Are we better off with a discredited FBI?

Frank Apisa said:
So...in order to be a Trump toady...you are actually willing to suggest North Korea is a democratic republic!
Wow!
Like I said...I have learned how the people of the 1930's allowed Adolf Hitler to come to power.
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By your very own definition ... North Korea is the most Socialist country in the world, today. :palm:

Don't doubt me.
 
Bigdog said:
"The National Socialists provided a plethora of social welfare programs under Nazi’s concept of Volksgemeinschaft which promoted the collectivity of a “people’s community” where citizens would sacrifice themselves for the greater good. The NSV operated “8,000 day-nurseries” by 1939, and funded holiday homes for mothers, distributed additional food for large families, and was involved with a “wide variety of other facilities.”[36]

The Nazi social welfare provisions included old age insurance, rent supplements, unemployment and disability benefits, old-age homes, interest-free loans for married couples, along with healthcare insurance, which was not decreed mandatory until 1941"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Nazi_Germany
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Most if not all of those benefits have been provided by the Bundesrepublik for the past 60 years. The Christian Social Union has been a major player in German governments over that period. Are they socialists?
 
noise said:
"salacious and unverified" (Comey) on the Steele dossier..it was a political hit piece, that's all
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Steele was an experienced and highly regarded intelligence agent. That doesn't mean that all his information was correct (I doubt if he would claim that), but it does strongly suggest that his dossier was not a political hit piece, that's all.

But if Trump bleats "Fake news", that's proof?
 
Tranquillus in Exile said:
Most if not all of those benefits have been provided by the Bundesrepublik for the past 60 years. The Christian Social Union has been a major player in German governments over that period. Are they socialists?
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Are Islamic theocracies ... Socialist? :palm:
 
We're better off with a government accountable to the Constitution and rule of law. The rank and file know this, th e REMFs lost sight of it and theyre going away.
We will become stronger and safer as a result.
 
blackascoal said:
I'm talking about the racism of your party and the history it's currently writing.

'Racist history' is what you responded to.
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You know better than I I'm sure the history of the FBI towards the black community. So the idea that the black community finds it a discredited organization isn't a new one I'm sure
 
Tranquillus in Exile said:
Steele was an experienced and highly regarded intelligence agent. That doesn't mean that all his information was correct (I doubt if he would claim that), but it does strongly suggest that his dossier was not a political hit piece, that's all.

But if Trump bleats "Fake news", that's proof?
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You left out the part that Steele was desperate to prevent Trump from being elected. And also that he was paying his mortgage with help from the Clinton/DNC consortium.

Why wasn’t the FISA court made aware of these things?
 
Why are people acting surprised about what these racist white men are doing?

The racist right party has not changed since the civil war. They have been telling the American people what they wanted to do for decades. Americans let them.

They are allowed to lie, cheat and steal at will.. because they are white men.

They are the only people on the planet who get a pass for their violent, greedy, hateful behaviors.

Bush and Cheney murdered 1 million Iraqis and he's sitting at his million dollar ranch about to watch the Superbowl.

Americans did nothing to him, just like they won't do anything to dump.

Prisons and jails aren't made for these types of people.
 
Darth Omar said:
You left out the part that Steele was desperate to prevent Trump from being elected. And also that he was paying his mortgage with help from the Clinton/DNC consortium.

Why wasn’t the FISA court made aware of these things?
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and the fact the dossier was known to be unverified, but presented as proof of suspicion of Page
 
TTQ64 said:
Why are people acting surprised about what these racist white men are doing? The racist right party has not changed since the civil war. They have been telling the American people what they wanted to do for decades. Americans let them. They are allowed to lie, cheat and steal at will.. because they are white men. They are the only people on the planet who get a pass for their violent, greedy, hateful behaviors. Bush and Cheney murdered 1 million Iraqis and he's sitting at his million dollar ranch about to watch the Superbowl. Americans did nothing to him, just like they won't do anything to dump. Prisons and jails aren't made for these types of people.
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Aren't Comey, McCabe, Strzok and Mueller white devils, lil' ho?
 
Frank Apisa said:
I haven't given a definition...so that cannot be right.

What it is NOT...is a democratic republic. Which is the point of what I am saying. Stop moving the goal posts.

I don't "doubt" you, Dog. You are predictable as sunset.
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Founded and ruled by the "Workers Party of Korea" ... and all other parties are legally bound to abide by the Workers Party vote. :palm:

So you do NOT accept the economic definition of Socialism :palm:

And refuse to define it, yourself. :rofl2:
 
noise said:
and the fact the dossier was known to be unverified, but presented as proof of suspicion of Page
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You guys are already trying to cling to whatever scraps you can now.

This thing was way too hyped. In case you're taking notes, this is what a nothing burger actually looks like.
 
blackascoal said:
Although I'm not at all surprised by your gross lack of 12th grade historical knowledge, I'm also not at all interested in teaching it to you.

Thanks
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That is probably ... your best concession speech.

Thanks
 
Teflon Don said:
If said evidence was acquired under illegal means then it irrelevant.

What you fail to realize is that any hope you liberals had of impeaching Trump are officially over unless Mueller digs up conclusive unimpeachable evidence that Trump colluded with “the Russians”.

Even if Mueller tries a lame obstruction charge. Trump will not be impeached if the underlying investigation is found to be built on a lie even if Trump did obstruct
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To save face Mueller may attempt obstruction charges. Of course he’ll wait until after midterm elections hoping for a democratic take over of the house- if democrats don’t gain a majority, I expect the whole thing to go quietly away.

Meanwhile, the AG needs to go full-tilt-boogie pursuing a corruption case against actors involved in the wiretap scandal.
 
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