BREAKING: Newly elected Louisiana GOP Rep. Luke Letlow, 41, dies of coronavirus

Hello Bull&Terrier,

Bull&Terrier said:
key word, related. not died from covid. if you die from a heart attack from complications of a broken leg during surgery, did you die from a broken leg or a heart attack related to a broken leg?


the difference is minor but key, covid set in motion the conditions for his death, but the heart attack is most likely related to an allergic reaction or an undiagnosed previous condition.



fact is healthy people under 65 have a better chance of dying from driving to get the vaccine than from covid. so by odds alone either he had an pre existing unkown condition or a response to medication.
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Not true. Way more COVID deaths than auto fatality.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Bull&Terrier,



The same article says: "Passed away due to complications from COVID-19."

It also says he routinely disregarded social distancing and mask-wearing, and pushed for 'opening up the economy.'

He said Louisiana would be "in real danger" if the COVID precautions were continued.

The hospital said he: "suffered a heart attack while undergoing treatment to fight the virus."

That implies he never would have had the heart attack if he never had to be treated for COVID-19.

Corona got him. There's no denying it.

It's almost always complications from fighting the disease that causes the deaths, but they are still COVID deaths.
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You're talking to an idiot that is too politically jaded to understand truth from lies, Fake News from today's headlines, and Reality from Donald Trump's Conspiracy theories.

You may as well be talking to a piece of shit! One of the reasons why Trumptards are often referred to as exactly that by people who think with reason!

Many Diabetics die from Gangrene poisoning- which is a symptom of being Diabetic- as we all know!

The heart fails from many root illnesses as we all know!

Save your breath on these idiots. Because even to their own detriment, Trumptards just have to learn on their own as they don't trust anyone but Trumptards to tell them anything.
 
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Stretch said:
You still don't comprehend immunization. The rest of the modern world does. They even actually GET immunized for some diseases Oh well.:palm:
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What a fucking moron you are. I am a college-educated, licensed health care professional. I'm one of those people who educate patients before giving them an immunization. But sure, skank, keep pretending on some obscure political chat site that you know shit about health... and please continue to blame the victims for their deaths. You represent the Reichwing very well, Ursula of the Stupid Tribe. :laugh:
 
Stretch said:
99.998% of wuflu patients recover.
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You are absolutely incorrect, but there's no point in giving you any actual statistical data because you have shown your inability to understand it. A truism in modern America is you can lead a Conservatard to facts, but you cannot make her think.
 
Hello Geeko Sportivo,

Geeko Sportivo said:
You're talking to an idiot that is too politically jaded to understand truth from lies, Fake News from today's headlines, and Reality from Donald Trump's Conspiracy theories.

You may as well be talking to a piece of shit! One of the reasons why Trumptards are often referred to as exactly that by people who think with reason!

Many Diabetics die from Gangrene poisoning- which is a symptom of being Diabetic- as we all know!

The heart fails from many root illnesses as we all know!

Save your breath on these idiots. Because even to their own detriment, Trumptards just have to learn on their own as they don't trust anyone but Trumptards to tell them anything.
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People who think with reason should not have to bolster their arguments with insults. They simply make better arguments.

I'll tell you who I was talking to. I was talking to someone who does not feel the need to insult others, and even continues to treat them with respect after they insult him.

If we really have the upper hand in this argument, isn't that enough?

The merit of the argument is the crux of it.

Tossing in a bunch of insults just detracts from making a good point.

Taking the insult route is usually what the loser of an argument resorts to.

You do think you have the better argument, don't you?

If so, why not let it stand at that?
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Geeko Sportivo,



People who think with reason should not have to bolster their arguments with insults. They simply make better arguments.

I'll tell you who I was talking to. I was talking to someone who does not feel the need to insult others, and even continues to treat them with respect after they insult him.

If we really have the upper hand in this argument, isn't that enough?

The merit of the argument is the crux of it.

Tossing in a bunch of insults just detracts from making a good point.

Taking the insult route is usually what the loser of an argument resorts to.

You do think you have the better argument, don't you?

If so, why not let it stand at that?
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You tell it your way, and I'll tell it my way!

I'm no saint dude, so I don't try to act like one!

If this were a children's forum or place where only reverent people frequented, I'd show a little more restraint!

But it isn't- as this place is filled with some of the worst examples of human beings on the planet!

So you may want to put me on ignore, if you feel I am being irreverent to anyone!
 
Hello Geeko Sportivo,

Geeko Sportivo said:
You tell it your way, and I'll tell it my way!

I'm no saint dude, so I don't try to act like one!

If this were a children's forum or place where only reverent people frequented, I'd show a little more restraint!

But it isn't- as this place is filled with some of the worst examples of human beings on the planet!

So you may want to put me on ignore, if you feel I am being irreverent to anyone!
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If you didn't want my take on it then don't address your comments to me.

I agree with everything you are saying except the insults. All they do is detract from good points made.
 
Bull&Terrier said:
How so?


if I am such a moron, then you can easily answer this unless you are the bigger moron? come on now.


f you go into the hospital for surgery due to a broken leg and die from of a heart attack on the operating table, did you die from a broken leg, or a heart attack?



watch this, give me the total covid death count and tell me which columns were used to get that total:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm
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That is not a similar analogy. Having some medical conditions that are not going to kill you but roar up due to catching Corona is simple, the killing agent was the Trump virus.
 
Bourbon said:
Rep.-elect Luke Letlow (R-La.) died on Tuesday night after being admitted to a Louisiana hospital intensive care unit with COVID-19, his spokesperson Andrew Bautsch confirmed. He was 41.

Read more: https://www.axios.com/louisiana-gop...=social&utm_campaign=organic&utm_content=1100

41 years old. said he had covid dec 18th
admitted to the hospital dec 23rd
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It is sad. He had two young children. They will grow up without a father because of Republican fanaticism.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
You are absolutely incorrect, but there's no point in giving you any actual statistical data because you have shown your inability to understand it. A truism in modern America is you can lead a Conservatard to facts, but you cannot make her think.
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The whole world has had access to the CDC coding stat system since April available to read for yourself. It's been posted here. Read it again. Or not.
 
Walt said:
It is sad. He had two young children. They will grow up without a father because of Republican fanaticism.
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His wife begged him not to go to the Republican parties, but he would not listen to her. He gave it to his wife, child, and several other people who had not attended the Republican parties. They go to their super spreader events, and then return and give the disease to their loved ones who did not go.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Geeko Sportivo,



People who think with reason should not have to bolster their arguments with insults. They simply make better arguments.

I'll tell you who I was talking to. I was talking to someone who does not feel the need to insult others, and even continues to treat them with respect after they insult him.

If we really have the upper hand in this argument, isn't that enough?

The merit of the argument is the crux of it.

Tossing in a bunch of insults just detracts from making a good point.

Taking the insult route is usually what the loser of an argument resorts to.

You do think you have the better argument, don't you?

If so, why not let it stand at that?
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All are good points. The problem with political forums like this and most is that it almost always devolves to pig slop.
There is no discourse anymore just team divide. It is a sad state of our countries pollical system and everything associated with it, you are pigeoned holed into either Team Red or Team Blue.
That literally creates a dynamic in which intelligent discourse is subsumed to broad brushed bullshit.

And it is by design. The problem on these old political forums is that the only thing that leads is pig slop, day to day.

I wish we had more nuance, I do. So far the communal political interaction today is continually devolving towards extremism for no reason other than I got the best mud hole, intellectually.

This IS America and it's a damned shame.
 
Walt said:
His wife begged him not to go to the Republican parties, but he would not listen to her. He gave it to his wife, child, and several other people who had not attended the Republican parties. They go to their super spreader events, and then return and give the disease to their loved ones who did not go.
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It is by design. They want to put on a show of strength without understanding basic biology. The thieves at the top end LOVE it, based on their portfolios. Virus in general don't care about your feels and most that deny biological factual reality don't care about anyone else's feels until it effects them personally. Finally most of these folks think it's all bullshit until someone they know dies or is effected, otherwise it's just a headline in the news. This is the current state of Red vs. Blue 'Murica'.

This will continue until we stop feeding the death spiral of red vs. blue and get Real. There has always only been one game, the 'Horse and the Sparrow'. One eats the oats the other eats the seeds in the shit. The RED VS BLUE is just a bad video game. Forums made up of the people here just fall for it every generation, every fucking time.
 
crowonapost said:
It is by design. They want to put on a show of strength without understanding basic biology. The thieves at the top end LOVE it, based on their portfolios. Virus in general don't care about your feels and most that deny biological factual reality don't care about anyone else's feels until it effects them personally. Finally most of these folks think it's all bullshit until someone they know dies or is effected, otherwise it's just a headline in the news. This is the current state of Red vs. Blue 'Murica'.

This will continue until we stop feeding the death spiral of red vs. blue and get Real. There has always only been one game, the 'Horse and the Sparrow'. One eats the oats the other eats the seeds in the shit. The RED VS BLUE is just a bad video game. Forums made up of the people here just fall for it every generation, every fucking time.
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Even when people they know die, they still blame everyone else. The answer of blaming others is too seductive.
 
Walt said:
Even when people they know die, they still blame everyone else. The answer of blaming others is too seductive.
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It is the poison and the danger of self. It see's nothing else but the greed of 'me'. My generation knew that emotionally before there were words for it. We liked the music, people died but no one understood.


 
anatta = "no self" ( meaning past this lifetime).

But it's also a point of view that looks past egocentric thought within this life
 
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