Are police systemically racist?

I<3Big Anime Tiddies said:
Yes, they did. That's the explicit rationale behind things like North Carolina and Michigans purchase permit system for handguns. Are you just pretending it isn't and that Jim Crowe laws weren't a thing?
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I'm not pretending anything.......just pointing out it isn't true that laws against crack cocaine are intentionally racially based......why the fuck are you pretending they are?........we have laws against crack because we don't want our citizens using crack.....we have laws against cocaine because we don't want them using cocaine.......we don't have laws against crack because we don't like blacks.......we don't permit people to use cocaine because we like whites....does Michigan's handgun purchase permit law say black people who use drugs can't have a handgun but white people who use drugs can?.....not familiar with that clause......nobody who uses drugs should get a permit......
 
Eagle_Eye said:
Having worked with Crime Stoppers I got to know police officers from all over. You are spot on, as many feel it is us versus them.
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I know, used to work in a county jail a couple decades ago. This is a good part of why we have our current situation.

Both police depts. and the people where they patrol have a part in the problem. If you are lackadaisical about voting, don't even know who your mayor is, then you can't cry too much if your city govt. doesn't represent your race and/or your concerns.
 
I<3Big Anime Tiddies said:
When you enforce laws and policies that are designed specifically to target minorities and/or the poor then yes, it is systemic. That's what the word means, the system is designed to produce that result.
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Laws regarding murder, assault, robbery, theft, burglary, gun control, traffic violations.....were designed specifically to target minorities? Why are so many white people charged, convicted, and imprisoned for these crimes?

Claiming those laws are aimed at minorities is very much an "us against them" mentality.
 
Flash said:
Laws regarding murder, assault, robbery, theft, burglary, gun control, traffic violations.....were designed specifically to target minorities? Why are so many white people charged, convicted, and imprisoned for these crimes?

Claiming those laws are aimed at minorities is very much an "us against them" mentality.
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I don't know if you have read much about Ferguson before the 2014 riots. The city's laws and policies *did* target the poor (which also happened to be majority black). The city came under fire after audits revealed that a large part of their revenue came from traffic citations. Tickets would pile up, then the non-payer was threatened with jail if he/she didn't cough up -- sometimes thousands of dollars. If you are living paycheck-to-paycheck, how do you suppose that you can afford a $100 ticket for a red light camera violation, or a burned-out tail-light, or a cracked windshield? Those are things that in other (i.e. whiter) neighborhoods would have gotten you maybe a warning at worst.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
I don't know if you have read much about Ferguson before the 2014 riots. The city's laws and policies *did* target the poor (which also happened to be majority black). The city came under fire after audits revealed that a large part of their revenue came from traffic citations. Tickets would pile up, then the non-payer was threatened with jail if he/she didn't cough up -- sometimes thousands of dollars. If you are living paycheck-to-paycheck, how do you suppose that you can afford a $100 ticket for a red light camera violation, or a burned-out tail-light, or a cracked windshield? Those are things that in other (i.e. whiter) neighborhoods would have gotten you maybe a warning at worst.
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Targeting is police conduct, not the laws written to reduce crimes.

If a city was using traffic laws to raise revenue they could do that with middle class white people as much as minorities. Some towns use traffic laws to raise revenues which have few or no minorities living there. In Texas the law prohibits a city from raising more than a certain percentage of its revenue from traffic fines and were aimed primarily at smaller towns with an interstate running through them. They raised lots of revenue from interstate traffic and avoided getting the locals mad for traffic fines and high taxes.
 
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