Hello again Uncensored2008,
Sure, because the left is OH SO RESPECTFUL.
A ridiculous statement. People on the left and on the right can be respectful or disrespectful. It is your belief which is sadly laughable. Donald Trump is on the right. He can be extremely disrespectful. Bernie Sanders is on the left. He is very respectful.
My positions are based on liberalism, that of Jefferson, Mason, Paine, etc. Your "false supposition" ad hominem aside.
Your position is based on your perception of liberalism, which is not the same as liberalism. Each of us has only perceptions of things, which often differ.
So let's put aside the democrat way for a minute and be honest; the left has two layers. The Bolshevik democrats have adopted in the party the same structure that they seek for the nation; there is a tiny elite of intellectuals who are blatantly dishonest and let's face it, evil. Then there are the masses of democrats who simply are not very bright. The elite depend on those who think neither clearly nor deeply about issues, those who lack a foundation in history or philosophy and will accept the distortions and outright lies that form the basis of the democrats.
I merely acknowledge the factual reality of the situation.
No, you merely state your own unique perception, which you are entitled to. Your perception will differ from that of another. To call your own perception fact is a supposition. The fact that you believe it to be fact does not make it a fact, either.
Your attack is flaccid and founded on hypocrisy. In order for the left to take the moral high ground, the left would have to have some sort of ethical or moral code.
I don't represent the left just because I am liberal. I am merely one individual. To take my statements and equate them with the left is your mistake. It's stereotyping, which is always dangerous.
The proper description of the modern Stalinist-democrats is not "socialist democrat" as is pimped by the Geobelesq press, but rather "sociopath demagogues"
The principles the nation was founded on and prospered under indeed are sufficient to stand on their own merit under honest evaluation.
The United States of America is a not an absolute which can be taken for granted, but a great experiment which could possibly fail.
But then there is nothing even remotely honest about the left.
Such generalizations are usually fraught with inaccuracy. Just as saying there is nothing even remotely honest about the right. What I just said is not really correct, is it? You see it one way, I see it another, somebody else sees a different way altogether. (btw, I don't believe that statement. There is honesty on both sides.) Humans on the left and on the right are very good at fooling themselves. That's because there really is no reality. Each of us has merely his own perception of reality, no two of which are alike. And within our own brains, our perception of things is constantly changing. When we first learn of a concept, an image of it is formed within the brain. This initial perception is then modified as more information is perceived. Take a glance at a photo for one second. You see some things which you recall. If you subsequently study the photo in further detail, you see more things you previously did not notice. Your perception of the photo is then modified in your memory to include the newly noticed details. The photo has not changed. Your perception of it has. When two different people look at the same photo, they may notice different things. It is the same photo, but the two individuals have different perceptions of it. The photo is not reality. It is an image. A different photo of the same subject matter from a different angle will show different details. The two photos have differences. Neither is an absolute representation of the subject matter. Another photo taken at a different time or lighting will show still more differences. All of these are attempts to capture a real scene, but none of them is reality. Humans see in a certain bandwidth of visible light. Other animals see in different bandwidths, so they get even different perceptions, each unique. Senses vary between species and individuals. Perceptions are unique. And they can change.
You of the left expect the normals to be dupes, to put up with your incessant lies and evil deeds.
That is only your perception. I am on the left, and I prefer that everyone in our nation be highly educated and very well informed, because that is the best case for a functional democratic republic and the future of the USA.
The problem is, we normals are woke. I'm done being "polite" to vicious and savage sociopaths.
And I was done even talking to them a long time ago. Now it is merely a chore to identify them and add them to the ever-growing Ignore list.
But you are being polite to me. At least for now. It remains to be seen whether you will melt down and tell me off, or whether continued civil discourse between us will be ongoing. You have stated that you think the term 'low IQ leftists' is redundant, but you have also said 'there is a tiny elite of intellectuals who are blatantly dishonest and let's face it, evil.' These statements are at odds with one another. If your stereotype maintains that the left is low IQ, then how could some of the left be intellectuals?
Looks to me like your stereotyping has a chink in the armor. That is the nature of stereotyping. Stereotyping is an exercise in over simplification, and thus inaccuracy. It's thus unwise. Sure, it is more work to learn the unique combination of characteristics of each individual, but it is far more accurate and thus allows more accurate perception. Left? Right? Those are just labels for people who mostly agree on a similar set of ideas. There's smart and stupid people on both sides. Mature and also very immature. Everybody is unique. Complicated world. Nobody can master it. Nobody can know everything. We are all students of life. We must remain united in our dedication to our country to preserve it for our descendants. Together we have to find a way to preserve this great experiment while advancing it and guiding it through progress and growth.
The POWER you of the left have is that the right has ethics, which you use as a club to beat us with.
Everyone should be held to the same standards of decency. If you proclaim to be above certain actions which you then participate in, you should expect to be rightly criticized.
But we normals are radicalized, no more being meek and mild with the left.
That sounds self-contradictory. Normal and radical are two different groups. If an individual cross over, then that does not mean masses have. That individual may wish to believe that, and such belief may help that individual feel that he is doing the right thing, but that doesn't make it fact. If masses became radical, social order would break down into armed revolution. We don't have that, so normal people are not radical.
We are here to debate the survival of this nation.
Then I am glad you and I agree the nation cannot be taken for granted. As to your statement: "The principles the nation was founded on and prospered under indeed are sufficient to stand on their own merit under honest evaluation." That is true and I again agree. We merely disagree as to what those principles are. And this is normal. So did the founders!
The normals win, or the nation falls. Simple as that, and we all know it.
We are both normals. What is a normal? Who is this 'normal citizen?' How much is any of us allowed to deviate from that one 'normal person' and still also be normal? Well, of course, those are facetious questions. Normal is subjective.
There is this peculiar phenomenon among some Trump supporters that they want to think they somehow represent 'the REAL America.' They think they are the only Americans which are rightly supposed to have power and determine policy. Which is absurd because the Constitution gives each individual one vote. But among these particular Trump supporters, not all of them, they believe there are more of them than there really are. They disbelieve the polls. They think Trump's inauguration was the biggest, that Trump really won the popular vote, that most of America loves him. They are sadly mistaken, but they really believe this. They are not normal, but they THINK they are. Very sad, but it is their right, and that should be protected. But we don't have to agree.
It is widely understood that the left focuses on how to destroy this country and end the Constitution ...
No, it is not. This is only the perception of some. And it makes no sense. Why would citizens of a nation want to destroy their own nation? Many on the left LOVE this country and the Constitution greatly, and wish to preserve both. And they hold these principles in common with most of the right.
...to pave way for a globalist/socialist dictatorship. My impetus is to stop the left from the quest of ending government by the people and returning us to the standard rule of the elite.
You have not shown that the left desires to abandon the Constitution. You have merely stated it. Saying things is easy. That doesn't make them true.
I am not a democrat, hence I support your liberty to do any damned thing you like.
You have failed to show that Democrats would oppose liberty.
If you fear my words and ideas, by all means hide from them.
I've said nothing of the sort. My Ignore policy is clearly stated. You either share common respect or I won't be reading what you write. It's really quite plainly stated.
Putting others on ignore is a futile move, though you may not be exposed to ideas you cannot understand nor refute, your opponent will still defeat and humiliate you in the open forum, you simply will not be present to defend yourself.
I couldn't care less what some people think. Respectful people do not live by the views of disrespectful people. Meaningless words are just that.
You appear to believe this forum is some sort of contest or game which can be won or lost. I don't see it that way at all. Many view it entirely differently. Some find the Ignore feature highly useful, myself included. If you don't want to use it, that is your prerogative.
I have no problem understanding ideas or refuting them where I disagree. But if it boils down to personal insults then ideas are no longer being discussed. Thus, I find it logical to simply filter those posts out and quickly move on to posts which do not include insults.
Nobody lives forever. We do not have unlimited time on this planet. It is logical to make a decision how to spend one's limited time of existence. Choosing to avoid insult contests avoids wasting time on something uninteresting. This has the advantage of freeing up more time to focus on ideas. Those who spend time immersed in flame wars are not spending that time learning anything. Thus, those who do not devolve into flame wars have more time to lean things, and more chances to become more well informed.
