But hey they just want their abominable marriage recognized!

Buckly J. Ewer said:
Couldn't Rosa Parks have just waited for the next bus, my racist friend?
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Apples and oranges Mr Racist.

You see what Rosa Parks was fighting against was institutionalized racism enforced by laws passed by your fellow democrat party. Yeah, I know you don't want to face up to that fact. Here is where you say that all of those democrats converted to the GOP because the GOP passed Civil Rights.

Governments cannot discriminate on any grounds. Private businesses can and should be able to. Since leftardiots don't believe in the concept of private property because of their communist beliefs, these principles are lost on them
 
evince said:
your racism is destroying the country


we will not allow it to do so.

If you don't want to have to serve gay people or black people or tall people then fucking move out of this country
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It isn't racism to deny service to gays. Unless you think all gays are of a specific "race"?

Anyway, if you don't want to serve them then make it a private "club" the rules are different and a club can, and many do, refuse entry to whomever they wish. It's part of that pesky 1st Amendment where people have a right to assemble thing...
 
I Love America said:
Apples and oranges Mr Racist.

You see what Rosa Parks was fighting against was institutionalized racism enforced by laws passed by your fellow democrat party. Yeah, I know you don't want to face up to that fact. Here is where you say that all of those democrats converted to the GOP because the GOP passed Civil Rights.

Governments cannot discriminate on any grounds. Private businesses can and should be able to. Since leftardiots don't believe in the concept of private property because of their communist beliefs, these principles are lost on them
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It is the same mindset that made Jim Crow laws and refusal to serve a gay couple. Bigotry and racism grow from the same seed... As you should know well my racist friend.
BTW, didn't you like institutionalized racism? I would think you would have been happy to be a Democrat before 1963 and support segregation.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
Still whining about other posters, eh?

Why am I not surprised?
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USFREEDUMB isn't really happy unless she is gossiping about someone...
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Norah said:
In my personal opinion a privately owned business should be able to deny service for any reason. If a restaurant only wants to serve one type of people then ultimately that decision will either work out for their business or it will fail and they will close up. If this bakery doesn't feel right in catering a wedding for a gay couple then the couple should look elsewhere and if the bakery's decision ends up offending so many local people that it hurts their business then that's something they will take responsibility for. If I walked into a bakery and the owner said that they don't make cakes for Christian girls id be mad but I'd give my business to someone else and ultimately that owners decision will either have no impact or he will offend more and more people and his business will probably fail. I certainly wouldn't want him making my cake after that. Also if I were getting married id want the bakery to be invested in my cake and actually want to bake it. I would not want to get my wedding cake through a bakery that doesn't want to serve me for whatever reason. Freedom isn't always something that is an advantage to you personally and one day all the people that wan to constantly be appeased will probably end up offending someone else causing the shoe to be on the other foot. Basically my point is that if you don't like someone's business practices then don't shop there.
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The Civil Rights Act disagrees. Unfortunately it doesn't cover gays, though.
 
Buckly J. Ewer said:
It is the same mindset that made Jim Crow laws and refusal to serve a gay couple. Bigotry and racism grow from the same seed... As you should know well my racist friend.
BTW, didn't you like institutionalized racism? I would think you would have been happy to be a Democrat before 1963 and support segregation.
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I oppose government enforced discrimination. I support the individual. The truth is that in a free market racism would be non existent because it is bad economics. Your party has terrorized blacks for centuries.
 
Norah said:
People do have a right to freely exercise their religion but there is no right to not be offended or refused service from a private business. The easiest way to punish a business that you or others consider to be bigoted is to not give them business at all. Would you want to give your money to a business that doesn't want your business but is forced to give it to you? You are still effectively funding a bigot or a racist aren't you?
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That doesn't work in areas of entrenched racism. SCOTUS has weighed in on situations like this, Heart of Atlanta Motel, Inc. v. United States for one.

"The Heart of Atlanta Motel was a large, 216-room motel in Atlanta, Georgia. In direct violation of the terms of the Civil Rights Act of 1964—an act which banned racial discrimination in public places, largely based on Congress' control of interstate commerce—the motel refused to rent rooms to black patrons."
 
patriot66 said:
Aw but in the same way, you show hatred, disdain, and bigotry toward what they believe in, you can't have it both ways.
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Please show where I have shown hatred, disdain and biogotry towards Christians, thanks. I respect those who practice their faith, but do show disdain to people like you who use it to preach hatred and division and to judge others.
 
Celticguy said:
Nice try but no cigar. This is not a.compromise situation. You don't pay the baker for an unfinished product.
Freedom isn't always pleasant. Free association perhaps means the freedom not to associate.
Take a less toxic subject, motorcycle club members in your resturant. Sure they're just suburban guys who enjoy riding expensive toys but some only see leather and chains. Hit the road or take the money.
Or the kids soccer team, loud and boisterous.
Who's rights rule ?
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Also, refusing to write something hateful on a cake is not the same as discriminating against gays. It is like requiring patrons to wear shoes and a shirt in your establishment which is totally legal because it isn't a rule which restricts a specific group of people.
 
Does anyone recall the line this couple drew? They have no problem baking cakes for homosexuals. They drew a line at baking "wedding cakes for homosexual marriages". I think there is a difference that is distinctive regarding their religious freedom and conscience.
 
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J Craft said:
Does anyone recall the line this couple drew? They have no problem baking cakes for homosexuals. They drew a line at baking "wedding cakes for homosexual marriages. I think there is a difference that is distinctive regarding their religious freedom and conscience.
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Your distinction stinks lady.
 
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