Sigh, yet more lies from you.
I should try being a pathological liar as you are?
I'll pass.
Are conditions on pretrial release unconstitutional?
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Sigh, yet more lies from you.
I should try being a pathological liar as you are?
I'll pass.
Freddy Figbottom
Was it me?
it's douchey and fucked up.
the rights of the state to a fair trial?
fuck that right in the concept.
I agree. The state has a massive advantage over the accused. Rights are to be preserved for the accused.
You have many choices of media including left and right-wing. Most people choose to watch (instead of read) the source that agrees with their ideological bias.
Certainly the public is not missing any important news by not viewing attacks on court staff members to protect them from threats and slander which are not protected under constitution free speech.
The "opposition" has not been silenced since court gag orders are not partisan. Maybe Trump should not engage in spreading false hate stories to appeal to MAGA supporters.
ExpressLane
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I have seen them do that.
Marcia Clark about OJ for one. But yes they have been besmirched if they were falsely accused. If the DA falsely accused YOU of sexual assault he would be besmiching your reputation.
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Where does the Constitution say its different with a violent crime?
Where does it say anything about gag orders?
t does not, but you say charges of violence make it okay to do what you consider violating the constitution.
ExpressLane
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Where in the Constitution does it say the state has a right to a fair trial?
Sadly, not true at all.
Virtually all "news" that the American public digest is regurgitated from a handful of sources. Associate Press, which is an adjunct of the democrat party. The NY Times - AKA the Voice of the Reich - pure party propaganda. DNCNN - pumped straight out of party headquarters. NBC - Propaganda from Communist China.
Then there is Fox, the token conservative source - that isn't conservative at all. They have a smattering of conservative TALK SHOWS, but the news on Fox is the same as that from CNN. They covered up the Hunter Laptop right along with all the other party propaganda sources.
Legitimate conservative news, such as OANN finds the might of the party crushing them - as they were deplatformed by Comcast (a government backed monopoly) and dish. There are pay services like Blaze - but that isn't the same as regular news.
America is allowed to see and hear only what the party wants America to see and hear.
You should take an introduction to law class.
I'm serious, it would greatly help you understand these issues.
Bail is mentioned once, and only once. This is in the Bill of Rights that your party has revoked.
{[h=2]Eighth Amendment[/h]
Eighth Amendment Explained
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.}Why so generic? Because the Constitution was written for a federation of 13 sovereign states. Criminal law is the domain of the states.
The Imperial dictatorship you and your party have established is not compatible with civil rights.
Freddy Figbottom
Was it me?
libertarians have become statist totalitarians now that they realize their beloved and morally perfect corporations are in control after all.
libertarians hate trump for calling out the stupidity of their globalist religion.
it's sad.
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Free speech has never been unconstrained. https://www.uscourts.gov/about-fede...ational-outreach/activity-resources/what-does The Supremes have addressed it several times. Trump is urging people to do violence to judges, jurors and prosecutors. Trump is the worst divider in American history.
The "party" wanted America to know the Hunter laptop story? It must have since it was reported in hundreds of media sources. Those sources that delayed covering the story did so because they had no access to the laptop the NY Post was concealing. Anybody making any effort to read knew about the story.
The party censored and suppressed the facts about the Hunter laptop. The FBI and NSA coerced and colluded with social media to hide and obfuscate the facts.
It was reported by the NY Post - with the party springing into action along with the FBI and NSA to cover up and censor the story. Because the FBI, NSA, and the Media are all just extensions of the party.
QP!
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So you now admit Judges CAN take away rights from people pre trial but you just switched to an argument of it only being ok for Violent offenses.
Can you provide where it says ANYWHERE that judges are only limited to restricted to that for violent offenses now we AGREE that Judges DO HAVE THAT POWER?
QP!
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You are the one saying it is ok for Judges to restrict rights for violent offenders, so where does it say that? Or better yet where does it say that they are limited to only that?
QP!
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This is just another topic where the left has to educate right derps on how the Constitution works as right derps are hopelessly dumb on all topics law and the Constitution.
The ENTIRE process of being charged with a serious crime begins a process of the gov't placing restrictions on your Constitutional rights.
- From the initial arrest you are still presumed innocent and yet they can force you come in for booking which they could not do with anyone not accused of the crime
- from the hearing and Bail stage, they can force you to participate in the process, despite your presumed innocence and if you do not, you will be held pending trial. This CAN and DOES many restrictions (no crossing State lines, no leaving the Country, no speaking to other defendant/witnesses, etc, etc,) which the accused must voluntarily agree to, despite their presumed innocence.
And this list goes on. It IS normal and the courts have found it Constitutional.
Right derps are dumb. It is their fatal flaw and why they always lose. So they read the above and do not comprehend it. And ironically they are historically ones to celebrate these pre trial restrictions and detentions and to want them to be ever more severe. But as Trump is now subject to them suddenly they have a problem with them.
Irony much.
The ENTIRE process of being charged with a serious crime begins a process of the gov't placing restrictions on your Constitutional rights.
- From the initial arrest you are still presumed innocent and yet they can force you come in for booking which they could not do with anyone not accused of the crime
- from the hearing and Bail stage, they can force you to participate in the process, despite your presumed innocence and if you do not, you will be held pending trial. This CAN and DOES many restrictions (no crossing State lines, no leaving the Country, no speaking to other defendant/witnesses, etc, etc,) which the accused must voluntarily agree to, despite their presumed innocence.
And this list goes on. It IS normal and the courts have found it Constitutional.
Right derps are dumb. It is their fatal flaw and why they always lose. So they read the above and do not comprehend it. And ironically they are historically ones to celebrate these pre trial restrictions and detentions and to want them to be ever more severe. But as Trump is now subject to them suddenly they have a problem with them.
Irony much.
The Post is a tabloid that publishes many phony stories. If you think you Post was the only source publishing the laptop story you failed to use the hundreds of other available sources. Nobody had any problem finding stories. The Hunter Biden story was for people who don't want to take the time to read real news.