"At least 11 dead in Virginia Beach mass shooting at municipal center"

Arminius said:
Liberal Lie: The 2nd Amendment only protects the right of the states to maintain militias, rather than the right of individuals to bear arms.

-Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution already provides for the existence of such militias. There would be no reason for the 2nd Amendment to exist if this were correct.

-When the Framers drafted the Bill of Rights, they went out of their way to specify “The People” when talking about the rights of the individual and “The States” when talking about the rights of state governments. For liberals to be correct on this, the 2nd Amendment (‘the right of The People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed’) would have to be the only place in the entire document in which the meanings were reversed.

-The term “well-regulated” in 1789 meant correctly-calibrated and properly formed. There is abundant evidence of this and it is beyond dispute. When the first part of the 2nd Amendment justifies gun rights by explaining, “A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state…,” it is clarifying that you cannot have the kind of disciplined and well-trained citizen militias necessary to repel foreign invasions, put down unrest, and resist government tyranny without an armed populace. This was made unmistakably clear by Alexander Hamilton’s discussion of militias in Federalist 29, and by the original wording of the 2nd Amendment:
“The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; a well armed and well regulated militia being the best security of a free country.”

But liberals deliberately misrepresent the 2nd Amendment’s wording to argue that the Founders (who used armed revolution to overthrow the government) only actually supported the right of states to operate their own government-controlled militias, despite them being on the record emphatically stating the opposite. These would be the same Founding Fathers who made it a requirement that every citizen own a firearm at one point.

Liberals also cite examples of armed rebellions that were put down by George Washington as proof that our Founders never intended for us to be able to take up arms against federal tyranny. But this flies in the face of everything we know about the Founding Fathers, who talked routinely about refreshing the “tree of liberty” with the “blood of patriots and tyrants,” and who enthusiastically embraced such rights in no uncertain terms in the Declaration of Independence.

Yet again, like the rest of the Bill of Rights, the 2nd Amendment was drafted specifically to convince New York and Virginia that this new Federal Government we were creating would never be able to trample their Natural Right to self-rule as an armed, free people. The Founding Fathers had no illusions about the tyrannical inclinations of government, and they enshrined gun rights in the Constitution as a protection of the states and The People against the Federal Government for the clear and stated purpose of armed resistance to tyranny.

This is an undeniable fact that liberals simply choose to lie about non-stop…as with everything else they say about the Constitution.
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Great post.

The Heller decision put an end as to who can bear arms.

In District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008), the U.S. Supreme Court weighed in on gun control, ruling that the U.S. Constitution protects an individual's right to possess a firearm for personal, lawful use.
 
Earl said:
Great post.

The Heller decision put an end as to who can bear arms.

In District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008), the U.S. Supreme Court weighed in on gun control, ruling that the U.S. Constitution protects an individual's right to possess a firearm for personal, lawful use.
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Left out the part, liar, that says possession can be regulated.
 
Teflon Don said:
Constitution doesn’t say that so........

Trust me. Had there been armed people in that building, it would not have happened.

It’s funny my gun range has never been shot up by some deranged leftist like you. Wonder why that is?

Oh yeah. People in there can shoot back.
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You guys think someone crazy enough to shoot up a workplace is thinking about whether anyone there has guns. Do you really think that?
 
Centerleftfl said:
You mean not letting moms and dads get mowed down at WORK? How many kids did another pissed off GUY leave without a parent yesterday?

Yeah, you bet your ass I have minimum expectations of a deity imbued with benevolence and love. Or perhaps God has a different dictionary "you stupid fuck."
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But you don't seem to have that same expectations for people who have the initial responsibility and fail to recognize that free will can be used negatively also.
 
Adolf_Twitler said:
No asshole! My only hope is that he shot someone you care about!

Because just maybe, if anyone ever shoots someone you care about- perhaps GUN-TOTING idiots like you may have a change in heart about selling guns to just anyone who crawls up into a Gun Show.
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Prove that anyone who "crawls up into a Gun Show" have purchased a weapon.
 
domer76 said:
You can’t have an omniscient god and free will, pal.

You don’t pray for mass shootings to not happen? Why not?

Instead, you’ll do nothing about gun violence and, after the fact, keep up those worthless prayers.
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And why not; because you seem to be redefining what omniscient means??
 
archives said:
It don't mean a damn thing what political party the dimwit is from, only a deflection, the issue is guns, let me say it again, guns, too many out there and too easy access to them
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Then can you please explain why prior to so many gun regulations being put into place, there weren't numbers anywhere near shootings like are occurring and this was during a time when you could walk into a hardware store, exit with any weapon they sold, and no background checks??

I ask; because I've requested this knowledge from others and they seem to be unwilling or unable to explain it.
 
archives said:
"At least 11 people were killed after a gunman opened fire at a municipal building in Virginia Beach, Virginia, police chief James Cervera told reporters Friday night."

"Police also said there were multiple injuries but didn't describe the severity of those injuries."

https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/31/us/virginia-beach-shooting/index.html
https://www.ajc.com/news/national/a...inia-beach-courthouse/fPC9kXAJQEmCpcAr93AOKL/
https://www.kktv.com/content/news/V...ltiple-people-hurt-in-shooting-510681591.html

Just another day in America, it has become some common Americans have become desensitized, and the gun huggers will tell us the solution is more guns
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More law abiding citizens trained in firearms WOULD be nice, but the best solution is a better home life.

Too many people abandon traditional values for the allure of skanked out belief systems you degenerates have been peddling.
 
Teflon Don said:
Awww how cute. You are a bit late to the party. Shooter is a black democrat. Time to move onto another topic?

Think the OP will have the thread deleted. Will you delete your post?

You should read the news before you start posting dumb fuck. It will be much less embarrassing for you
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to be fair, he used to be a black democrat.......many blacks now support Trump, so he MIGHT have been a black Trump supporter......
 
archives said:
"earl" you don't know that, and can't assume it, and what is the acceptance "few," eight, six, three, whatever it is they are still innocent people slaughtered by a guy with a gun
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has there ever been a mass shooting in a place that wasn't "gun free"......
 
Centerleftfl said:
Maybe GOD is an NRA member.
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What does the NRA have to do with this shooting? I'd say God has a life membership in the NRA, complements of us members.
You don't see God or NRA members shooting innocent people, do you? You libtards have to blame someone, may as well be
responsible gun owners who belong to the largest private organization that teaches firearm safety and responsibility. We sure
wouldn't want you libtards blaming the idiot who broke existing laws, now would you?
 
archives said:
Doubtful, from my experience those carrying guns are more of a threat than anyone not packing. All the gun huggers see themselves as Chuck Norris and John Wayne when Barny Fife is more appropriate

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From your experience? What experience is that?
No, responsible gun owners don't see ourselves as some fictional movie character, that's a liberal lunacy.
 
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