California bans building parking lots near transit stops

cawacko said:
I'm not following the logic behind say a new environmental law that increases energy costs or an increase in the income tax makes housing cost more. Home prices in Texas and Florida have risen dramatically recently. Is that because they passed a bunch of wacky laws and have high income taxes?

(I have football blaring in the background and honestly can't try and do math on a hypothetical right now. I'll try and answer that later.)
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Trust me if you can't do that math in a 15 sec commercial break you need to stay in California. The increasing prices of construction materials (Biden flation) the increasing labor cost (paying people to stay home = bad) and the increase in people moving from California and New York and other states moving into Texas have all helped to increase the cost of homes.(Seller's market) Do you deny that Californians are leaving California to lower their tax burdens?

According to the Census estimates, Texas welcomed 537,000 - 582,000 new residents in 2019. This is the seventh year in a row that Texas attracted more than 500,000 new residents from out of state.
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https://www.google.com/search?q=how...me..69i57.31505j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

BTW: The comparison on California housing costs and Texas housing costs was from Mar 05, 2022

https://homeia.com/city-living-guid...ost of a home,lower than the national average.
 
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cawacko said:
We have such a deficit of housing that it is going to take a loooong time to catch up. And no single piece of legislation is going to change that deficit, including this one. However, hopefully this legislation is a catalyst for additional change that will make building needed housing even slightly easier.

I'll throw this out there. You hear in a number of states about Californian's moving there and messing things up. For those that feel that way, they should be happy this legislation passed. More housing here likely means less people leaving the state.
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please note that when I say develoopment I mean commercial as well as residential. stop incorporating more businesses and that housing deficit will take care of itself.

Cali is FULL. At least the costal metropolises.
 
cawacko said:
This is actually good legislation. Everyone here complains there's too much traffic, congestion blah, blah, blah along with completely unaffordable housing. How do you deal with that? Build more housing near public transportation that allows those who want to to get around without a car. Previously the law required a minimum parking amount which was a huge cost burden and contributed to preventing development. If you're building out in the burbs away from public transit then yes you need to provide more parking. But if you're building right next to BART and other public transportation then you need less.

This will help provide more housing. It's a good thing.
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Until you realize that you can't do everything on public transit and need a car. Then it becomes a major problem...
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Until you realize that you can't do everything on public transit and need a car. Then it becomes a major problem...
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Or if you cant spare three hours every day to get around town to get done the things you need to do.

Notice how the communists dont give a fuck.
 
cawacko said:
This is actually good legislation. Everyone here complains there's too much traffic, congestion blah, blah, blah along with completely unaffordable housing. How do you deal with that? Build more housing near public transportation that allows those who want to to get around without a car. Previously the law required a minimum parking amount which was a huge cost burden and contributed to preventing development. If you're building out in the burbs away from public transit then yes you need to provide more parking. But if you're building right next to BART and other public transportation then you need less.

This will help provide more housing. It's a good thing.
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Not from the POV of individual people. If you have no alternative to public transit, you spend much more time travelling to wherever and returning. You are limited in your ability to shop for many things, like groceries. In fact, all around, you are hit if you can't have a vehicle.

The same thing goes for developers. If you are a developer, any site within half a mile of a transit stop suddenly becomes a big negative because you can no longer provide parking. The same goes for businesses. If you are a business and you have no parking available, instead you have to rely solely on persons using public transit, you are likely ass fucked.

And yes, Cali might want developers to build low-income housing and such, but there's really no money in it so they're likely to not bother. You don't build new section 8 housing. You cheaply refurbish rundown and antiquated buildings that nobody really wants any longer.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Not from the POV of individual people. If you have no alternative to public transit, you spend much more time travelling to wherever and returning. You are limited in your ability to shop for many things, like groceries. In fact, all around, you are hit if you can't have a vehicle.

The same thing goes for developers. If you are a developer, any site within half a mile of a transit stop suddenly becomes a big negative because you can no longer provide parking. The same goes for businesses. If you are a business and you have no parking available, instead you have to rely solely on persons using public transit, you are likely ass fucked.

And yes, Cali might want developers to build low-income housing and such, but there's really no money in it so they're likely to not bother. You don't build new section 8 housing. You cheaply refurbish rundown and antiquated buildings that nobody really wants any longer.
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Soon new construction will not have any gas hook-up and will not have parking....instantly making it not attractive....another problem for developers.

The communists dont seem to care though, of course they would love to rub out private ownership and property rights wholesale.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Or if you cant spare three hours every day to get around town to get done the things you need to do.

Notice how the communists dont give a fuck.
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Try carrying say ten bags of groceries onto a bus and having to do a transfer to get home...

Or, you are a maintenance worker and have to take your personal tools to and from work, and these are in a roll cabinet...

There are lots and lots of jobs besides being a tech worker in a cubicle, but the radical Left that dreams up this retarded shit can't grasp that.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Try carrying say ten bags of groceries onto a bus and having to do a transfer to get home...

Or, you are a maintenance worker and have to take your personal tools to and from work, and these are in a roll cabinet...

There are lots and lots of jobs besides being a tech worker in a cubicle, but the radical Left that dreams up this retarded shit can't grasp that.
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I am reminded of how I was once talking with a Seattle "transit advocate" (what he called himself) who was moaning about how it is so sad that we cant rip out I-5 and replace it with mass transit, the neanderthals just wont do it, and I made just that point...."What about all the worker bees in their trucks who keep the city running....what do you expect them to do?".

He had no answer, it was as if he had never considered the problem.

These fuckers are living in Fantasyland, and they are hurting us.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
I am reminded of how I was once talking with a Seattle "transit advocate" (what he called himself) who was moaning about how it is so sad that we cant rip out I-5 and replace it with mass transit, the neanderthals just wont do it, and I made just that point...."What about all the worker bees in their trucks who keep the city running....what do you expect them to do?".

He had no answer, it was as if he had never considered the problem.

These fuckers are living in Fantasyland, and they are hurting us.
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That's the sort that lives in an apartment. For them, the water comes out of a faucet, the shit disappears down a hole in the toilet. Air conditioning is a given, how it works is irrelevant. When something doesn't work, you call the apartment manager and somebody shows up and fixes it. You the renter, assume you're better than them because you have an office job or something.

People like that are helpless when things go wrong. They haven't got a clue how anything in their world really works. It's really kind of sadly pathetic.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
That's the sort that lives in an apartment. For them, the water comes out of a faucet, the shit disappears down a hole in the toilet. Air conditioning is a given, how it works is irrelevant. When something doesn't work, you call the apartment manager and somebody shows up and fixes it. You the renter, assume you're better than them because you have an office job or something.

People like that are helpless when things go wrong. They haven't got a clue how anything in their world really works. It's really kind of sadly pathetic.
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These coastal elite Ivy league schmucks have no idea how people live..... nor do they want to.....it is irrelevant to them....we are going to be remade fit for UTOPIA....or else get thrown overboard.
 
The roads in my region were a clusterfuck today because of gross mismanagement, which was paired with lying.

I am in a mood.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
If your business is within a half mile of a transit (eg., bus) stop, you will no longer be able to build parking spaces or a parking lot to accommodate your customers. If you are building apartments, you can't provide parking spaces for your tenants. If you are a car dealer... Well, you get the idea here. The state of California expects you to take the bus or other public transit everywhere like a good little peasant.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/rea...pc=U531&cvid=7fedf37f9f904a52a529775aa0a4710b

So, I guess this means people won't need those mandated electric cars after all...
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Of course, they've been doing this for years. They don't want people to be able to travel and this is why I won't haul freight in or out of California.
 
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