Bernie Is A Communist. Democratic Socialism is an Oxymoron

[Robo]

Bernie says healthcare is a right, what about expecting people that use healthcare to pay for it, is that a “right” too?

Bernie says a college education is a right. What about folks expecting folks pursuing a college education to pay for it? Isn’t that a “right’ too?

Bernie says a $15.00 an hour minimum wage is a right. How about expecting a $15.00 an hour worker to deliver $15.00 an hour worth of work? Isn’t that also a “right?”

Bernie says the government should create, run & finance Medicare for all, even Bernie now admits that the wealthy ain’t got enough money to pay for that & everybody with a job would have to pay for it and all private healthcare provided by employers & or others, would have to be abolished because that money needs to be given to the fucking government for the Medicare for all program.

Bernie says the Boston Marathon bomber has the right to vote from his jail cell.

Bernie is a fucking kook!!!!!!

Americans have the “RIGHT” to “PURSUE” happiness, with their own fucking money, not taxpayer’s money!

Bernie’s preaching communism AKA “PROGRESSIVISM.”

 

[evince]

Hello Robo,



Trump the demagogue knows this well. He has zeroed in on immigrants. 'Blaming' them for wrecking the economy. Which is strange as the economy is doing well despite so many immigrants in the country.



Not all super-rich people are greedy and insensitive. But enough of them are to be responsible for all those things.



It was a working vacation. Bernie and his new wife visited Yaroslavl, Russia, as a part of a Sister-City program as Bernie was then mayor of Burlington, VT. Everything else you're reading into it (and omitting) is pure propaganda.



You write a best-selling book, you get rich. Bernie has no problem mixing capitalism with socialism in the correct balance, just as our nation does and should do. Most successful nations do the same thing.



Totally bogus. Complete BS. You're now just putting words in his mouth. Everyone, if you want to know what Bernie is proposing, you'll get a much better understanding if you actually listen to Bernie, not what highly imaginative conservatives claim he says. (with absolutely no actual quote of Bernie ever saying anything like it)



Show us where Bernie claims he wants a dictatorship.

Show US The Quote!

Show US The Quote!

Show US The Quote!

You can't do it.

Your words are like paper in the wind. Fwooosh! Nothing there.



That is totally bogus. The reason Bernie has never said that is because that is not what he envisions. You build up a big stuffed straw man out of Bernie and they you rip it shreds. I hope you are amusing yourself because nothing, absolutely nothing of what you say about Bernie's platform is true. You're peddling total BS.

You can't come up with a good argument to counter what Bernie actually says because Bernie is right and you're wrong.

So you make up all this stuff and put words in his mouth and then claim to dispute it.

Are you having fun arguing with yourself?

Bernie Hired MANFORTS coworker in The Russian beat down in the Ukraine


He is COMPROMONTED you fool

 

[evince]

China has a mixed economy, contains elements of capitalism just as the US has elements of socialism, all Bernie has in mind is expanding those elements to address the ills of capitalism, the inequality caused by unchecked profit, he's not talking about abondoning capitalism

Bernie is COMPROMONTED



he is TAINTED


why do you Bernie people refuse FACTS just lie the trump bots?

 

[evince]

Tad Devine???????




He worked on the Sanders campaign the ENTIRE TIME


bernie only recent fired him.


and you Bernie people REFUSE to face that FACT



Bernies "IDEAS" are not "his" ideas folks



they have been around for decades




we don't need him to have those IDEAS put in place


GET IT

 

[Gonzomin]

Rightys have such strange bunker mentalities. Robo is among the worst. There is no socialism and no capitalism. Every country has a mixture. Scandanavian countries have corporations , private enterprise and citizens work for a living as they do here. They just care about their people more than our wealthy do . They provide healthcare and safety nets. Of all the industrial countries, just one does not have universal healthcare. All the other industrial countries are not Socialists.

In America, we name call and label what we do not want to have here. It is dishonest. It works on rightys very well though. Call it Socialism and the rightys bring out torches and pitchforks. The low level mob mentality is so easy to trigger. Universal healthcare is cheaper, covers all the people and is more humane.

 

[Airstrip One]

You must be, what, ....eight four years old?
Only octogenarians and the super old are still hollering about "commies", "bolsheviks", "reds".

I literally cannot think of any millennial, or gen-xer in real life who talks about communism, has a Cold War mindset, or even has any lucid memories of the Soviet Union.

Bernie, and a lot of young people, would like to have a society something like Norway, Sweden, or Denmark.

Bernie could have honeymooned in Scandinavia, but chose the USSR, instead. He also has a history of favoring actual socialist countries in Latin America over merely progressive leftist countries.

 

[archives]

Rightys have such strange bunker mentalities. Robo is among the worst. There is no socialism and no capitalism. Every country has a mixture. Scandanavian countries have corporations , private enterprise and citizens work for a living as they do here. They just care about their people more than our wealthy do . They provide healthcare and safety nets. Of all the industrial countries, just one does not have universal healthcare. All the other industrial countries are not Socialists.

In America, we name call and label what we do not want to have here. It is dishonest. It works on rightys very well though. Call it Socialism and the rightys bring out torches and pitchforks. The low level mob mentality is so easy to trigger. Universal healthcare is cheaper, covers all the people and is more humane.

Appears most Trumpkins on this forum have a junior high understanding of economics and economic systems, they still view the world thru a Cold War lense, the dichotomy makes it easy for them to "understand"

 

[Into the Night]

Hello Robo,
Trump the demagogue knows this well. He has zeroed in on immigrants. 'Blaming' them for wrecking the economy. Which is strange as the economy is doing well despite so many immigrants in the country.

No, he is putting the blame where it belongs...on the Democrats.

Not all super-rich people are greedy and insensitive. But enough of them are to be responsible for all those things.

Paradox. Which is it, dude?

You write a best-selling book, you get rich. Bernie has no problem mixing capitalism with socialism in the correct balance, just as our nation does and should do.

Nations aren't books.

Most successful nations do the same thing.

Nations aren't books.

Totally bogus. Complete BS. You're now just putting words in his mouth. Everyone, if you want to know what Bernie is proposing, you'll get a much better understanding if you actually listen to Bernie, not what highly imaginative conservatives claim he says. (with absolutely no actual quote of Bernie ever saying anything like it)

Bernie is a socialist. He even says so.

Show us where Bernie claims he wants a dictatorship.

Okay. See the documentation here.

That is totally bogus. The reason Bernie has never said that is because that is not what he envisions. You build up a big stuffed straw man out of Bernie and they you rip it shreds. I hope you are amusing yourself because nothing, absolutely nothing of what you say about Bernie's platform is true. You're peddling total BS.

To implement communism in the United States, you will have to destroy the Constitution so you can replace the government with an oligarchy or dictatorship.

You can't come up with a good argument to counter what Bernie actually says because Bernie is right and you're wrong.

Bernie says he is a socialist. See the goals of socialism here.

So you make up all this stuff and put words in his mouth and then claim to dispute it.

Nope. Bernie says it and continues to say it.

Are you having fun arguing with yourself?

I might ask you the same question. It is YOU that puts so many people on your ignore lists.

 

[Into the Night]

China has a mixed economy, contains elements of capitalism just as the US has elements of socialism, all Bernie has in mind is expanding those elements to address the ills of capitalism, the inequality caused by unchecked profit, he's not talking about abondoning capitalism

China is communist. It is socialist.

Socialism can only exist by theft. Capitalism has no ills. It is the only economic system that creates wealth. Unchecked profits? Apparently you have no clue what price discovery is.

* It was capitalism that brought the price of steel down to practical levels. The material is everywhere now. Same with aluminum. Aluminum used to be worth more than gold.
* It was capitalism that brought the price of bromine down (a lot!). That material is used in quite a few industries as well.
* It was capitalism that brought the price of paper down to practical levels. It's everywhere now.
* It was capitalism that brought the writing on it down to practical levels. The invention of the printing press revolutionized the distribution of knowledge itself.
* It was capitalism that brought the computer down to practical levels where it's possible and practical to buy a personal one for your home or apartment.
* It was capitalism that brought you the internet, web, and the cloud. Companies like Amazon, Microsoft, Oracle, and literally thousands of other sources made these into the forms they take today.
* It was capitalism that brought you the car., the gasoline to put in it, and the FADEC engine design that runs them.
* It was capitalism that created the pollution control systems in those cars. Capitalism reduced smog, soot, and other air pollution.
* It was capitalism that created the modern sewage treatment plant. Some of these are being improved by capitalism to put out potable water from their discharge points.
* It was capitalism that created the modern refrigerator and air conditioning systems.

The view of the socialist is one of being an ingrate.

 

[Truth Detector]

Bernie Is A Communist. Democratic Socialism is an Oxymoron

That term is almost as stupid as Wealth Gap meme's and Wealth inequality memes.

 

[StoneByStone]

THREAD FAIL

 

[Truth Detector]

You must be, what, ....eight four years old?
Only octogenarians and the super old are still hollering about "commies", "bolsheviks", "reds".

You must be what; three years old? Only historically challenged morons with no concept of history think it is wise to keep repeating it.

You're a Marxist aren't you comrade? You want to pretend that Marxism no longer exists and that Fascistic policies promoted by the Party of the Jackass are good fro everyone. STFU you arrogant buffoon.

I literally cannot think

That is so true.

....of any millennial, or gen-xer in real life who talks about communism, has a Cold War mindset, or even has any lucid memories of the Soviet Union.

That is because our leftist educational establishment doesn't educate any more. They indoctrinate our children with the same LAME, LIE filled dogma you erupt with here every damned day.

Bernie, and a lot of young people, would like to have a society something like Norway, Sweden, or Denmark.

Our society can NEVER be like Norway, Sweden and Denmark. They aren't utopias either. They have high suicide rates. I wonder why?

What you would get is a lawless third world shit hole like Venezuela. Why not just move if things are that horrible here? Much easier than bitching and crying all the time.

 

[Truth Detector]

China isn't communist? And pure capitalism doesn't seem to work very well either. What seems to work best is a system where we take bits of socialism to patch up the great gaping holes in capitalism and bits of capitalism to patch up the great gaping holes in socialism. That includes taxing those who take an excessive share from the economy.

Pure capitalism works just fine until Government hacks start mucking up the works. The bolded remarks are the dumbest thing spoken on the planet. No one has TAKEN an excessive share. The notion that we need corrupt politicians redistributing to those who vote for them is moronic. Grow a brain.

 

[Truth Detector]

But Trump fans are nothing if not absurd.

Ironic coming from a loon who is nothing but absurd.

 

[Truth Detector]

Robo never has anything except piles of BS.

Ironic coming from someone who does nothing but lie and BS.

 

[Truth Detector]

Absolutely at being a communist plant pretending to be a Independent, and who was in it too to damage Hillary's campaign with his propaganda smear tactics. This diabolical scheming of his at using his own conning method in order to manipulate young voters into believing he cared for their well being but only cared for his communist agenda which is un American. Yet now that feeling the Bern has been exposed for his own un American atrocities, it appears feeling the Bern at being a traitor to the Independent party in particular is a washed up loser. I think at this point Democracy has had enough of communist and other uncivilized influences on governance and the well being of society.

 

[Truth Detector]

The old merry combination of state-capitalists and McCarthyites to avoid democracy is getting a bit tired, surely? How, without democracy, can the vast working majority take power away from the thieves?

Who are these thieves and what are they stealing?

 

[Truth Detector]

THREAD FAIL

BRAIN FAIL

 

[Into the Night]

Rightys have such strange bunker mentalities.

False dichotomy fallacy.

Robo is among the worst.

False dichotomy fallacy.

There is no socialism and no capitalism.

There is both. Denying them does not make them go away. Redefinition fallacy (socialism <-> void, capitalism <-> void).

Every country has a mixture.

True. However, in the United States, socialism is illegal.

Scandanavian countries have corporations, private enterprise and citizens work for a living as they do here.

They are also largely capitalist.

They just care about their people more than our wealthy do.

That's what capitalism does. Socialism doesn't care about people.

They provide healthcare and safety nets.

To a point. These are weak.

Of all the industrial countries, just one does not have universal healthcare.

WRONG. Canada does not have universal healthcare. It has no healthcare except what people are willing to buy for themselves. The same story is in the U.K., although not quite as bad as Canada.

All the other industrial countries are not Socialists.

Canada is a monarchy. It is also quite socialist. Same with the U.K.

In America, we name call and label what we do not want to have here.

Redefinition fallacy again.

It is dishonest.

A redefinition fallacy is dishonest, dude.

It works on rightys very well though.

No, it doesn't. We catch you liberals at this kind of activity all the time.

Call it Socialism and the rightys bring out torches and pitchforks.

They should.

The low level mob mentality is so easy to trigger.

Socialism is theft. It should be triggered.

Universal healthcare is cheaper,

No, it isn't.

covers all the people

No, it doesn't.

and is more humane.

Canada's healthcare system is not humane. Neither is the healthcare in the U.K. Neither is the theft required to pay for them.

 

[Into the Night]

Pure capitalism works just fine until Government hacks start mucking up the works. The bolded remarks are the dumbest thing spoken on the planet. No one has TAKEN an excessive share. The notion that we need corrupt politicians redistributing to those who vote for them is moronic. Grow a brain.

It is literally a redefinition fallacy (socialism <-> capitalism). You are quite right. Capitalism needs no government at all to function.