our oil consumption. This also adds REAL JOBS back to the US economy in that we would need to not only expand our drilling of nat gas domestically, but also in that we would need to convert our infrastructure to include nat gas at gas stations.

2) Eliminate the stupidity of the corporate tax. This allows US workers to become more competitive with foreign for those manufacturing jobs you pretend you want to return to the US. Instead of the corporate tax, have a flat tax on ALL income sources for the individual. Have a high standard deduction to protect the low and mid income families. This eliminates all loopholes and deductions that the wealthy and corporations (who are owned in large portions by the wealthy) currently use.

Those two things would eliminate the bulk (if not all) of the current trade deficit we see.
 
King of Guns said:
Merriam Websters disagrees.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/authoritarian
Those antonyms seem more in line with Libertarianism quite frankly. And the 1st definition fits you to a T.
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BTW sonny boy, scribbling over my words is not an argument, it is a childish tantrum.

Dictionary.com
Main Entry: authoritarian

Part of Speech: adjective

Definition: domineering

Synonyms: absolute, authoritative, autocratic, despotic, dictatorial, disciplinarian, doctrinaire, dogmatic, harsh, imperious, magisterial, rigid, severe, strict, totalitarian, tyrannical, unyielding

Notes: authoritarian is tyrannical while authoritative commands respect

Antonyms: democratic, liberal

Roget's 21st Century Thesaurus, Third Edition



English Collins Dictionary - English Definition & Thesaurus

authoritarian
1
adj absolute, autocratic, despotic, dictatorial, disciplinarian, doctrinaire, dogmatic, domineering, harsh, imperious, rigid, severe, strict, tyrannical, unyielding
2
n absolutist, autocrat, despot, dictator, disciplinarian, tyrant

Antonyms
, adj broad-minded, democratic, flexible, indulgent, lenient, liberal, permissive, tolerant


Vocabulary.com
authoritarian

noun, adjective

Definition: (n.) 1. a ruler with absolute sovereignty; 2. someone who acts in a tyrannical manner; 3. someone who believes in an authoritarian political system; (adj.) 1. requiring strict obedience to authority

Synonyms: (n.) dictator, tyrant, autocrat, totalitarian, disciplinarian; (adj.) tyrannical, dictatorial, repressive, imperious, autocratic

Antonyms: (n.) democrat, (adj.) democratic, submissive, permissive
 
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