Biden will not #STFU on Georgia

anatta said:
like what? is it possible for you to support your ideas with a reference?
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Is it possible for you to make an argument without lying? No.


I havent heard any calls for election reforms after 2020- and I read crap like Orlando Sentinel
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Then you're not paying attention on purpose because you are a liar, a fraud, and a phony.

Republican plan to make it harder to vote by mail in Florida seen as ‘massive voter suppression’
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/p...0210310-7fg7ny2udjestlk323qadop2vi-story.html
 
anatta said:
which has what to do with federalizing elections?
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Well, since apparently the elections are rife with fraud, and states are the ones who run the elections, it would seem that states fail to run elections that aren't fraudulent.

So that means the only entity that can credibly run elections is the federal government.

You realize that by lying about widespread election fraud, you've just made the case for federalizing of elections since the states cannot seem to get a handle on the fraud you say is rampant.

Again, you fucked your own stupid argument.
 
LV426 said:
You're saying that turnout was up.
So if there weren't additional restrictions, turnout would have been even higher, right?
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not causative, many pepole do not vote for reason that have nothing to do with restrictions (security)

Right, so there's no need to change the election laws since the election was secure.
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correct
most of our reforms are before 2020 -we overhauled them after the 200 fiasco..
I had to stand in line 30 minutes - their were accomodations for the handicapped though

Right, their silence on the laws that conducted the 2020 election, not the new laws you're pushing because you have intrinsically linked your entire persona and character to The Big Lie.
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Florida is not "pushing"any new voter laws
 
anatta said:
which has what to do with federalizing elections?
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You're the biggest advocate for federalizing of elections because you're arguing that the states aren't doing anything to stop the widespread voter fraud you claim happened in the 2020 election without any evidence.

So if the 2020 election was fraudulent, and the 2020 election was run by the states, therefore the states cannot credibly run elections free of fraud. The only entity that can is the federal government.

This is the argument you are making whether you realize it or not.
 
anatta said:
not causative, many pepole do not vote for reason that have nothing to do with restrictions (security)
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But you just said earlier on this thread that turnout was up.

So if you removed the current restrictions and made it easier for people to vote, turnout would go higher, wouldn't it? That's what you're arguing.
 
anatta said:
Bingo. that's exactly what this is ., get everyone whipped up with Jim Crow BS and (unConstituional) federalize elections
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Indeed.

They're going to do it anyway, they just don't want you to realize they don't have a valid reason for doing it.
 
anatta said:
correct
most of our reforms are before 2020 -we overhauled them after the 200 fiasco..
I had to stand in line 30 minutes - their were accomodations for the handicapped though
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OK, so then if there was no need to change the election laws in FL because it was secure, why do we need to change the election laws in GA even though GA's vote was also secure?
 
LV426 said:
Well, since apparently the elections are rife with fraud, and states are the ones who run the elections, it would seem that states fail to run elections that aren't fraudulent.

So that means the only entity that can credibly run elections is the federal government.

You realize that by lying about widespread election fraud, you've just made the case for federalizing of elections since the states cannot seem to get a handle on the fraud you say is rampant.

Again, you fucked your own stupid argument.
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no.
states Sec of State typically overstepped their authorities granted by their legislatures in terms of mass mail outs.
It's not "rampant" either, but it was in key swing states and precincts were the states were anomalies like 90%+
return rates
 
LV426 said:
OK, so then if there was no need to change the election laws in FL because it was secure, why do we need to change the election laws in GA even though GA's vote was also secure?
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youd have to look at Georgia problem and their solutions, and not conflate that to Florida -
each state runs their own presidential election according to the Constitution
 
anatta said:
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Yes, you did.

You're saying that the elections, which are run by the states, are rife with fraud.

So if the states cannot run elections without fraud, then the only entity that can is the federal government.

You dug yourself into a rhetorical hole.
 
anatta said:
nstates Sec of State typically overstepped their authorities granted by their legislatures in terms of mass mail outs.
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No they didn't overstep any authority. It was well within their authorities to do what they did. You just didn't like it because it meant your guy was going to lose.

You're a sore loser who just made the case for federalizing our elections.
 
anatta said:
youd have to look at Georgia problem and their solutions, and not conflate that to Florida -
each state runs their own presidential election according to the Constitution
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AND subject to the Constitution. Kinda forgot that part, didn't you?
 
anatta said:
It's not "rampant" either, but it was in key swing states and precincts were the states were anomalies like 90%+
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That's not an anomaly.

So again, you're making the argument that we cannot trust states to run elections free of fraud.

So since we can't trust states to do that, we have to federalize it.

That's where your argument goes if taken out to its most logical conclusion.
 
Concart said:
Maybe you should try looking at something other than the comics.

https://www.tallahassee.com/story/n...ion-laws-2021-legislative-session/6736150002/
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idiot.
there are always "bills" to "tweak" ( the article uses that term) being contemplated -that doesn mean there isn't widespread agreement by both parties Fl elections are well run, giving both access and security.

do you bother to read your own links?

Florida stood out on election night for having all its votes counted way ahead of any other state.

That was largely due to state election laws, streamlined over the last 20 years since the balloting and recount debacle that put the outcome of the 2000 presidential election into double overtime and made Florida the punchline of late night talk show hosts.

“A number of things set Florida apart from other states: The voting options, our canvassing procedure, our election day deadline for the receipt of ballots,” Secretary of State Laurel Lee told the House Public Integrity and Elections Committee this past week.

Not only did Florida break the curse of the hanging chad, it avoided many of the controversies that embroiled several swing states and led to legal challenges that put the outcome of the 2020 presidential election up in the air for weeks.
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anatta said:
youd have to look at Georgia problem and their solutions, and not conflate that to Florida -
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There was no problem with GA's elections.

So why do you think there was? Because you're a sucker who bought into The Big Lie, and you can't go back on it now.
 
anatta said:
each state runs their own presidential election according to the Constitution
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Well according to you, states can't be trusted to do that.

So if states can't be trusted to do that, the only two options are for the federal government to do it, or not to have elections at all....I think I know where you land on that.
 
LV426 said:
That's not an anomaly.

So again, you're making the argument that we cannot trust states to run elections free of fraud.

So since we can't trust states to do that, we have to federalize it.

That's where your argument goes if taken out to its most logical conclusion.
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90+ return rate is an anomaly..you are now reducing yourself to needless argumentum..bye
 
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