Are we finally out of the Obama economy?

Still a great non-answer answer.

I'd deduce from that what I'd deduce based on decades of American political history: with a few notable exceptions, the party out of power makes gains in the midterms.

One of the reasons I see the Dems picking up seats this year. Another is that Democrats have out-performed historical results - often by significant percentages - in every special election since Trump was elected.

I think disgust w/ Trump is real. I think Americans want checks & balances, especially now. I think liberals are more energized than they have been in many years, and that this can be gauged by the spike in candidate recruitment throughout the country since Trump was elected.

I have been telling liberals that it's okay to be happy about the economy. I think people can be pleased about how it's going, and still be dismayed by Trump and want to send a message about that at the ballot box. I'm thrilled about the economy, but also think there is an excellent chance of Dems retaking the House. I don't think those thoughts are mutually exclusive.

Excellent post, Darth.
 
But the dem’s 15 point lead in the generic ballot has evaporated.

They got burnt on the shutdown for putting illegal immigrants ahead of the budget and they basically lied about the tax bill with some of their over the top histrionics [Pelosi said people would die lol or something equally absurd] and the economy is doing well.

You’re saying democrats should just keep hammering at Trump?

Oh, dear - the generic ballot.

I didn't even blink an eyelash at that, or about Dems holding up the budget. You realize it's February, right? I don't expect any of that to affect the election one iota.

And absolutely - Democrats should keep hammering Trump. When hasn't that worked for the party out of power? It's basically all the GOP did for 8 years under Obama, and they won everything in sight.

I don't think that should be the ONLY strategy, of course, and it won't be. As the campaigns draw closer, the issues will become more of a focus, but Dems have a ton to work with there.
 
Oh, dear - the generic ballot.

I didn't even blink an eyelash at that, or about Dems holding up the budget. You realize it's February, right? I don't expect any of that to affect the election one iota.

And absolutely - Democrats should keep hammering Trump. When hasn't that worked for the party out of power? It's basically all the GOP did for 8 years under Obama, and they won everything in sight.

I don't think that should be the ONLY strategy, of course, and it won't be. As the campaigns draw closer, the issues will become more of a focus, but Dems have a ton to work with there.

Such as?

Republicans won under Obama because Obama’s policies sucked.
 
Such as?

Republicans won under Obama because Obama’s policies sucked.

Republicans won under Obama mainly because of Obamacare. It was clearly an overreach, and I think even Obama knew that at the time, but he saw it as a small window of opportunity and was willing to accept the consequences of that.

I think there is somewhat of a bubble that Trump supporters have been in regarding a few important issues, but as far as I know, many Americans still care about healthcare, the environment, education and equality, among other issues. And Trump has basically been a negative for all of those. If I was a Democrat, those would be the foundation of my campaign, and I'm sure you will see a lot of that this fall.
 
You provide excuses for the black President, NL. Not my fault you like the taste of his asshole. Pucker up.

Anytime you see a conservative have to resort to the personal attacks you know they got nothing, you know they are out of content, nothing further to offer, it is like the white towel hitting the canvas
 
Walmart has been giving steady raises, as well as bonuses. You forgot Trumps de-regulation that do take effect immediately. It's tough to measure but the GDP numbers look good

Walmart, giving raises, not tough coming up from next to minimium, while laying off thousands closing Sam's Clubs
 
Republicans won under Obama mainly because of Obamacare. It was clearly an overreach, and I think even Obama knew that at the time, but he saw it as a small window of opportunity and was willing to accept the consequences of that.

I think there is somewhat of a bubble that Trump supporters have been in regarding a few important issues, but as far as I know, many Americans still care about healthcare, the environment, education and equality, among other issues. And Trump has basically been a negative for all of those. If I was a Democrat, those would be the foundation of my campaign, and I'm sure you will see a lot of that this fall.

dear fucking idiot

The American people love Obama care

fuck you very much
 
Walmart, giving raises, not tough coming up from next to minimium, while laying off thousands closing Sam's Clubs

I was in a Walmart last night

the place was booming'

people everywhere

three cashiers

lines stretching down the aisles


why do they do that?


HIRE EVEN MORE
 
They did well, with next to zero inflation how could they do bad?

Are you kidding? They got crushed by low interest rates. This is a 2010 article. I bolded the relevant parts.



Federal Reserve policy helps companies, hurts retirees


The Federal Reserve’s latest move to help the U.S. economic recovery could punish pensioners and other long-term savers at the expense of helping large borrowers such as major corporations.

There’s also scant evidence so far to suggest that the move will help bring down unemployment, since U.S. companies are already benefiting from record-low borrowing rates while the jobless rate remains stuck near 10 percent.

The U.S. central bank on Wednesday committed to buy $600 billion more in government bonds to push borrowing costs down and stimulate growth. For details, see [ID:nN03287174]

As bond yields fall and interest rates remain low for the foreseeable future, investors are likely to struggle to earn income from savings without taking exposure to riskier assets.

They are crucifying the class of investors who invest in Treasuries, particularly the class of elderly or fixed income investors because it gives them no bang for the buck,” said Greg Habeeb, portfolio manager at Calvert Asset Management in Bethesda, Maryland.

“It’s a one-sided policy, its always a policy that favors the borrowers,” he said.

Yields on benchmark 10-year bonds have now fallen to 2.52 percent, after generating a return over 4.0 percent from 2005 to 2008 and over 6.0 percent in 2000.
Federal Reserve policy drives interest rates throughout the financial sector, and currently is aimed at preventing a fall in inflation from becoming a deflationary spiral of falling prices, wages, and slowing economic activity by flooding the financial sector with cheap money.

But low interest rates and bond yields resulting from Fed policy is bad news for investors living off interest income. They have already seen yields dwindle and now face the potential double blow of low returns and rising prices of necessities such as food and oil.

“Its a huge problem, particularly on the short-end, but that’s what the Fed wants people to do, it wants them to get out of cash,” said Mirko Mikelic, senior portfolio at Fifth Third Asset Management in Grand Rapids, Michigan.

Average annual total returns of money market funds, the most conservative investment, have plunged to only 0.04 percent from over 4.0 percent in 2006, according to Lipper.
Average returns on six-month certificates of deposit in the secondary market have fallen to 0.35 percent, compared with 1.74 percent at the beginning of 2009 and over 4.5 percent at the beginning of 2006, around the time Ben Bernanke was sworn in as Fed chairman, according to Fed data.

“People on fixed incomes could be in trouble particularly when the economy turns around. If we get in a period like the 1970s where inflation will surge, that will hurt people’s pocket books,” Mikelic said.

It’s also not clear when the flood of extra Fed money will end.

Goldman Sachs analysts said on Wednesday that they think high unemployment and the risk of deflation will cause the Fed its program even beyond the June 2011 target date set this week, with purchases likely to extend through at least 2012 and probably totaling around $2 trillion.

BIG COMPANIES GAIN

U.S. corporations, by contrast, have been key beneficiaries of the Fed monetary stimulus, with companies including Wal-Mart Inc (WMT.N), Ebay Inc (EBAY.O), Microsoft (MSFT.O) and PepsiCo Inc PEP.N selling debt at or near historically low coupons.

Coca-Cola Co (KO.N) was among a slew of issuers that were quick to take advantage of the post-Fed rally on Thursday. The company sold its largest ever debt offering of $4.5 billion, including a three-year tranche at one of the lowest interest rates ever in the high grade corporate bond market.[ID:nN04246734]

Companies which has issued high yield debt have also benefited and lower rates are likely to help them refinance around $1.1 trillion in below-investment-grade debt that will mature in the coming five years, according to Standard & Poor’s data.

Improvedments in corporate balance sheets however have so far failed to spur much investment and extra hiring.

Data released on Friday show that U.S. employment jumped by much more than expected last month, adding 151,000 jobs, though more improvement will need to be seen to show the economy is truly gaining strength.

Moody’s Investors Service said last month U.S. companies are hoarding almost $1 trillion in cash but are unlikely to spend on expanding their business or hiring new employees due to continuing uncertainty about the strength of the recovery.

“Low rates favor borrowers like companies that can issue cheap debt in the corporate bond market. People including homeowners can also benefit from the low rates,” said Eric Stein, portfolio manager at Eaton Vance in Boston.

However, “traditional fixed income investors like retirees are earning much less from their savings,” he added. And “the cost of buying food and oil is also rising as quantitative easing helps boost commodity prices.”


https://www.reuters.com/article/fed...ompanies-hurts-retirees-idINN0525953020101105
 
They did well, with next to zero inflation how could they do bad?

Another one:

It’s time for the Federal Reserve to help Americans reduce debt

""Fed policy has hurt Americans closer to retirement, too, because they typically hold a smaller portion of their savings in stocks, and so have not benefitted from rising asset prices. More importantly, retirees have lost their ability to live on savings. A decade ago, a five-year bank certificate of deposit could earn 4% annually. Today, those CDs earn less than 1%, a 75% reduction in safe income for seniors. Indeed, QE has squeezed the return on conservative fixed-income investments everywhere.""


https://www.marketwatch.com/story/i...erve-to-help-americans-reduce-debt-2016-11-02
 
I hate it

it doesn't work half the time and I prefer a person


it creates local jobs and supports my local economy
 
Another one:

It’s time for the Federal Reserve to help Americans reduce debt

""Fed policy has hurt Americans closer to retirement, too, because they typically hold a smaller portion of their savings in stocks, and so have not benefitted from rising asset prices. More importantly, retirees have lost their ability to live on savings. A decade ago, a five-year bank certificate of deposit could earn 4% annually. Today, those CDs earn less than 1%, a 75% reduction in safe income for seniors. Indeed, QE has squeezed the return on conservative fixed-income investments everywhere.""


https://www.marketwatch.com/story/i...erve-to-help-americans-reduce-debt-2016-11-02

its why we need good regulations in place and good programs in place to support workers and their families even after they are producing.


this world is about humans


more humans are NOT the one percent huh

by definition

lets create a world that provides a pleasant life for the humans that exist


meaningful work

work that you know all your life will sustain you even when you are old and frail.

its what mankind has done sense its existence


small groups of intertwined familys

groks mom is still alive

grok died last year killing the meat that supplied them through winter


the beast killed him but the beast didn't survive his attack.

groks mom cant chew the skins anymore

but she is the one who chewed skins of the furs you have worn all your adult life


you do what she needs to remain a part of the pack


she also still remembers the years of great weather and teach the children


its in our BLOOD to help each other


for MOST
 
Anytime you see a conservative have to resort to the personal attacks you know they got nothing, you know they are out of content, nothing further to offer, it is like the white towel hitting the canvas

Anytime you see a Liberal cover for the black President, you know they've finally realized skin color wasn't a qualification.
 
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