Biometric National ID cards

Damocles said:
Blaming all erosion of freedom on the Freemasons is plain idiotic. Your belief that they are the center of all that is evil leads you into stupid statements like this one. This stuff doesn't belong in this thread, Freemasons don't care if you have a national ID card.
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I don't think i did that. They are not the center. Sabbatean central bankers are.
 
Damocles said:
What has that to do with my membership in a powerless fraternity? Seriously, it is stupid to keep shouting "Freemason" as real freedom erodes through direct action of people who are most likely not Freemasons.
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I KNEW IT
I KNEW IT

When I read your previoius post, I knew that asshat would jump on this; like a dog on a bone.

:good4u:
 
AssHatZombie said:
they're involved, but not the primary movers and shakers. That organization serves as a bridge to mainstream america, to get cover from middle class businessmen all across the country.
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And yet; with you having all this knowledge, of their secret workings, they still allow you to live.

You should thank them.

:rofl:
 
Damocles said:
Well, in every pentecostal and evangelical southern baptist church I have ever attended (and they were legion when I was a child as this was the world I grew up in) this is what they are taught. It's so ingrained in me, that I would refuse chipping even though I am not a believer.

(BTW - I am not speaking against an identification card with that, just bio-chipping. I also freely admit it is from ingrained paranoia that I still can't shake.)
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This is absolutely correct. It is amazing how much "de-ingraining" I have to do with these people. I make it a point to re-teach the book of Revelation once a year.

That said, I don't like the idea of a national ID card for reasons other than the misguided "mark of the beast" resaon.
 
AssHatZombie said:
they're involved, but not the primary movers and shakers. That organization serves as a bridge to mainstream america, to get cover from middle class businessmen all across the country.
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Yeah, because everybody knows that bankers just say, "Look a Freemason!" whenever they want to connect to America.
 
Damocles said:
I think you realize how silly it sounds when it is more directly stated. They provide a "connection" and "cover" for whom?
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i never said, bankers say, "there's a mason" when trying to connect with americans.

Masonry's national reach into mainsteam american provides a connection from the elite TO the mainstream americans.
 
Damocles said:
Any belief in privacy from the government we have is delusional. They have access to our information, and now even our health information, it was legislated away long ago.

Bank accounts are, by law, accessible in "emergencies" by the government, what you have is given over to them so that they can verify tax documents. From birth to death our records are kept by the government, and accessible to them too. We have long lived in an environment where only the government has any "privacy", which is sickening considering we are supposed to be a government "of the people".
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Yeah, Damo, I agree that the government can get that info...but if it is unwarranted a person can sue. With an ID the access could be instant and unknown to the person....and another demension is how "hackable" would these cards be?...I think it just goes too far.
 
Ice Dancer said:
Yeah, Damo, I agree that the government can get that info...but if it is unwarranted a person can sue. With an ID the access could be instant and unknown to the person....and another demension is how "hackable" would these cards be?...I think it just goes too far.
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The corporations want all our information on these cards so they can tailor marketing and prices to our desires and funds.

Can you imagine if a store could get your bank balance to see how much you can really afford, and change prices accordingly?

A custom screw job for everyone. glory be!
 
AssHatZombie said:
"nothing new here", says damo the mason.
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As if. I am against the cards because of this, at some point people should draw a line and say, "No further."

But, heck, blame the Freemasons, it's real... effective? Look there's a Freemason! (another law passes without objection by AssHat because he's too busy hunting imaginary conspiracies while another intrusion into our freedoms passes...)
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
I KNEW IT
I KNEW IT

When I read your previoius post, I knew that asshat would jump on this; like a dog on a bone.

:good4u:
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