Canada has an acute SHORTAGE of DOCTORS - staffing crisis expected to get much worse

Bigdog

Bigdog

Harris - make America a 3rd world shithole
When the Gov't takes over the medical industry, that's what happens.


" Oct 08, 2023 ... Canada has an acute shortage of doctors — a staffing crisis that is expected to get much worse in the years ahead as the number of residency positions on offer fails to keep up with rapid population growth.

Despite those challenges, roughly 1,000 Canadian doctors who went to school abroad are turned away every year because they can't get residency spots in Canada, according to a CBC News review of medical school data. Physicians are required to go through a residency in order to be licensed to practice.

Canadian doctors who want to come home to work are routinely told it's not possible because resources are limited and there are only so many residency positions to go around.

But the medical schools that run residency programs still find room for foreign nationals from countries like Oman, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia — people who frequently have no intention of staying here to work over the long term.

All of this is done with Ottawa's blessing. The federal government has exempted medical schools from immigration laws that require Canadians get priority for a job.

Critics maintain that dismantling the foreign "visa trainee" program — which gives several hundred residency spots to non-Canadians — would free up positions so more homegrown doctors can work here in Canada and help chip away at the physician deficit.

Meet the Canadian-born doctors who can't work in Canada"

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/fo...cute shortage,up with rapid population growth.
 
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Part of the problem is Canada's racism against its own citizens.

"The result is a massive brain drain, as many qualified Canadian physicians are forced to go to the U.S. — a country where residency positions are more readily available.

Canada is short of doctors — and it's turning away hundreds of its own physicians each year"
 
Bigdog said:
Part of the problem is Canada's racism against its own citizens.

"The result is a massive brain drain, as many qualified Canadian physicians are forced to go to the U.S. — a country where residency positions are more readily available.

Canada is short of doctors — and it's turning away hundreds of its own physicians each year"
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Lot of Canadian citizens who can afford it travel to the US for medical care like surgeries and cancer treatments etc.
 
America has a shortage of doctors. That was deliberate so they could keep wages high and they would have a lot of power. The number of people getting into med school was limited. Then corporate hospitals took their power away and doctors are judged by the profits they make.
 
Nordberg said:
America has a shortage of doctors. That was deliberate so they could keep wages high and they would have a lot of power. The number of people getting into med school was limited. Then corporate hospitals took their power away and doctors are judged by the profits they make.
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Got a quote you can post here with a source?
 
Bigdog said:
Got a quote you can post here with a source?
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America is experiencing a physician shortage, and it’s only expected to get worse—a concerning situation that could lead to poorer health outcomes for many patients.
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https://time.com/6199666/physician-shortage-challenges-solutions/

“We talk about a worsening physician shortage, but I want to make sure that people understand that there's a physician shortage today,” she said, adding that—according to data from the U.S. Health Resources and Services Administration (HRSA)—“there is a shortage right now.”
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https://www.ama-assn.org/practice-m...re-here-and-they-ll-get-worse-if-we-don-t-act
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ise-in-the-us-as-wait-times-grow/70352744007/
https://www.vox.com/policy/23753724...re-medicare-medicaid-rural-health-care-access
https://www.sgu.edu/blog/medical/us-doctor-shortage/
https://www.boozman.senate.gov/publ...can-help-by-expanding-our-physician-workforce

Of course the doctor shortage is compounded in the US by the nurse shortage
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31479295/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK493175/
https://www.aha.org/news/headline/2...crisis-will-continue-without-concerted-action
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
https://time.com/6199666/physician-shortage-challenges-solutions/


https://www.ama-assn.org/practice-m...re-here-and-they-ll-get-worse-if-we-don-t-act
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ise-in-the-us-as-wait-times-grow/70352744007/
https://www.vox.com/policy/23753724...re-medicare-medicaid-rural-health-care-access
https://www.sgu.edu/blog/medical/us-doctor-shortage/
https://www.boozman.senate.gov/publ...can-help-by-expanding-our-physician-workforce

Of course the doctor shortage is compounded in the US by the nurse shortage
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31479295/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK493175/
https://www.aha.org/news/headline/2...crisis-will-continue-without-concerted-action
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There's plenty of P.A.'s and N.P.'s that seem to fill that gap. Haven't you noticed all those 'Urgent Care' doc in a box places that have popped up?
I've also noticed a lot more physicians with D.O. behind their name rather than M.D.
Never heard of a D.O. 20 or 30 years ago.
Am I wrong ExpressLane?
 
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Nordberg said:
America has a shortage of doctors. That was deliberate so they could keep wages high and they would have a lot of power. The number of people getting into med school was limited. Then corporate hospitals took their power away and doctors are judged by the profits they make.
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The UK, New Zealand, Australia and Canada all have fewer doctors per 1000 people than the US does.
 
Bigdog said:
When the Gov't takes over the medical industry, that's what happens.


" Oct 08, 2023 ... Canada has an acute shortage of doctors —
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I don't know all the ends and outs but I have known a Canadian physician working in the U.S. He makes more here. A lot more.
I also knew a canadian gal at Tulane that went to medical school in Toronto.
She was a genius, the type I would have thought would be a specialist but ended up delivering babies in B.C.
She quit , moved to Australia and helps her husband in medical research now.
 
Bigdog said:
When the Gov't takes over the medical industry, that's what happens.


" Oct 08, 2023 ... Canada has an acute shortage of doctors — a staffing crisis that is expected to get much worse in the years ahead as the number of residency positions on offer fails to keep up with rapid population growth.....
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Nordberg said:
America has a shortage of doctors. That was deliberate so they could keep wages high and they would have a lot of power. The number of people getting into med school was limited. Then corporate hospitals took their power away and doctors are judged by the profits they make.
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Bigdog said:
Got a quote you can post here with a source?
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Poor Richard Saunders said:
The U.S. Physician Shortage Is Only Going to Get Worse. Here Are Potential Solutions

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Bigdog said:
Thank you, but I am aware of the U.S. doctor shortage....
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FLOL, no you were not aware of the US Dr shortage liar.

If you were aware then you would have said 'and also why the US has a shortage of Dr's as the Gov't took over'.

You created a direct cause and effect equation that 'Dr shortage = Government take over' which means you are ALSO saying that in the US or alternatively you were full of shit in your first statement.
 
Bigdog said:
Thank you, but I am aware of the U.S. doctor shortage. It was the rest of his screed I'd like to see a quote for.


" By 2034, according to the Association of American Medical Colleges, the demand for primary and specialty care physicians will exceed supply by a range of 37,800 to 124,000 physicians. Jun 29, 2023"
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It is in my second link, third link, fifth link and sixth link.
 
ExpressLane said:
The UK, New Zealand, Australia and Canada all have fewer doctors per 1000 people than the US does.
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Now compare the number of family doctors or general practitioners per 1000 people in those countries and the US.

Because we have an overabundance of plastic surgeons and podiatrists doesn't mean we have enough doctors.
 
anonymoose said:
There's plenty of P.A.'s and N.P.'s that seem to fill that gap. Haven't you noticed all those 'Urgent Care' doc in a box places that have popped up?
I've also noticed a lot more physicians with D.O. behind their name rather than M.D.
Never heard of a D.O. 20 or 30 years ago.
Am I wrong ExpresLane?
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DO stands for doctor of osteopathic medicine. They use the same conventional medical techniques as MDs but with a few other methods. DOs tend to focus more on holistic health and prevention. In holistic health, all parts of a person, including their mind, body, and emotions, are considered during the treatment.


https://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/difference-between-md-and-do
 
anonymoose said:
There's plenty of P.A.'s and N.P.'s that seem to fill that gap. Haven't you noticed all those 'Urgent Care' dim places that have popped up?
I've also noticed a lot more physicians with D.O. behind their name rather than M.D.
Never heard of a D.O. 20 or 30 years ago.
Am I wrong ExpresLane?
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The US army discriminated against D.O.s is WWII so the D.O. stayed home and took care of American families and those families decided they liked them so D.O.s became increasingly popular. I have some very good friends that are D.O.s They actually have more contact hours in Medical school than most allopaths do. They go in the summer time and don't get off like most allopathic schools do. They take the same general courses as allopaths and also take Osteopathic courses. Yes there are lots of Nurse Practitioners and P.A.s in fact in some underserved areas Medicare will pay a Nurse Practitioner more for an office visit than they will pay an MD for the same visit. Go figure :laugh:

TCOM in Fort Worth (D.O.)has ~600 hrs more contact hours than Southwestern in Dallas (M.D.). The president's doctor was a D.O
 
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guno said:
DO stands for doctor of osteopathic medicine. They use the same conventional medical techniques as MDs but with a few other methods. DOs tend to focus more on holistic health and prevention. In holistic health, all parts of a person, including their mind, body, and emotions, are considered during the treatment.


https://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/difference-between-md-and-do
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I've also noticed a lot more specialists that are D.O.'s. My wife's oncologist is one.
One of the three docs at the ophthalmic retina group here (super specialized) is one.
 
anonymoose said:
I've also noticed a lot more specialists that are D.O.'s. My wife's oncologist is one.
One of the three docs at the ophthalmic retina group here (super specialized) is one.
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Yeah today almost all residency programs accept both MD and DO. I had DOs in my residency. In the late 60's DOs successfully sued County hospitals that would not allow DOs on staff. The courts ruled that institutions that accepted public tax money could not restrict DOs from their professional staff.
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
Now compare the number of family doctors or general practitioners per 1000 people in those countries and the US.

Because we have an overabundance of plastic surgeons and podiatrists doesn't mean we have enough doctors.
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Plastic surgeons do a lot more than boobs you boob. And feet need care too you idiot.

And the stats say the US has more doctors per 1000 people than the UK, NZ, Australia or Canada has idiot.
 
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