At what point do you have a right to shoot someone dead?

[Bonestorm]

Out of curiostiy, if throwing popcorn is grounds for drawing a gun on a person, what kind of response does someone drawing a gun on you merit? Tactical nuclear device deployment?

 

[SmarterthanYou]

It's quite relavant.

sure it is. would a cop be charged for doing it?

 

[SmarterthanYou]

It was an ex-cop and still no excuse!

and yet a DA would not charge a cop, why?

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Out of curiostiy, if throwing popcorn is grounds for drawing a gun on a person, what kind of response does someone drawing a gun on you merit? Tactical nuclear device deployment?

it doesn't matter WHAT was thrown, it's an issue of being assaulted by another physical object.

 

[Phantasmal]

Would you be charged for drawing your gun? I think the cop would also face an inquiry if he drew his gun and would face murder charges if he fired.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Would you be charged for drawing your gun?

since i'm not a cop, I would most likely be charged

I think the cop would also face an inquiry if he drew his gun and would face murder charges if he fired.

you truly want to hold on to this even after all of the posts i've made about cops getting away with murder and attempted murder?

 

[Bonestorm]

it doesn't matter WHAT was thrown, it's an issue of being assaulted by another physical object.

You didn't answer my question. And, yes, it does matter what as thrown.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

You didn't answer my question. And, yes, it does matter what as thrown.

you didn't answer mine, and no it does not matter.

 

[Bonestorm]

you didn't answer mine, and no it does not matter.

What was yours again? Something about a cop drawing a gun on a popcorn thrower? Yes, that would be bats as well.

 

[Jarod]

I don't think I would feel frightened by someone knocking at 3 am. The fact that they are announcing their presence would make me feel more at ease. Now if I saw someone at my window or door, not knocking that would concern me much more.

 

[/MSG/]

Lol, drawing your gun, tell me STY, if someone drew a gun on you, wouldn't that cause you to act more aggressively? Or would you backdown and just stand there?

Idiots

Yeah, attacking a guy with a gun is brilliant move.

 

[Bonestorm]

Yeah, attacking a guy with a gun is brilliant move.

STY takes the view that having popcorn throw at him is sufficient provocation for him to draw his gun. Do you agree? If so, what response does have a gun drawn on you merit?

 

[cawacko]

Yeah, attacking a guy with a gun is brilliant move.

Yeah, not sure what Rana is thinking on that one.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

What was yours again? Something about a cop drawing a gun on a popcorn thrower? Yes, that would be bats as well.

and yet you would not complain that the DA would not charge because he finds it reasonable, so why not for me?

 

[Bonestorm]

and yet you would not complain that the DA would not charge because he finds it reasonable, so why not for me?

Now you're asking me another queston without first answering mine. That doesn't seem fair.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Now you're asking me another queston without first answering mine. That doesn't seem fair.

what question of yours did I not answer?

 

[BRUTALITOPS]

So, clearly there is a place where you have a right to kill... like say you are backed into an alley being threatened with a gun. And there is a place where you have no right to kill in self defense... like say your waitress spills soup on your lap.

But where is the line? At what point do/should you have a right to shoot?

off the top of my head:

1) someone violating your person. If someone punches me, I have the right to kill them
2) breaking into a home. instant death


that's a good place to start

 

[Bonestorm]

what question of yours did I not answer?

This one:

Out of curiostiy, if throwing popcorn is grounds for drawing a gun on a person, what kind of response does someone drawing a gun on you merit? Tactical nuclear device deployment?

 

[BRUTALITOPS]

Never.

so i can just beat you to death and you just have to sit there and take it? ok chump.

 

[/MSG/]

STY takes the view that having popcorn throw at him is sufficient provocation for him to draw his gun. Do you agree? If so, what response does have a gun drawn on you merit?

Depends on a myriad of things. What lead to the popcorn being thrown, body language, tone, am I seated or standing, is the thrower potentially armed, on drugs, etc. There are hundreds of different things that go into a decision to draw a firearm. So with that caveat in mind, I say maybe.

If I'm in the throwers shoes my reaction to having a gun pointed at me is the same as it's been in the past. Try to calm the situation down. I'm certainly not stupid enough to attack someone who's drawn on me even if they're in the wrong. In either case I'm going to try and defuse the situation peacefully because frankly I don't want to be shot and I don't need to have my carry gun "lost" in police evidence.