Are you sure white supremacists are the problem?

Stop making certain drugs illegal. That would solve the problem.

I'd be fine with that if we simultaneously ended the welfare state. The more the population tends to get drugged up, the less productive it becomes. Portugal saw addiction rates rise after their decriminalization experiment.
 
I'd be fine with that if we simultaneously ended the welfare state. The more the population tends to get drugged up, the less productive it becomes. Portugal saw addiction rates rise after their decriminalization experiment.

Portugal is a great model!
 
Portugal is a great model!

When the idea was first presented, it seemed interesting, but now that we have about a decade of information showing the results, it's not exactly a success story.

I would post a link to what I'm talking about, but it appears that I don't have enough posts yet to do that. Just look up addiction rates in Portugal. Nearly every substance saw a rise after decriminalization, and some of them were quite dramatic.
 
When the idea was first presented, it seemed interesting, but now that we have about a decade of information showing the results, it's not exactly a success story.

I would post a link to what I'm talking about, but it appears that I don't have enough posts yet to do that. Just look up addiction rates in Portugal. Nearly every substance saw a rise after decriminalization, and some of them were quite dramatic.

https://time.com/longform/portugal-drug-use-decriminalization/
 
When the idea was first presented, it seemed interesting, but now that we have about a decade of information showing the results, it's not exactly a success story.

I would post a link to what I'm talking about, but it appears that I don't have enough posts yet to do that. Just look up addiction rates in Portugal. Nearly every substance saw a rise after decriminalization, and some of them were quite dramatic.
difficult to compare addiction rates to when it was illegal to now easily counted under decriminalization.
But the big win is for harm reduction to both the addicts and society, by legalization/decrim

and the drug cartels. etc
 
I understand that they favor this approach due to it encouraging people to seek treatment, but I like the Malaysian approach. Drug trafficking still happens there, but not as much as here, since those who are caught are killed.

Now I am curious.

BTW, this is turning into a good discussion.
 
difficult to compare addiction rates to when it was illegal to now easily counted under decriminalization.
But the big win is for harm reduction to both the addicts and society, by legalization/decrim

and the drug cartels. etc

It is true that legalization makes the recording of rates easier. Still, rates don't seem to be that high in countries that take an extremely harsh approach, like Malaysia.
 
One thing's for sure, we would have less of a problem with the border crisis had we delegalized, say, cocaine.
 
Now I am curious.

BTW, this is turning into a good discussion.

Thanks. In Malaysia, the amount regarded as "trafficking" is pretty low for most drugs, and since the penalty is death, you don't exactly have repeat offenders.

To clarify my earlier post, the "encouraging" reference was to your link about Portugal's policy. I don't think Malaysia's focus is on encouraging people to seek treatment. Their approach is to just discourage people from using (or selling) drugs in general.
 
One thing's for sure, we would have less of a problem with the border crisis had we delegalized, say, cocaine.

Most of the money made by cartels is in human trafficking. Legalizing or decriminalizing all drugs would reduce the value of most substances, but it wouldn't really affect the biggest moneymaker for cartels.
 
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