As democrats, I think it is now time to quit demanding that people get vaccinated

Hoosier Daddy said:
you are a fucking senseless idiot. you have to be alive before you can be killed, bitch. a fetus does not have sufficient brain and central nervous system to "alive" until AFTER all state limits on elective abortions have passed, you lying piece of shit bitch.
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but I have a link right here which proves the unborn are alive......
science totally and inarguably proves that alhttps://www.politifact.com/
 
Hoosier Daddy said:
you are stuck in the 50's, dickhead. commies are not all that scary anymore since they are almost all gone from the face of the earth. wake up, bitch.
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How stupid is he, No communist country has ever existed and you could put the Marxist, the communists and the socialist in this country in a thimble. This commie routine is the stupidest attack that the right has , they literally know nothing about it. There already is a definition of these 3 forms of government and they all say their idea what they are, is brain dead stupid. By the way we will never be a socialist country , capitalism as bad as it is is the only way.
 
jbander said:
How stupid is he, No communist country has ever existed and you could put the Marxist, the communists and the socialist in this country in a thimble. This commie routine is the stupidest attack that the right has , they literally know nothing about it. There already is a definition of these 3 forms of government and they all say their idea what they are, is brain dead stupid. By the way we will never be a socialist country , capitalism as bad as it is is the only way.
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capitalism is good. but there are going to be losers and those left behind. and their kids. and we have to have a large enough, compassionate enough, social safety net to deal with that fact. but for 90% of the people at least, capitalism gives you the best chance to work hard and excel, to rise up and grow with a company, or on your own, and it freaking works.
 
Callinectes said:
I’m not saying you’re completely wrong. I’m just saying I wish you would just shut the fuck up about it because yelling at people to get jabbed and constantly insulting them to the point that you’re wishing they would catch the wuflu and die just because of their political beliefs, well, it’s just not very motivational.

In fact, I’ve gotten to the point where I tell anyone who asks that I am not vaxxed. Along with some sniffles and a fake coughing fit, it seems to make them shut up and disappear. I’m getting my booster next week. I believe the vaccine is the best strategy FOR ME. I would never presume to tell anyone to just shut up and take some substance into their body because some senile old bastard of a “president” told me to. I certainly wouldn’t have got the shot if Trump had pulled the same thing. It’s insulting to listen to people who were anti-vaxxers when it was “Trump vaccines” telling us now that they are the only hope for the country.

Did you get your flu shot this year? 3 weeks after I got mine, I got the flu so bad I got tested for COVID. It’s all a crap shoot and nobody gets out alive, so be kind to people and if you can’t, just don’t say anything.
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Q anon , the people who don't get the shot are ass holes who think their rites are more important then the lives of my family and friends , screw them . It isn't even a rites issue to start with. By the way Q-anon, flew shots are 35% effective in the best cases , The vaccine for
Covid is around 94% effective. All you Q-anoners are full of bullshit.
 
dukkha said:
ya think? it was an Unconstitutional mandate.

Judge in La just put on a nationwide injunction against vaxx mandate for health care workers
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That in no way says it is unconstitutional , the mandate will be put into place one way or the other. Just watch hot shot.
 
gfm7175 said:
I'm guessing that you are not aware of the UK "all-cause mortality" data for January - September of this year showing that vaccinated people are dying at over twice the rate of unvaccinated people.
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Q anon crap, first vaccinated include Influenza and pneumonia and every vaccine that you can get.

3 Reasons UK Vaccination Data Might Raise Some Eyebrows – Updated
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M. Dowling -
October 27, 2021
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1.It Seems Like Vaccinated People Are Dying of All Causes 6-1 Over Unvaccinated. "Since this was published, significant errors were found in the ONS Data and that figure is inaccurate. " https://www.independentsentinel.com/uk-vaccination-data-might-raise-some-eyebrows/ Right wingers can't read but everyone else can find out how stupid his remarks are,
 
Hoosier Daddy said:
capitalism is good. but there are going to be losers and those left behind. and their kids. and we have to have a large enough, compassionate enough, social safety net to deal with that fact. but for 90% of the people at least, capitalism gives you the best chance to work hard and excel, to rise up and grow with a company, or on your own, and it freaking works.
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Here's the problem, wealth has been distributed through tax law (trickle down lie) since 81 literally no one has gained any of the vast new profits made during this period other then the golden few, all you have to do is look at a distribution of wealth chart and see something happened in 1981 that changed the complete distribution of wealth in this country(Reagan's Lie). What this lie did was take away the promise of the potential to get a head and that is the primer driver making capitalism the only way. It has to change
 
Jarod said:
What part of " I believe an employer should, for most things, be free to make business decisions." did you not understand?
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I don't at all believe that, Without gov regulation these corporations would be eating our children for the bottom line.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
perhaps because you made the claim in an argument about the enforceability of Biden's executive order regarding the covid vax mandate......at the very least, can you direct us to a SC decision upholding the constitutionality of vaccine mandates by executive order......which a lower court just decided was unconstitutional.......
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Maybe instead of your demand I find some narrow holding, you show me anything that prohibits a vaccine mandate? Something that overrules the "common good" powers of the Federal Government?
 
jbander said:
I don't at all believe that, Without gov regulation these corporations would be eating our children for the bottom line.
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I agree we need some regulations, we do not need Republicans issuing executive orders telling cruise lines they most accept unvaccinated passengers.
 
Hoosier Daddy said:
you have been played again-

COVID-19 death rate in England much higher among ...https://www.politifact.com › oct › alex-berenson › covi...
Claim: In the United Kingdom, “70-plus percent of the people who die now from COVID are fully vaccinated.”
Claimed by: Alex Berenson
Fact check by PolitiFact: False
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Politifact is summarily dismissed on sight. You cannot use Politifact as a source with me. It is leftist propaganda.

That claim covered in Politifact is not the claim that I am making here... The claim that I am making here is that vaccinated people in the UK are dying at an over 2x rate than unvaccinated people in the UK are. This claim is based on the UK government's own "all cause mortality" data that is published here:

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopula...ths/datasets/deathsbyvaccinationstatusengland


A fairly intelligent person (Bart Kay) has also went through it, and his video on the matter (at least at the time of my posting) can be found here:

 
jbander said:
Q anon crap, first vaccinated include Influenza and pneumonia and every vaccine that you can get.

3 Reasons UK Vaccination Data Might Raise Some Eyebrows – Updated
By
M. Dowling -
October 27, 2021
23


1.It Seems Like Vaccinated People Are Dying of All Causes 6-1 Over Unvaccinated. "Since this was published, significant errors were found in the ONS Data and that figure is inaccurate. " https://www.independentsentinel.com/uk-vaccination-data-might-raise-some-eyebrows/ Right wingers can't read but everyone else can find out how stupid his remarks are,
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Your link is not addressing what I am saying. You obviously can't think for yourself.
 
Jarod said:
Supreme Court says differently...
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The Supreme Court has no authority to change the Constitution.
Jarod said:
Why would a measure requiring employees of the Federal government to wear a mask for health and safety be unconstitutional?
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RQAA. I already answered this question. Stop asking it.
Jarod said:
Or is Unconstitutional just a word you throw out when you dont like something?
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Discard of the Constitution of the United States. Denial of republic.
 
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