Average tax refund down 17 percent, IRS reports

So this is a brand new Conservative talking point in defense of their failed tax cut, and it's only rearing its head now that the past promises made of the tax cut didn't come to fruition.

There weren't wage increases.

Outsourcing and offshoring didn't stop.

It didn't pay for itself.

It didn't grow the market.

It did result in record stock buybacks, which is something Conservatives promised wouldn't happen.

So you've jettisoned all your past defenses for this new excuse.

You lie
 
How is this "economics"?

The economics of this are that GDP growth is going to be negatively affected because of smaller refunds this year, even after your guy promised that wouldn't happen.

So it seems all you people do is make promises that you have no intention of fulfilling, in order to trick people.

Average REAL GDP by decade.
1900's = 3.9%
1910's = 2.9%
1920's = 3.4%
1930's = 1.0%
1940's = 5.6%
1950's = 4.2%
1960's = 4.5%
1970's = 3.2%
1980's = 3.1%
1990's = 3.2%
2000's = 1.8%
2010's = 2.1%
OBAMA =1.48%
https://www.crestmontresearch.com/docs/Economy-GDP-R-By-Decade.pdf
 
It is when you raised the tax liability by removing exemptions and deductions.




What have I misrepresented, and how did I misrepresent it?

So this is a brand new Conservative talking point in defense of their failed tax cut, and it's only rearing its head now that the past promises made of the tax cut didn't come to fruition.

There weren't wage increases.

Outsourcing and offshoring didn't stop.

It didn't pay for itself.

It didn't grow the market.

It did result in record stock buybacks, which is something Conservatives promised wouldn't happen.

So you've jettisoned all your past defenses for this new excuse.

:lolup:Willful idiot thinks reducing tax rates is a failure for Americans. Yes, liberals really are that stupid and dishonest. :laugh:
 
The economy is teetering on the edge of recession.

Lie and Lame. Obamunism sucked.

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Why would anyone expect a bigger refund for having less tax withheld? The benefit is in the untaxed portion of your earnings.
 

Nah, you all lied. Over and over.

You lied about your tax cut increasing wages
You lied about your tax cut growing the market
You lied about your tax cut not affecting refunds
You lied about your tax cut paying for itself
You lied about your tax cut stopping outsourcing and offshoring

You lied about all of it.

Now you're changing your argument.
 
Nah, you all lied. Over and over.

You lied about your tax cut increasing wages
You lied about your tax cut growing the market
You lied about your tax cut not affecting refunds
You lied about your tax cut paying for itself
You lied about your tax cut stopping outsourcing and offshoring

You lied about all of it.

Now you're changing your argument.

:lolup:Lying leftist triggered by the idea that Americans should keep more of what they earn. :laugh:
 
No we're not.

The economy is teetering on the edge of recession.

Once it does, the great Conservative re-branding will commence.

That's when every single Conservative will fire up their old Bush-Off Machine and slap a new "Trump-Off" label.

But it won't work this time.

Trump is Conservatism and Conservatism is Trump.
Stop crying, pussy. You're thinking like a dirty fucking communist. America is sick of filth like you.

We're doing juuuust fine, despite your self-defeating behaviors.
 
No, you all were being dishonest when you said it would raise wages by $4K-$9K, that refunds would be unaffected, that it would pay for itself, that it would grow the market, and that it would stop offshoring and outsourcing.

I told you to find a quote of me saying that. If you can’t then you lie

I would never make a claim about refunds being unaffected because it is a ludicrous statement and you are deliberately lying.
 
Why would anyone expect a bigger refund for having less tax withheld? The benefit is in the untaxed portion of your earnings.

He is either phenomenally stupid or a liar.

Of course they are not mutually exclusive.

That people rely on refunds just shows how effective the gobblement has been at getting the sheep in line

We need to go back to a system and end withholding and have everyone cut a check to the gobblement at the end of the year for their taxes.

Watch leftist heads explode at that prospect further solidifying their ignorance.
 
I told you to find a quote of me saying that. If you can’t then you lie

So that's your defense? OK.

Then why do you support the Russia Tax Cut?

I would never make a claim about refunds being unaffected because it is a ludicrous statement and you are deliberately lying.

You might not have made the claim, but Treasury Secretary Mnuchin did. Last time I checked, he was Trump's Treasury Secretary, and you support Trump, right?
 
He is either phenomenally stupid or a liar.
Of course they are not mutually exclusive.
That people rely on refunds just shows how effective the gobblement has been at getting the sheep in line
We need to go back to a system and end withholding and have everyone cut a check to the gobblement at the end of the year for their taxes.
Watch leftist heads explode at that prospect further solidifying their ignorance.

We need to go back?

You're the ones who pushed this tax scam on everyone...now you're saying you don't support it?
 
So that's your defense? OK.

Then why do you support the Russia Tax Cut?



You might not have made the claim, but Treasury Secretary Mnuchin did. Last time I checked, he was Trump's Treasury Secretary, and you support Trump, right?

How many times do I have to explain it to you?
 
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