At what point do you have a right to shoot someone dead?

[Jarod]

this is not a reasonable assumption.

I agree with you.

Okay so, what about the movie theatre case from this week. You get into an argument with someone because they are texting, words are exchanged, the guy is younger and stronger than you, he seems angry, then throws his popcorn in your face in a threatening way. You believe his next move is going to be to jump you.

Can you shoot?

 

[SmarterthanYou]

I agree with you.

Okay so, what about the movie theatre case from this week. You get into an argument with someone because they are texting, words are exchanged, the guy is younger and stronger than you, he seems angry, then throws his popcorn in your face in a threatening way. You believe his next move is going to be to jump you.

Can you shoot?

I don't recall that going the way you have said it has, however, if it were myself in the position of the old man, I would have alerted the management first. throwing popcorn in my face might prompt me to draw, but I would wait until he made further aggressive moves before shooting.

 

[Bonestorm]

I don't recall that going the way you have said it has, however, if it were myself in the position of the old man, I would have alerted the management first. throwing popcorn in my face might prompt me to draw, but I would wait until he made further aggressive moves before shooting.

Bats.

 

[Phantasmal]

Never.

I was hoping for a reference to terrified doughy grindboys being at the mercy of middle schoolers...I love those posts.

Bats.

Lol, drawing your gun, tell me STY, if someone drew a gun on you, wouldn't that cause you to act more aggressively? Or would you backdown and just stand there?

Idiots

 

[NOVA]

I was wrong it was not 3am, more like midnight.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/news/family-of-boy-shot-and-killed-during-ring-and-run-/nL4s2/

And how did you conclude the NRA was commenting on this case....just pull that out of your rear ?

Did I miss something in your link ?

 

[NOVA]

But what if he is simply retaining the gun to defend himself in case you are going to cause him harm. Say he really needed the help, but because he does not know you wanted the gun in case you turned out to be a bad guy?


Thanks BTW, for being willing to share your thoughts and opinions. I respect that, everyone else here is simply too pussy to discuss this.

Reasonable people....not you, that is.....reasonably conclude that a person at your door at 3am with a gun that he refused to drop is not there
to defend HIMSELF....he presents a clear and present danger to you and your familty....you're not expected to know is background or reason for confronting you....
his gun is a lethal weapon and you're a target....any wrong move and your well within you rights to DEFEND YOURSELF....
REASONABLE people would agree barring any other circumstances......

Now...what about your crack about the NRA ?

 

[Jarod]

And how did you conclude the NRA was commenting on this case....just pull that out of your rear ?

Did I miss something in your link ?

From memory, I am friends w the guy who prosecuted the case. I'll look for a link.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Bats.

care to explain why? or do you just want to fall back on your bullshit?

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Lol, drawing your gun, tell me STY, if someone drew a gun on you, wouldn't that cause you to act more aggressively? Or would you backdown and just stand there?

Idiots

that would all depend upon more specific circumstances. what would YOU do?

 

[Bonestorm]

care to explain why? or do you just want to fall back on your bullshit?

You want me to explain why I think it's bats for someone to draw a gun in a movie theater in response to someone throwing popcorn at him?

 

[SmarterthanYou]

You want me to explain why I think it's bats for someone to draw a gun in a movie theater in response to someone throwing popcorn at him?

yes, explain to us why you think it's unreasonable to draw a weapon after an angry and agitated individual throws something at you and acts like he is going to continue the assault

 

[Phantasmal]

Never.

I was hoping for a reference to terrified doughy grindboys being at the mercy of middle schoolers...I love those posts.

Bats.

that would all depend upon more specific circumstances. what would YOU do?

You have the circumstances, you threw popcorn, the guy has his gun drawn on you, what would you do?

Put yourself in the other guys shoes, you said that if you had popcorn thrown at you, you would draw your gun and wait for further action on the other guys part, but now put yourself in the shoes of a guy throwing popcorn having a gun drawn on you.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

You have the circumstances, you threw popcorn, the guy has his gun drawn on you, what would you do?

Put yourself in the other guys shoes, you said that if you had popcorn thrown at you, you would draw your gun and wait for further action on the other guys part, but now put yourself in the shoes of a guy throwing popcorn having a gun drawn on you.

if I had a death wish I'd happily go after the guy and make him shoot. if I had any sense, with a gun already drawn, i'd get the hell away.

 

[leaningright]

Okay, so lets say someone knocks on my front door at 3AM, can I shoot?

That happened to me a few winters ago. My wife, son and I were fast asleep, of course, and there was a knocking at my front door. I dressed fully and answered the door, gun in hand. "Who is it?" He responded. It was a deputy sheriff on a manhunt. Easy enough to handle in most cases unless the knocker is deranged in some way.

 

[cawacko]

That happened to me a few winters ago. My wife, son and I were fast asleep, of course, and there was a knocking at my front door. I dressed fully and answered the door, gun in hand. "Who is it?" He responded. It was a deputy sheriff on a manhunt. Easy enough to handle in most cases unless the knocker is deranged in some way.

That's interesting my first thought when reading this is if someone knocks on my door at 3am I bet it would be a cop (with my thought being they'd have some bad news about a family member or something).

 

[leaningright]

That's interesting my first thought when reading this is if someone knocks on my door at 3am I bet it would be a cop (with my thought being they'd have some bad news about a family member or something).

And that is exactly what I figured. I have a two brothers who work nights and are on the road constantly. But as it turns out there was a neighborhood manhunt going on and he wanted to make me aware of it. Oh, and what did he think about me answering my door, gun in hand. When he identified himself and I opened the door, I put the gun in my waistband while we continued the conversation. As he was leaving he commented to his cohort, "That's the way you answer the door at 2 in the morning." They caught the assailant the next morning at 11 in some outdoor toilets located at the cemetary, about a mile from my house.

 

[Bonestorm]

yes, explain to us why you think it's unreasonable to draw a weapon after an angry and agitated individual throws something at you and acts like he is going to continue the assault

Popcorn, dude. Popcorn.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Popcorn, dude. Popcorn.

irrelevant, dude. would you excuse a cop for drawing his gun if someone threw popcorn at him?

 

[Bonestorm]

irrelevant, dude. would you excuse a cop for drawing his gun if someone threw popcorn at him?

It's quite relavant.

 

[Phantasmal]

Never.

I was hoping for a reference to terrified doughy grindboys being at the mercy of middle schoolers...I love those posts.

Bats.

You want me to explain why I think it's bats for someone to draw a gun in a movie theater in response to someone throwing popcorn at him?

Popcorn, dude. Popcorn.

irrelevant, dude. would you excuse a cop for drawing his gun if someone threw popcorn at him?

It was an ex-cop and still no excuse!