As democrats, I think it is now time to quit demanding that people get vaccinated

[Into the Night]

Yes, I believe an employer should, for most things, be free to make business decisions. A very scientific argument can be made to show that smokers (a choice) are less productive and cause an unhealthy environment.

No science here...move along...move along...

 

[Into the Night]

Why would it have to be a covid mandate? They have upheld plenty of vaccine mandates.

Evasion. Answer the question put to you. No vaccine can be mandated. Unconstitutional.

I dont recall a case saying you have a right to wear glasses, but I still feel very comfortable that right would be constitutionally protected.

Irrelevance fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

What part of " I believe an employer should, for most things, be free to make business decisions." did you not understand?

The Supreme Court is not a business. Evasion. Answer the question put to you.

 

[Into the Night]

Are you saying that the hospitals are not full of the unvaccinated?

They are not.

Then the doctors and nurses are lying?

No. YOU are.

They are effective.

Paradox V.

Nobody ever said they were 100 percent. They were advertised as 90 percent. That means it does not work on 1 in 10. That Is a lot of people.

Math errors: Failure to declare boundary. Failure to declare randX. Denial of probability math.

However, it apparently protects them from getting the worst cases that rightys seem to seek.

Paradox V.

 

[Into the Night]

you have been played again, sonny-

COVID-19 death rate in England much higher among ...https://www.politifact.com › oct › alex-berenson › covi...
Claim: In the United Kingdom, “70-plus percent of the people who die now from COVID are fully vaccinated.”
Claimed by: Alex Berenson
Fact check by PolitiFact: False

False authority fallacy. Attempted proof by circular argument fallacy (fundamentalism).

 

[Sailor]

if you compare it to your brain and smarter ass than you's brain, it is a highly developed brain, but to normal folks it is just a pimple on my ass. you dumbfuck geezer. but thanks for playing. by the way, hee haw reruns are on!!

This is what democrats consider intellectual.

 

[Jarod]

Evasion. Answer the question put to you. No vaccine can be mandated. Unconstitutional.

Irrelevance fallacy.

Why would it be unconstitutional?

 

[jbander]

Politifact is summarily dismissed on sight. You cannot use Politifact as a source with me. It is leftist propaganda.

That claim covered in Politifact is not the claim that I am making here... The claim that I am making here is that vaccinated people in the UK are dying at an over 2x rate than unvaccinated people in the UK are. This claim is based on the UK government's own "all cause mortality" data that is published here:

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopula...ths/datasets/deathsbyvaccinationstatusengland


A fairly intelligent person (Bart Kay) has also went through it, and his video on the matter (at least at the time of my posting) can be found here:

Politifacts is a great source , your the blind Q anon idiot. Its your facts that are the joke here.

 

[jbander]

Your link is not addressing what I am saying. You obviously can't think for yourself.

It addresses your nonsense completely, Your bogus crap is old worn out and proved wrong in so many ways. The stat your trying to Q-anon us with is bullshit and people know it .

 

[Matt Dillon]

Politifacts is a great source , your the blind Q anon idiot. Its your facts that are the joke here.

Oh? Who runs Politifact, dipshit?

Is it a Democrat group in Florida, or a Democrat group in Florida?

All Politifact serves to do is provide confirmation bias for the intellectually underdeveloped, weak, and lazy.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/tampa-bay-times/

^Who runs Politifact.

"Editorially, The Tampa Bay Times typically endorses Democratic candidates. For example, they have endorsed the Democratic Presidential Candidate every time since 1980. Further, in local elections, such as 2018, they endorsed all Democratic candidates."



They endorsed Carter in 1980!

 

[Hoosier Daddy]

Evasion. Answer the question put to you. No vaccine can be mandated. Unconstitutional.

Irrelevance fallacy.

IT HAS BEEN RULED CONSTITUTIONAL, BITCH, BY THE SUPREME COURT, THEREFORE IT IS. you have no idea how the constitution even works, jellyhead.

What the Supreme Court Has Said About Mandating Vaccines for School: Jacobson v. Massachusetts
March 5, 2019 Rene F. Najera
State and local governments in the United States have mandated immunizations as a prerequisite for attending public schools for quite some time. The Supreme Court has heard several challenges to these mandates and has consistently ruled the mandates to be constitutional.

In 1905, the Supreme Court ruled that a state can mandate vaccines, and accompany those vaccine mandates with a criminal fine for those not in compliance. More broadly, the court ruled that the state can impose “reasonable regulations” to protect the public health, even when such regulations interfere with individual rights. https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/197/11/

The Court said:

“…the principle of vaccination as a means to prevent the spread of smallpox has been enforced in many States by statutes making the vaccination of children a condition of their right to enter or remain in public schools. Blue v. Beach, 155 Indiana 121; Morris v. City of Columbus, 102 Georgia 792; State v. Hay, 126 N.Car. 999; Abeel v. Clark, 84 California 226; Bissell v. Davidson, 65 Connecticut 18; Hazen v. Strong, 2 Vermont 427; Duffield v. Williamsport School District, 162 Pa.St. 476.”

 

[Into the Night]

Why would it be unconstitutional?

I already answered this question. RQAA. See the Constitution of the United States and learn what a constitution is and what it does. Stop asking the same questions over and over. It's mindless. They've already been answered.

 

[Into the Night]

Politifacts is a great source , your the blind Q anon idiot. Its your facts that are the joke here.

Void argument fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

It addresses your nonsense completely, Your bogus crap is old worn out and proved wrong in so many ways. The stat your trying to Q-anon us with is bullshit and people know it .

Random buzzwords. No apparent coherency except to try to throw insults. No argument presented.

 

[Hoosier Daddy]

This is what democrats consider intellectual.

because they understand all the words. dumbfuck geezer hillbillies like you only can read the one syllable words, and not all of those. fuck you, geezer. and hee-haw is still on, dickhead.

 

[Matt Dillon]

because they understand all the words. dumbfuck geezer hillbillies like you only can read the one syllable words, and not all of those. fuck you, geezer. and hee-haw is still on, dickhead.

Oh? Who are the hosts of Hee-Haw now?

 

[Hoosier Daddy]

Oh? Who are the hosts of Hee-Haw now?

the same ones that were a long time ago. ever heard of re-runs? on some obscure cable channels they have them and you can also you tube them.

 

[Matt Dillon]

the same ones that were a long time ago. ever heard of re-runs? on some obscure cable channels they have them and you can also you tube them.

That would mean that Hee-Haw is NOT still on except in reruns.

 

[Hoosier Daddy]

That would mean that Hee-Haw is NOT still on except in reruns.

there are on some obscure cable channel, stupid fuck. and this dickhead probably has them on VHS tape. go fuck yourself, stupid.

 

[Into the Night]

IT HAS BEEN RULED CONSTITUTIONAL, BITCH, BY THE SUPREME COURT, THEREFORE IT IS.

The Supreme Court has no authority to change the Constitution. See Article III.

you have no idea how the constitution even works, jellyhead.

Inversion fallacy.

What the Supreme Court Has Said About Mandating Vaccines for School: Jacobson v. Massachusetts...

Irrelevant. The Supreme Court has no authority to change the Constitution.

Vaccines cannot be mandated. You are still ignoring Article I, Article III, and the 4th, 9th, 10th, and 14th amendments.