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The Almighty
How many months under Obama does that make that unemployment was over 8% and the labor participation rate WHILE the labor participation rate was falling?
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How many months under Obama does that make that unemployment was over 8% and the labor participation rate WHILE the labor participation rate was falling?
Why should the rate remain unchanged, though? The decrease in labor force participation rate is a trend that started in, like, 2000.
evince
Truthmatters
and unders whos watch was the mess created?
dude face it the "were you better off 4 years ago" is a dead stupid Idea.
It points straight back at the republicans worst failure since the great depression.
your party is full of revisionist history idiots
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
I'll be voting for Stein.
Four years ago we were loosing jobs like a bucket with a hole in the bottom. Now we are adding them...
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/0...-america’s-domestic-enemy/job-creation-chart/
The nation is moving in a better direction.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/0...-america’s-domestic-enemy/job-creation-chart/
The nation is moving in a better direction.
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The Almighty
yes, it came down from the peak in 2000, but from 2004-2008 it remained steady at about 66%... it has fallen substantially since then. That coupled with a 8.1% unemployment rate shows just how pathetic jobs 'growth' has been.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/74/US_Labor_Participation_Rate_1948-2011.svg
evince
Truthmatters
you will never be able to "revise" this history to your statisfaction unless you join reality and leave the republican ideas ranks.
You ideas fucked the entire world economy up.
deregulation, massive tax cuts for the wealthy and wars created on lies and gone unpaid for have done this to us.
They were republican ideas.
Why after 4 short years would any country put you back at the wheel?
christiefan915
Catalyst
I agree with her on more than 90% of the issues.
Back when jobs were being lost every month, all Damo cared about was the direction, that was all that mattered.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/0...-america’s-domestic-enemy/job-creation-chart/
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/0...-america’s-domestic-enemy/job-creation-chart/
evince
Truthmatters
I remember talking to a republican two fucking months after Obama was president and that idiot was denying Bush ever made that annoucement.
I was dumbfounded by his stupidity and lack of current events.
You can fool you rabble.
They want to be fooled.
You can not fool all the American people with your fucking lies.
I was dumbfounded by his stupidity and lack of current events.
You can fool you rabble.
They want to be fooled.
You can not fool all the American people with your fucking lies.
Here's a chart from the beginning of the boom in about 1980 to the present. The trend seems from about 2000 onward seems pretty clear to me and isn't entirely unexpected given demographic shifts:
This is the metric that, in my view, most matters are really gauges what you are getting at SF:
Basically, this measures people that went from unemployed (meaning out of work but looking for work) to out of the labor force (out of work and not looking). The present rate remains extremely high, and that's really bad.
http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/09/07/chart-of-the-day-employment-status-edition/
Basically, this measures people that went from unemployed (meaning out of work but looking for work) to out of the labor force (out of work and not looking). The present rate remains extremely high, and that's really bad.
http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/09/07/chart-of-the-day-employment-status-edition/
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The Almighty
Glass Steagall under Clinton and Rep Congress
Low interest rates and weak dollar policy under Bush and Rep/Dem Congress
Economic meltdown under Bush and Dem Congress
Median income is down
Labor participation is down
Unemployment remains up above 8%
No desh, it is not a stupid idea.
Funny you bring up the great depression given that Obama's recovery is the weakest one since then.
Again desh, not my party, I see the faults in both parties. You do not.
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The Almighty
This is the metric that, in my view, most matters are really gauges what you are getting at SF:
Basically, this measures people that went from unemployed (meaning out of work but looking for work) to out of the labor force (out of work and not looking). The present rate remains extremely high, and that's really bad.
http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/09/07/chart-of-the-day-employment-status-edition/
ROFLMAO... so you are looking at the exact same thing you just told me was ridiculous. The labor participation is simply the inverse of that chart, it tells the same story you dolt.
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
I met with her on her trip to Georgia and drove her to two different community meetings over her weekend stay. I pressed her on every question I had about her vision .. including her position on Israel and the Palestinians.
My Co-Chair, Dr. Crawford, Stein, and myself.
evince
Truthmatters
yes it is your party wether you admitt it or not.
You side with them at nearly every turn and have the same insane hate level for Obama.
You have exscoriated me for years for my ideas.
AT every turn no matter what I said you pretended it was idiotic.
Now you and you ideas have pushed this level of hate so far you make no fucking sense on anything.
You hate for hates sake.
You were wrong and I was right.
fuck you and your insistance that you ALWAYS have it right and facts you dont like dont matter.
just fuck you sp
Actually, it doesn't tell the same story and it isn't the exact same thing by a long shot. The labor force participation rate just tells you whether people dropped out of the labor force without any way to measure why they dropped out, which could include a whole host of reasons. This metric tells the story of people that were unemployed, available and looking for work but gave up on the looking part. It's much narrower and really drives home the point that you are making.
Thank you would have sufficed.
cawacko
Well-known member
My mom voted Clinton in '96, Bush '00, Kerry '04, Obama '08 and now apparently Romney in '12. She was a Democrat as a youth, became a Republican for a short period of time and then has not been registered to a party (or Independent) for quite awhile. We don't live in a swing state but I guess she qualifies as one of the type of voters the campaigns are targeting in the sense she's not voting party line each election but she's also not voting third party (well except for maybe 1980 when I remember they took me as a kid to a Jon Anderson campaign event).