Are Americans dumb?

Peter Meyer
lived for many years in the U.S. where he worked as a computer programmer and software developer. He is the author of this website and began it in 1996 (it was like a blog, long before blogs were invented). From its earliest beginnings it has had sections on Maria Callas, Psychedelics, Censorship, the "War on Drugs", Ganesh Baba, the Waco Massacre, Liberty & Democracy, William Bramley's book The Gods of Eden, and the CIA. Over the course of nearly 16 years new sections were added and also many articles by him and others, especially by the writers mentioned below.
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LMAO... wow... a computer programer and software developer is who you think is capable of debunking aviation, engineering and military experts who contributed to the PM piece?
 
bravo said:
Now tell us who did it.....why they did it.....EXACTLY how did they wired the buildings.......get the Arab terrorists to cooperate.....all in secret....

Its ludicrous.......to entertain that kind of bullshit borders on insanity........or enough hate for your country as to deny logic....
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Logic??? :0)

You mean like giant buildings that fall straight down at near free-fall speed into their own footprints .. which is contrary to all known science????

:0)

Hate my country???

:0) Is that all you got?

Hate my country bullshit???

How about you try your hand at the really simple science instead of a patriotic temper tantrum.

Can't do it, eh?

That's too bad.
 
Superfreak said:
LMAO... so you have 'Peter Meyer' as your standard bearer? who is he? What is his background that he debunks the Popular Mechanics Article?



Tell us, where did good old Peter get his info? What are his qualifications? you dismiss PM with no regard for who they interviewed. Are you suggesting that they found 70 professionals in various fields that all lied?
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:0)

Yes, please ignore the fact that your PM article was just completely DEBUNKED by the air traffic controllers who TRACKED the planes. :0)

Cognitive dissonance is a powerful mindfuck.
 
blackascoal said:
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Yes, please ignore the fact that your PM article was just completely DEBUNKED by the air traffic controllers who TRACKED the planes. :0)

Cognitive dissonance is a powerful mindfuck.
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Where did the Air Traffic controllers debunk the entire article?

Please ignore the fact that you are presenting the ramblings of a computer programmer over 70 experts in their respective fields.
 
Darla said:
Yeah!

<he is however completely qualified to "debunk" the big climate change "hoax">

Pot, kettle.
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More emotional responses from dearest little Darla. I have not debunked the climate change fear mongers. The actual data, which has been provided by actual experts is what has debunked them. But do go on with your emotional outburts dear little Darla. We know you are, much like Jarod, a liar. So do go on with your rants.
 
Superfreak said:
More emotional responses from dearest little Darla. I have not debunked the climate change fear mongers. The actual data, which has been provided by actual experts is what has debunked them. But do go on with your emotional outburts dear little Darla. We know you are, much like Jarod, a liar. So do go on with your rants.
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Put the mirror down and have your private moment in private Superfreak.
 
For the morons: I wasn't talking about ATC, I was talking about air weapons controllers, who control all fighter missions, telling the pilots where to go, what to do, when they may sneeze, etc. Fighter pilots do nothing unless directed by an AWO, except to defend themselves. Back then, AWOs, their section leads, their mission commanders, etc., did not have the kind if engagement authority needed to prevent the attacks. They were also using crappy radar systems, and nor worried about aircraft of US and Canadian origin.

Go ahead and spin your government stories, but shut up about NORAD complicity.
 
Paranoid Android said:
For the morons: I wasn't talking about ATC, I was talking about air weapons controllers, who control all fighter missions, telling the pilots where to go, what to do, when they may sneeze, etc. Fighter pilots do nothing unless directed by an AWO, except to defend themselves. Back then, AWOs, their section leads, their mission commanders, etc., did not have the kind if engagement authority needed to prevent the attacks. They were also using crappy radar systems, and nor worried about aircraft of US and Canadian origin.

Go ahead and spin your government stories, but shut up about NORAD complicity.
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I posted the NORAD info showing that they did not track commercial aircraft within the US until after 9/11. It has been quiet since... well, with the exception of Darla spazzing on the board.
 
Superfreak said:
I posted the NORAD info showing that they did not track commercial aircraft within the US until after 9/11. It has been quiet since... well, with the exception of Darla spazzing on the board.
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First, you have yet to utter a peep about the debunking of your own PM article .. debunked by the very ATC who tracked the planes.

Not a peep from you about it.

Secondly ..

Payne stewart jets scrambled { October 26 1999 }
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Troubled plane shadowed by military jets

An Air Force spokesman says two U.S. Air Force F-15s from Eglin Air Force Base, Florida, intercepted the plane shortly after it lost contact with aircraft controllers, and followed it to Missouri.

Pilots reported the plane's crew was "non-responsive" and that the cockpit windows were obscured by condensation or frost, an indication the aircraft may have lost cabin pressure.

Over Missouri, four F-16s from an Air National Guard unit based in Fargo, North Dakota, took over the escort mission, and stayed with the plane until it crashed.

The Air Force says additional F-16s were also scrambled from the Oklahoma Air National Guard unit in Tulsa, but were not used because the Fargo planes arrived first.
http://newsmine.org/content.php?ol=9-11/norad-faa-response/payne-stewart-jets-scrambled.txt

Prior to 9/11, NORAD intercepts were directed offshore .. but to suggest that there were no military intercepts on American soil is clearly untrue .. as is any notion that the military could not have responded to 9/11.

Who has blamed NORAD? What I posted was the change of command orders where lethal force is required just 3 months before 9/11. That does not blame NORAD, it raises the question of why those orders were changed.

Third, NONE of you swallowers of the fairy-tale has answered a single question no matter how simple it may be. NONE of you want to talk about the science.

Let me try this again .. what happens to falling mass when it encounters equal or greater mass?

Why would you need "experts" or Popular Mechanics to answer a simple question that 3rd graders could answer?

I intend no disrespect brother .. but the notion that one would have to somehow be "unpatriotic" or a lunatic to asks critical questions of their government is just mindless. There is something wrong with me because I believe in science?
 
Superfreak said:
No. I don't tend to jump on line at home and I cannot watch the videos while at work. Any chance someone has text of his comments? Or can you just give me the gist of it?
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The gist of it is that the official story of 9/11 is a hoax. If you are truly interested in the truth, you should take the time to listen to Bowman .. who can hardly be called looney.
 
blackascoal said:
The gist of it is that the official story of 9/11 is a hoax. If you are truly interested in the truth, you should take the time to listen to Bowman .. who can hardly be called looney.
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I don't buy any of the stuff about controlled demolitions etc as it is just too outlandish but it is certainly hard to ignore what Bowman has to say. He is a guy who has been on the very inside of government at the highest levels.
 
Darla said:
You better stick to "Climate Change is a hoax" when you are talking to SF. He doesn't cotton to this other stuff. He's going to start a big thing now. You better get some climategate shit from dikipedia or something and get ready to sweet talk him.
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Dikipedia, isn't that your favourite go to reference site?
 
Paranoid Android said:
For the morons: I wasn't talking about ATC, I was talking about air weapons controllers, who control all fighter missions, telling the pilots where to go, what to do, when they may sneeze, etc. Fighter pilots do nothing unless directed by an AWO, except to defend themselves. Back then, AWOs, their section leads, their mission commanders, etc., did not have the kind if engagement authority needed to prevent the attacks. They were also using crappy radar systems, and nor worried about aircraft of US and Canadian origin.

Go ahead and spin your government stories, but shut up about NORAD complicity.
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I wonder who keeps reading after "for the morons"....
 
Aoxomoxoa said:
I don't buy any of the stuff about controlled demolitions etc as it is just too outlandish but it is certainly hard to ignore what Bowman has to say. He is a guy who has been on the very inside of government at the highest levels.
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Name something .. ANYTHING .. that looks like a controlled demolition that isn't. It was exactly what it looked like.

You are right about Bowman .. and he has lots of company in former CIA, FBI, military and terrorism experts who also do not believe the official story.
 
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