Are the Democrats trying to get Trump reelected?

Grumpy said:
Not one fucking thing you mentioned was accomplished by Trump's combativeness. He accomplished it by having a majority in congress. How much money did he get for the wall (which I agree with) with the Democrats in control of the House.

I disagree about Reagan. But you are welcome to your opinion.

Unlike many here I don't walk in lock step with either party. 24 years in the military taught me to do what I believe is right for the country.
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It got him elected. If you wanted a nice guy Jeb! was your man,until he got squashed byt he Hillary machine.


That combativeness is pushing back on the lies of fake news - again recall ho George Bush Jr did not ?
And it'sthat same tenacity that has us in difficult but eventually solvable trade talks, and hopefully a border wall which he would never gotten from the Dems in any way.
 
LV426 said:
Yes, we know you will vote for Trump regardless because he's a racist and you like that.
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Trump is not a racist. That is silly. Even if Trump weren’t around, I would vote for a dog before I would vote for any democrat. Democrats are the enemy of the United States. You all should be tried for treason and hanged.
 
noise said:
showe me a Dem that isn't insane with Trump Derangement Syndrome
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Since there is no such thing, it is easy. Truth is there are some very interesting Dem candidates. But many do not have a national notice. Local politicians have a long way to go.
Kamala is very bright, highly qualified and perhaps a good candidate. But she has to introduce herself to a lot of voters who barely know who she is.
Klobuchar is very good in the Senate and is well prepared and a good interrogator at Senate committees. Still not much national fame.
Sanders is well known because the Dems allowed him to run as a Dem. He is just too old. He is even older than chubby old Trump.
Biden is also too old. But he is a long time senator and knows the job.
Warren is the best candidate. She has a lifetime of service to the people emphasizing consumer rights. She is a serious politician who does her homework.She started the CFPB which was a great tool to protect the people from bank and credit card company malfeasance and abuse. Trump gutted that agency immediately.
 
noise said:
It got him elected. If you wanted a nice guy Jeb! was your man,until he got squashed byt he Hillary machine.


That combativeness is pushing back on the lies of fake news - again recall ho George Bush Jr did not ?
And it'sthat same tenacity that has us in difficult but eventually solvable trade talks, and hopefully a border wall which he would never gotten from the Dems in any way.
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I liked Jeb but there was no way another Bush could win. What got Trump elected is he went after the Joe six pack ordinary man vote. Hillary completely ignored that block and it cost her. YEA!!!!
 
noise said:
That combativeness is pushing back on the lies of fake news - again recall ho George Bush Jr did no
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"Is pushing".

Again, it's all in the present tense with Conservatives and Trump...constantly moving the bar and shifting goalposts as promise after promise fail to be met.


noise said:
d it'sthat same tenacity that has us in difficult but eventually solvable trade talks, and hopefully a border wall which he would never gotten from the Dems in any way.
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Your stupid trade war caused farm bailouts.
 
Grumpy said:
Not one fucking thing you mentioned was accomplished by Trump's combativeness. He accomplished it by having a majority in congress. How much money did he get for the wall (which I agree with) with the Democrats in control of the House.
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How is Trump responsible for the child like temper tantrum thrown by the Democratic Party of the Jackass?

Did it ever occur to you that if they want to be treated like adults, they should act like adults?

Grumpy said:
I disagree about Reagan. But you are welcome to your opinion.
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Those were not my opinions; they are FACTS and easily verified should you take the time to check.

Grumpy said:
Unlike many here I don't walk in lock step with either party.
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Who is asking you to? Certainly not me. I don't really care. I'm just laying out the FACTS.

Grumpy said:
24 years in the military taught me to do what I believe is right for the country.
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What is right for this country is exactly what is happening right now.

Our founders designed government to be dysfunctional; it is working exactly has designed. It is when it works perfectly you should be concerned. That is how we got Obamacare. Do you like Obamacare?
 
noise said:
It got him elected. If you wanted a nice guy Jeb! was your man,until he got squashed byt he Hillary machine.


That combativeness is pushing back on the lies of fake news - again recall ho George Bush Jr did not ?
And it'sthat same tenacity that has us in difficult but eventually solvable trade talks, and hopefully a border wall which he would never gotten from the Dems in any way.
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BRAVO! :clap:
 
LV426 said:
"Is pushing".
Again, it's all in the present tense with Conservatives and Trump...constantly moving the bar and shifting goalposts as promise after promise fail to be met.
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LV426 said:
Your stupid trade war caused farm bailouts.
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LIE and LAME. Of course, in moron land where you wallow, we should allow our trading partners to walk all over American goods and workers. Moron.
 
Nordberg said:
Since there is no such thing, it is easy. Truth is there are some very interesting Dem candidates. But many do not have a national notice. Local politicians have a long way to go.
Kamala is very bright, highly qualified and perhaps a good candidate. But she has to introduce herself to a lot of voters who barely know who she is.
Klobuchar is very good in the Senate and is well prepared and a good interrogator at Senate committees. Still not much national fame.
Sanders is well known because the Dems allowed him to run as a Dem. He is just too old. He is even older than chubby old Trump.
Biden is also too old. But he is a long time senator and knows the job.
Warren is the best candidate. She has a lifetime of service to the people emphasizing consumer rights. She is a serious politician who does her homework.She started the CFPB which was a great tool to protect the people from bank and credit card company malfeasance and abuse. Trump gutted that agency immediately.
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I do NOT WANT TO SEE either Warren or Klobuchar on the ticket top or bottom.

Biden is old, but my sister has managed to change my mind from a definite "no" to ..."wouldn't be a bad choice with Harris on the ticket in second spot." He could probably promise to stick to one term...and promise, if elected, to let everyone fight it out next election. (Not endorse Harris after his term.)

Landrieu from Louisiana is still my number 1 guy.
 
LV426 said:
We've had a globalized economy for a long, long time...centuries, even, if you're figuring things like the Dutch East India Company as globalist business.

The internet has connected the world, and there's no way you can put that genie back in the bottle.

Furthermore, what does reversed globalism look like? No international corporations? No importing or exporting? Every country just holds its resources for its own population? Is that what you mean by "anti-globalism"? Or is this going to be a figurative thing that you shift around within the parameters?




So then please, paint a picture for me what an anti-globalist policy looks like for the economy of the United States?
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communication is fine. but we can trade in a way that prioritizes any values we want.
 
AssHatZombie said:
communication is fine. but we can trade in a way that prioritizes any values we want.
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So you haven't really thought your position through, as this is really an ambiguous answer that doesn't address what was asked; what does an anti-globalized economy actually look like?

If you don't know, then you should figure that shit out before taking up an anti-globalist position. Because in all honesty, you sound like one of those Brexiteers who didn't actually fully understand what they were supporting.
 
Truth Detector said:
How is Trump responsible for the child like temper tantrum thrown by the Democratic Party of the Jackass?

Did it ever occur to you that if they want to be treated like adults, they should act like adults?



Those were not my opinions; they are FACTS and easily verified should you take the time to check.



Who is asking you to? Certainly not me. I don't really care. I'm just laying out the FACTS.



What is right for this country is exactly what is happening right now.

Our founders designed government to be dysfunctional; it is working exactly has designed. It is when it works perfectly you should be concerned. That is how we got Obamacare. Do you like Obamacare?
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How is Trump responsible for the child like temper tantrum thrown by the Democratic Party of the Jackass?
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Who says he is?

You were taught a different American history than I was.

This is the best form of government with built in safeguards to prevent
abuse.
 
LV426 said:
So you haven't really thought your position through, as this is really an ambiguous answer that doesn't address what was asked; what does an anti-globalized economy actually look like?

If you don't know, then you should figure that shit out before taking up an anti-globalist position. Because in all honesty, you sound like one of those Brexiteers who didn't actually fully understand what they were supporting.
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more local production. more shits given about workers. that's what it looks like. its not hard. so why is it impossible, because you're a sold out globalist shill?
 
AssHatZombie said:
more local production
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But less trade.

So you envision a world with fewer imports and exports, where countries just hoard their own natural resources and labor for their own benefits?

That would ruin Donald and Ivanka Trump, who rely on globalist business to keep their brand valuable.
 
Grumpy said:
Who says he is?
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You seem to imply he is. After all, you want him to just....get along....with the left. :laugh:

Grumpy said:
You were taught a different American history than I was.
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Really? So you were taught that it was the founders intent to ensure that Government worked well all the time and there would never be derision, divisiveness and tons of legislative goody's for everyone????

WOW!

Grumpy said:
This is the best form of government with built in safeguards to prevent abuse.
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Simplistic; it is a necessary evil that has been limited by the Constitution to ensure our liberty. That is why it is designed to not work well and have a separation of powers.
 
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