Assad Bombs Same Town Again...trump Still A Flaccid Orange Buffoon.

Althea

Althea

Althea told me...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...a99da559f9e_story.html?utm_term=.a2841cc420c1
BEIRUT — Residents of the Syrian town devastated by a chemical weapons attack earlier this week said warplanes had returned to bomb them Saturday, despite a U.S. missile barrage and warnings of possible further response.
At least 86 people in the northwestern town of Khan Sheikhoun were killed Tuesday in a chemical attack that left hundreds choking, fitting or foaming at the mouth. Eyewitnesses and a monitoring group, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, said Saturday that fresh attacks on the area — now a virtual ghost town — had killed one woman and wounded several others.
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Looks like the ball is back in your court, you impotent little bitch.
 
residents cowered in bedrooms and basements throughout Saturday, underscoring the apparently unchanged threat they faced from the Syrian government’s arsenal of rockets, barrel bombs and other weapons that have resulted in a majority of the conflict’s half-million dead.
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i don't see chem weapons this time .
However, there were no reports of further use of chemical weapons.
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But that's the problem with singling out chem weapons -both Obama and now Trump think they are
somehow worse then barrel bombs or just bombs. dead is dead..

the war marches on and there isn't a Humpty Dumpty out there that can put Syria back together again
 
anatta said:
i don't see chem weapons this time .

But that's the problem with singling out chem weapons -both Obama and now Trump think they are
somehow worse then barrel bombs or just bombs. dead is dead..

the war marches on and there isn't a Humpty Dumpty out there that can put Syria back together again
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WMD = "vital national security interest"

Saddam has WMD's*. Saddam cannot be trusted with them. Saddam will either use them, give them to terrorists, or allow terrorists to acquire them through negligence or ineptitude. What will we do with Saddam?

Oops, I meant Assad.

*well maybe not
 
Element-22-Cat said:
WMD = "vital national security interest"

Saddam has WMD's*. Saddam cannot be trusted with them. Saddam will either use them, give them to terrorists, or allow terrorists to acquire them through negligence or ineptitude. What will we do with Saddam?

Oops, I meant Assad.

*well maybe not
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the airfield was "proportional response" - the problem indeed is "Iraq-like" if it goes any further.

If it's "sending a message" and somehow the world sees chem weapons worser then barrel bombs..
OK fine..
but getting entangled in Syria is another Iraq.
 
anatta said:
the airfield was "proportional response" - the problem indeed is "Iraq-like" if it goes any further.

If it's "sending a message" and somehow the world sees chem weapons worser then barrel bombs..
OK fine..
but getting entangled in Syria is another Iraq.
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We are potentially one bullet away from another war we can't control. Another war filled with dead bodies.

What happens when a Syrian soldier puts a bullet in the head of an American soldier?
 
anatta said:
the airfield was "proportional response" - the problem indeed is "Iraq-like" if it goes any further.

If it's "sending a message" and somehow the world sees chem weapons worser then barrel bombs..
OK fine..
but getting entangled in Syria is another Iraq.
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Proportional response based on what?

Trump gave two reasons. The poor dying kids was pathetic, everyone knows it, nobody cared before, they are being brutally killed in other ways, but yeah whatever.

But the main reason was the use of chemical weapons was now "a vital national security issue". But him killing his own civilians isn't a vital national security issue. He certainly didn't think it was back in 2013.

Striking a single air base doesn't change Assad's chemical weapon capability especially in regards to "national security".

So in terms of "vital national security", this was in no way a proportional response, it was extremely inadequate.
 
Element-22-Cat said:
Proportional response based on what?

Trump gave two reasons. The poor dying kids was pathetic, everyone knows it, nobody cared before, they are being brutally killed in other ways, but yeah whatever.

But the main reason was the use of chemical weapons was now "a vital national security issue". But him killing his own civilians isn't a vital national security issue. He certainly didn't think it was back in 2013.

Striking a single air base doesn't change Assad's chemical weapon capability especially in regards to "national security".

So in terms of "vital national security", this was in no way a proportional response, it was extremely inadequate.
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it was sending a message. It's not intended to change Assad's barrel bombs.
And I'm sure you are aware the other factions are just as culpable on the battlefield ( do you recall the crucifixions and heart eating of enemies by al-Nusra?). They all kill civilians, they all commit war crimes.

For some reason we ( and not just Trump - many world leaders) think chem weapons are a step too far.
Obama thought the same. His red lines meandering surely empowered Qods forces, and his arming of "Syrian rebels" was a manifest failure strengthening the Islamists

I personally think any involvement in Syria is setting us up for blowback.
I'm as concerned as you are we are going to get "sucked in".

But this? by itself is fine one way or the other -it's"what's next"that give me the chills
 
anatta said:
it was sending a message. It's not intended to change Assad's barrel bombs.
And I'm sure you are aware the other factions are just as culpable on the battlefield ( do you recall the crucifixions and heart eating of enemies by al-Nusra?). They all kill civilians, they all commit war crimes.

For some reason we ( and not just Trump - many world leaders) think chem weapons are a step too far.
Obama thought the same. His red lines meandering surely empowered Qods forces, and his arming of "Syrian rebels" was a manifest failure strengthening the Islamists

I personally think any involvement in Syria is setting us up for blowback.
I'm as concerned as you are we are going to get "sucked in".

But this? by itself is fine one way or the other -it's"what's next"that give me the chills
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Cos, I am harking back to the entire environment surrounding the Saddam WMD thing. In that case "Sending Saddam a message" was deemed wholly insufficient. The only option was regime change. Saddam had been sent many messages but if he still had WMD's, that wasn't enough.
 
blackascoal said:
Question: How much did this dog and pony show that accomplished nothing cost the American taxpayer?
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Meals on wheels.....can't spend that kind of money.

$60 million to show Assad there's a new sheriff in town.

Except Assad has dealt with much worse in his lifetime.

trump just backed himself into a corner that he cannot escape from. Now he's going to have to go to Congress, and ask for.......what exactly? Is he going to escalate, in direct conflict with Russia?

For once in his life, he'd do well to shut the fuck up, and hope this goes away.

Because nobody is going to tolerate $4/gallon gas this summer, just because we wanted to see what happens when you run the country like a failing corporation.
 
I'm avoiding the news on t.v, because I don't want to see the results of a sporting event from last night.


Any tweets today from the clown?
 
anatta said:
the airfield was "proportional response" - the problem indeed is "Iraq-like" if it goes any further.

If it's "sending a message" and somehow the world sees chem weapons worser then barrel bombs..
OK fine..
but getting entangled in Syria is another Iraq.
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Proportional response??

Wasn't your hero, Donald J. Drumpf, infamous for claiming Obama was weak because he wasn't bombing enough shit??



In your defense of your Orange Clown, do you even think about what you write?

The Syrians have been engaged in a war of annihilation for years. Drumpf blowing up a few aircraft hangers is not going to frighten or intimidate them one little bit..

The fact that the Syrian air force was flying out of the airfield mere hours after the Orange Clown bombed it was a message from the Syrians to Drumpf. They are saying his little "proportional" air strike did nothing, they are not intimidated, and they are making Drumpf look weak and flaccid. Especially since Drumpf's claim to fame was that he was going to bomb more shit and be more militaristic than Obama.
 
Cypress said:
Proportional response??

Wasn't your hero, Donald J. Drumpf, infamous for claiming Obama was weak because he wasn't bombing enough shit??



In your defense of your Orange Clown, do you even think about what you write?

The Syrians have been engaged in a war of annihilation for years. Drumpf blowing up a few aircraft hangers is not going to frighten or intimidate them one little bit..

The fact that the Syrian air force was flying out of the airfield mere hours after the Orange Clown bombed it was a message from the Syrians to Drumpf. They are saying his little "proportional" air strike did nothing, they are not intimidated, and they are making Drumpf look weak and flaccid. Especially since Drumpf's claim to fame was that he was going to bomb more shit and be more militaristic than Obama.
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you need to pay attention to events. The airfield was devestated. A few planes were not hit - but concrete underground hangers were collapsed -tooling and maintenance, fuel depot and other critical support was obliterated.
The air base is not functional ( and please don't tell me about runways) and is an important hub in the west ( Homs) The Russians reinforced all that -and the Tomahawks took it all out.

There are a lot of players beside Assad, and they all say it was significant -i say it was proportional.

Obama's problem was phantom red lines-much worse then doing nothing.
Judge Trump on his actions -so far so good
 
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