Barney Frank attacks student

TuTu Monroe said:
The student had every right to ask the question, as millions of others wanted to know. When Frank tried to avoid the question, the student asked again and Frank became defiant. He looked like a boob IMO.
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Frank gave a 5 minute dissertation on what took place with the funds that went to AIG and who gave them etc. If it didn't meet your expectations, what would you have him say unless it met your political view? He didn't give you the answer you wanted, thus you call it avoidance. Can you tell me what the original question was? On my version, the video started with a reply, not a question. How could Frank "avoid" a question you never heard?

That said, why was the student's original question left out of the video if it was the point of the entire piece? Might one suspect a little bit of selective editing to manufacture a point? Why was it necessary to title the the film/thread in a misleading way? Some might call it yellow journalism.
 
TuTu Monroe said:
The student had every right to ask the question, as millions of others wanted to know. When Frank tried to avoid the question, the student asked again and Frank became defiant. He looked like a boob IMO.
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Asking for evidence for ridiculous claims = avoiding the question. Gotcha.
 
wilton said:
The AIG bonus deal is a distraction used by both sides to lob bombs at each other...

Barney Frank is an asshole... The student should have asked him why he opposed regulations on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the root of the sub-prime mess, in 2003. And he says the Republicans are against regulations. What a fag.

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/09/11/b...ed-to-oversee-freddie-mac-and-fannie-mae.html
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This coming from the guy who doesn't think eliminating the capital gains tax is a form of class warfare! LOL LOL LOL
 
Harvard student vs. Barney Frank: who caused the economic meltdown?

Recently, Massachusetts Rep. Barney Frank was giving a speech at Harvard University's Kennedy School of Government when a student asked him how much responsibility, if any, the chairman of the House Financial Services Committee felt for the global economic meltdown.

Frank, perhaps defensive over charges that he fought Bush administration efforts to reign in Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae in 2001, dismissed the question as "a right-wing attack," and challenged the student to make clear what else a Democratic congressman from Massachusetts might have done to prevent the crisis.

The student, Joel Pollak, replied that perhaps Frank could have done more to patrol executive bonuses to AIG and other giants bailed out with $700 billion in taxpayer funds.

The exchange got pretty heated -- another student came to Pollak's rescue, imploring Frank not to label the student as a conservative but to answer his question. But Frank insisted that he had not been chairman of the committee before 2007, and was hardly to blame for policies before that.
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belme1201 said:
Frank gave a 5 minute dissertation on what took place with the funds that went to AIG and who gave them etc. If it didn't meet your expectations, what would you have him say unless it met your political view? He didn't give you the answer you wanted, thus you call it avoidance. Can you tell me what the original question was? On my version, the video started with a reply, not a question. How could Frank "avoid" a question you never heard?

That said, why was the student's original question left out of the video if it was the point of the entire piece? Might one suspect a little bit of selective editing to manufacture a point? Why was it necessary to title the the film/thread in a misleading way? Some might call it yellow journalism.
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TuTu Monroe said:
Harvard student vs. Barney Frank: who caused the economic meltdown?

Recently, Massachusetts Rep. Barney Frank was giving a speech at Harvard University's Kennedy School of Government when a student asked him how much responsibility, if any, the chairman of the House Financial Services Committee felt for the global economic meltdown.

Frank, perhaps defensive over charges that he fought Bush administration efforts to reign in Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae in 2001, dismissed the question as "a right-wing attack," and challenged the student to make clear what else a Democratic congressman from Massachusetts might have done to prevent the crisis.

The student, Joel Pollak, replied that perhaps Frank could have done more to patrol executive bonuses to AIG and other giants bailed out with $700 billion in taxpayer funds.

The exchange got pretty heated -- another student came to Pollak's rescue, imploring Frank not to label the student as a conservative but to answer his question. But Frank insisted that he had not been chairman of the committee before 2007, and was hardly to blame for policies before that.
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Did the student say Frank was in the minority at the time and ask if the Chairman of the committee had any responsibility? Or, then there's the bush appointed Treasury Secretary, where was he? Did they have any responsibility?
That said, where is an answer to why the question was left off the video and the honesty of the title of the thread/video.
 
belme1201 said:
Did the student say Frank was in the minority at the time and ask if the Chairman of the committee had any responsibility? Or, then there's the bush appointed Treasury Secretary, where was he? Did they have any responsibility?
That said, where is an answer to why the question was left off the video and the honesty of the title of the thread/video.
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What he should have asked was "in the 90's why did you and Dodd force Fannie and Freddie to loan to people who could not afford it?
 
True, Frank has a history with FM, going back to its beginning. I see nothing wrong with this thread's title. Frank did attack the kid, for daring to question him.

Ice Dancer said:
What he should have asked was "in the 90's why did you and Dodd force Fannie and Freddie to loan to people who could not afford it?
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TuTu Monroe said:
True, Frank has a history with FM, going back to its beginning. I see nothing wrong with this thread's title. Frank did attack the kid, for daring to question him.
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And tried to pass off any responsibility to before his tenure. He was definitely chairman for long enough to effect changes. What changes were effected in his tenure?

Well. The uptick rules was removed, the bailouts happened, bonuses that were clearly outlined were paid to people who didn't deserve them, etc. And all his answer was he wasn't responsible for any policy before 2007? What did he say against any of the policy implemented before that time? Why did he insist that Fannie May and Freddie Mac were strong and needed no changes in 2008 just before they failed utterly and received government bailouts?
 
Damocles said:
And tried to pass off any responsibility to before his tenure. He was definitely chairman for long enough to effect changes. What changes were effected in his tenure?

Well. The uptick rules was removed, the bailouts happened, bonuses that were clearly outlined were paid to people who didn't deserve them, etc. And all his answer was he wasn't responsible for any policy before 2007? What did he say against any of the policy implemented before that time? Why did he insist that Fannie May and Freddie Mac were strong and needed no changes in 2008 just before they failed utterly and received government bailouts?
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You're such a turd. You know full well within months of becoming chairman he sponsored and passed virtually the same bill that you and yours keep pretending would have saved the world in 2005.
 
Dungheap said:
You're such a turd. You know full well within months of becoming chairman he sponsored and passed virtually the same bill that you and yours keep pretending would have saved the world in 2005.
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The turds are the people who pretend that he has no impact before the year 2007 and refuse to recognize any impact he has made since. I do not believe that it was ignorance that made him worship FM & FM just before they failed. And I did not criticize him for passing that bill, I criticized him for reasons I believe he should be criticized. I will note that when he "passed" that bill he was firmly on the side of working with the Bush Administration and McCain who had both previously put forward the idea.

Kind of like Obama and Bush are twins on immigration.
 
evince said:
Too wierd how some think this is some big smackdown.

The kid looked stupid in the end.
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You're delusional. The "kid" was asking a few honest questions. He did NOT make any accusations; he simply asked how much responsibility, IF ANY, Frank felt for the financial crisis. Frank immediately went on the attack. Did you even watch the video?

In the end, Frank looked like a complete asshole. If you think otherwise, you're probably no better than Frank.
 
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wilton said:
The AIG bonus deal is a distraction used by both sides to lob bombs at each other...

Barney Frank is an asshole... The student should have asked him why he opposed regulations on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the root of the sub-prime mess, in 2003. And he says the Republicans are against regulations. What a fag.

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/09/11/b...ed-to-oversee-freddie-mac-and-fannie-mae.html
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Just a bit of history. In 2003, bush was President, the chairman of Frank's committee was a Republican, the Treasury Secretary was a bush appointee. the Speaker was a Republican, the Senate Majority Leader was a Republican, the majorities in both Houses of Congress were GOP, and the President was promoting an Ownership Society policy.
Frank, in the minority was Ranking Member without the means to bring a bill to the floor or call committee meetings. All he could do was voice an opinion, right or wrong. If no bill came to the floor it's because some Republican somewhere decided not to do so. Hindsight is so convenient in shifting blame from where the fault truly lies, and I don't blame you for that!

You should be very careful with your "fag" posts, you know what they say about those that protest too much......
 
In response to the question (how much responsibility did he feel for the financial meltdown), Frank could have simply responded "none." That would have sufficed. My only point is this behavior is unacceptable for a public official. Frank has no class. He's a bum.
 
Damocles said:
The turds are the people who pretend that he has no impact before the year 2007 and refuse to recognize any impact he has made since. I do not believe that it was ignorance that made him worship FM & FM just before they failed. And I did not criticize him for passing that bill, I criticized him for reasons I believe he should be criticized. I will note that when he "passed" that bill he was firmly on the side of working with the Bush Administration and McCain who had both previously put forward the idea.

Kind of like Obama and Bush are twins on immigration.
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As a new member of the "turd" club I thought, since I have nothing better to do, that I'd reply. The only denial I'm seeing is that in blaming Frank you seem to imply that the entire responsibility for the current fiscal situation lays in the lap of the Dems, specifically Frank. If that is the case, let me welcome you into the turd club as one of those who pretend that since and prior to 2007 Frank is the sole villain and ,of course, none of the downtrodden and powerless GOP has any responsibility whatsoever. Anyone that understands the hierarchy of the US Congress knows that to attribute total responsibility on a single Congressman if the minority party while dismissing the majority party from all resposibility is either disingenuous or due to limited knowledge
 
The questioner asks about Frank's culpability and Frank talks about hedge funds. Hedge funds did not cause the subprime collapse; it's a garbage answer and in court of law would be termed non-responsive.
 
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