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Mr. Meeseeks said:
it's a landslide by every metric that matters.

It's not a landslide if you are into participation trophies.
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For sh*ts and giggles how would you characterize this as a landslide? He won yes, but he didn't even win the popular vote (hell he got less votes than McCain and Romney did when they lost). Republicans retained the House and Senate but they lost seats in both.

Reagan winning 49 states was a landslide. How is this comparable?
 
cawacko said:
For sh*ts and giggles how would you characterize this as a landslide? He won yes, but he didn't even win the popular vote (hell he got less votes than McCain and Romney did when they lost). Republicans retained the House and Senate but they lost seats in both.

Reagan winning 49 states was a landslide. How is this comparable?
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what people rarely state though is the republicans were supposed to take a thrashing this time around, no matter who was at the top. Just as, all things being equal, democrats are supposed to take a thrashing in 2018. Purely a function of # of seats being defended.
 
tsuke said:
what people rarely state though is the republicans were supposed to take a thrashing this time around, no matter who was at the top. Just as, all things being equal, democrats are supposed to take a thrashing in 2018. Purely a function of # of seats being defended.
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No, that's not true. The House was never suppose to be in play. The Senate was going to be close.

You're trying to create a new definition for a term.
 
Thing1 said:
I really had no idea - I looked it up as soon as I read this. This guy is in the dark ages on marijuana legalization.

So much for populism. Over 60% now support legalization, but Sessions looks likely to oppose the will of the people on this.
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trump has said he would like it left to the states. so hopefully he keeps sessions busy with immigration. Either way, I'm considering growing my very own legal plant while I want for taxachusetts to drag their heels on giving me weed walmarts.
 
cawacko said:
For sh*ts and giggles how would you characterize this as a landslide? He won yes, but he didn't even win the popular vote (hell he got less votes than McCain and Romney did when they lost). Republicans retained the House and Senate but they lost seats in both.

Reagan winning 49 states was a landslide. How is this comparable?
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it's like losing the world series 0-4 but claiming that each team had almost the same amount of runs spread out over four games. That is not the metric by which we measure elections. It's an entirely different game. For example, many republicans might stay home in new york or california given they know those states are 99% clinton. But if we actually had a popular vote election many more republicans could have turned out in those states and clintons margin wouldn't be what it is currently. We really don't know what the turnout would be in a popular vote election because it would completely change the dynamics and dump the election on its head. It's almost a meaningless question.

So yes, if you are playing "the popular vote" game, then sure, not a landslide. But that's not the game we are playing, it isn't the game clinton was playing or trump was playing, no matter how much liberals want to believe it. And I can assure you, clinton isn't sitting at home watching netflix right now saying to herself "well... at least I won the popular vote"... no... she is feeling like the complete and utter loser she is. A disaster. She lost to the pussy grabber. She had almost unprecedented support and advantages and she fucked it all up.

Trump flipped multiple blue states red that haven't been red for 20 years. He had a superior strategy that paid off. In the game of electoral college (which is what the candidates actually play), clinton got blown the fuck out.

Michael phelps beat his competition by only fractions of a second. Maybe you think they are all fine swimmers, but in the olympics that's not good enough. Phelps is the one that is the champ with all the medals around his neck.

So we can keep talking theoretical as republicans keep getting more house seats and governorships and supreme court picks. We can talk theory all we want, but at the end of the day, republicans are winning handily.
 
not really

lets say games are 4-3, 5-4, 1-0, 10-9

the post-series talk isn't going to be how it was a close series. It's going to be how one team got destroyed and swept 4-0.

Popular vote is only good for bragging rights. That's literally it. When it comes to power and implementing your will, it's pennies.
 
Mr. Meeseeks said:
not really

lets say games are 4-3, 5-4, 1-0, 10-9

the post-series talk isn't going to be how it was a close series. It's going to be how one team got destroyed and swept 4-0.

Popular vote is only good for bragging rights. That's literally it. When it comes to power and implementing your will, it's pennies.
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I don't disagree on that, but within the context of this thread, we were specifically talking about style points and the concept of what makes a landslide.

And beyond that, there is always discussion about what constitutes a mandate, and what doesn't. And that judgment goes beyond the basics of the win/loss in the electoral college. I don't see how anyone can argue mandate when more people voted for the other side.
 
Mr. Meeseeks said:
it's like losing the world series 0-4 but claiming that each team had almost the same amount of runs spread out over four games. That is not the metric by which we measure elections. It's an entirely different game. For example, many republicans might stay home in new york or california given they know those states are 99% clinton. But if we actually had a popular vote election many more republicans could have turned out in those states and clintons margin wouldn't be what it is currently. We really don't know what the turnout would be in a popular vote election because it would completely change the dynamics and dump the election on its head. It's almost a meaningless question.

So yes, if you are playing "the popular vote" game, then sure, not a landslide. But that's not the game we are playing, it isn't the game clinton was playing or trump was playing, no matter how much liberals want to believe it. And I can assure you, clinton isn't sitting at home watching netflix right now saying to herself "well... at least I won the popular vote"... no... she is feeling like the complete and utter loser she is. A disaster. She lost to the pussy grabber. She had almost unprecedented support and advantages and she fucked it all up.

Trump flipped multiple blue states red that haven't been red for 20 years. He had a superior strategy that paid off. In the game of electoral college (which is what the candidates actually play), clinton got blown the fuck out.

Michael phelps beat his competition by only fractions of a second. Maybe you think they are all fine swimmers, but in the olympics that's not good enough. Phelps is the one that is the champ with all the medals around his neck.

So we can keep talking theoretical as republicans keep getting more house seats and governorships and supreme court picks. We can talk theory all we want, but at the end of the day, republicans are winning handily.
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LMFAO
 
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