Anti-Vax Flat Earth Preacher Dies of COVID-19

When did I say one death was unacceptable? Your straw man isn't really much of an argument. Did it make you feel good to kick the heck out of it? It certainly didn't make you look smart by doing it.

Your claims about the vaccine causing deaths is specious and unsupported by any facts. Because you don't like that I pointed that out using actual numbers doesn't mean your argument wasn't specious. The deaths from 380,000,000 shots is less than is to be expected in the same population that didn't get the shots. On the other hand, the deaths from those that got Covid is higher than the population in general.

Out of the couple hundred MILLION does of vaccines administered in this country, only three deaths can be linked to a vaccine. Those 3 were blood clots from the J&J vaccine. ZERO attributed to the others.

Yet, this idiot keeps posting graphs from VAERS to try to claim there were 15,000+ deaths from the vaccines.

It just demonstrates the massively willful, and dangerous, ignorance these people exhibit.
 
In 75 days we should have seen 487,500 deaths based on the average death rate in the US. The fact that you are claiming only 15,937 died within 75 days of getting the shot would mean that the vaccine saved 471,563 lives. That seems like a good thing to me.

His 15,000 deaths are REPORTED deaths to VAERS. Only 3 from the J&J have been confirmed. There is NO LINK on the remainder.

That’s been pointed out to Stretch multiple times. He is both a liar and incredibly stupid.
 
A willfully ignorant and childish response. Let me educate you on something:

1. Anti-vaxxers are people who are against any and all vaccinations at any age....they are a relatively small part of the population. People who have legitimate questions and can find factual and logical flaws in the declarations of the medical powers that be (mostly contradictions in their own public released papers) are NOT against any and all vaccines. then you have the rabid anti-gov't types who are against the federal gov't in general, coupled with the "deep state" conspiracy folks, who are now actually seeing some vestiges of their paranoia come to light.
All anti-vaxxers are not against all vaccinations. All anti-vaxxers claim that they are basing their opposition based on facts and/or logical flaws in the declarations of medical powers. The problem is that most of their complaints including the complaints against the Covid vaccine are not really based on facts but instead are based on cherry picked data or completely made up 'facts'.
2. The Covid shots are NOT vaccines, but experimental gene therapy that artificially kick starts your immune system to respond to a SPECIFIC virus. This is why you "need" 2nd and 3rd shots within less than a year...because it's NOT fully utilizing your own immune system to deal with the dead cells of the virus and permanently create anti-bodies. Hell, I once had to get a tetnus shot for stepping on a rusty nail....didn't need another for 5 years if it happened again.
This would be a good example of someone opposed to the Covid vaccine making claims as to why they are against it but their claims have no basis in reality. Gene therapy occurs when the genes of the cells are altered. No such thing occurs with any of the Covid vaccines so the argument is false. The Covid vaccines work the same way all vaccines do. It provides a way for the human body to recognize an invader and respond to it.

A virus is not a cell and doesn't have a cell structure. That is why it is a virus and not a bacteria. Not knowing how a virus works is not a valid reason to argue against the vaccine.

The ability of the body to create a lifelong response to a virus varies. It doesn't prove the vaccine is no longer a vaccine. The fact that a tetanus vaccine only lasts 5 years should make that clear to you. For you to argue that a vaccine that gives protection for 8 months is not a vaccine but one that gives protection for 5 years is a rather arbitrary argument. What time frame is required for protection before it is no longer a vaccine? The flu vaccine has less than a year of protection.

3. Kid, you want to get the shot(s), then God be with you. As for me, it would seem that it depends on which state gives you a choice....some are going the "no jab, no job" route....got to wonder how long that will last before all hell breaks loose.
And the band played on.
It certainly seems you aren't going to base your decision on the actual facts as you have already promoted at least 3 specious arguments.
 
His 15,000 deaths are REPORTED deaths to VAERS. Only 3 from the J&J have been confirmed. There is NO LINK on the remainder.

That’s been pointed out to Stretch multiple times. He is both a liar and incredibly stupid.

My favorite part of the VAERs reporting is the dozen 80 year old women and at least 3 men where the vaccine caused birth defects within a couple of months.
 
Possibly. One common denominator, however. Trumpers. Unable to differentiate the truth from lies.

Which is insane. https://dictionary.law.com/Default.aspx?selected=979

Insanity. n. mental illness of such a severe nature that a person cannot distinguish fantasy from reality, cannot conduct her/his affairs due to psychosis or is subject to uncontrollable impulsive behavior.

Those poor bastards need help, not prison but all We, the People have to offer is prison so to prison they must go.
 
Folk like you love to call names, parrot talking points without substantiation and squawk supposition and conjecture as if it's fact.

Here, for your education from the recent past:

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-...-keeping-covid-breakthrough-cases-under-wraps


https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucel...kthrough-covid-19-infections/?sh=118d59c36993

I said over 95% of the deaths from covid are among the unvaccinated. Read the articles you posted because they cite more than 95% of the deaths are among the unvaccinated. You must be a blithering idiot.
 
learn to read comprehensively, genius. the 2 states I should you register hospitalizations and deaths that well EXCEED 750. Get off your flabby brain and do some honest research for the other 48 states. Mind you, we're not talking hefty percentages compared to the vaccination rate, but when you start getting into the thousands, the medical community usually raises a red flag...like they did when Covid deaths first hit the USA.

Now, either do your homework or stop wasting the readers's time with your childish BS.

The fact remains, well over 95% and closer to 99% of the deaths today from covid are among the unvaccinated. That alone proves that those who are not vaccinated by now are morons.
 
No genius, it proves your mypoic reading comprehension skills and inability or unwillingness to fully comprehend what you read. Here' how I explained it to one of your compadres:

I posted this article to demonstrate the duplicity in holding the bottom line:


An analysis by The Hill found that 35 states have disclosed some data on fully vaccinated people who later contracted COVID-19.

Figures on breakthrough cases are not available on the health department websites, social media or other publicly accessible sites for the other 15 states: Florida, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Minnesota, Missouri, Nevada, New Hampshire, New York, North Dakota, Ohio, Pennsylvania, South Dakota, Texas and Wisconsin.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) stopped monitoring nonsevere breakthrough cases in May.

Some states have followed the CDC in publicly reporting breakthrough hospitalizations and deaths but not the total number of cases.


So basically, the summations that you so condescendingly quote are ESTIMATES by the author, as he admittedly does NOT HAVE ALL THE DATA TO MAKE SUCH A CLAIM THAT WOULD APPLY TO ALL 50 STATES. Yet he does at the end.

Add this to my other link, and you should (hopefully) get the picture.

God bless critical thinking and comprehensive reading.

Carry on.

No I still do not get your picture. You are citing a miniscule amount of cases where someone was vaccinated and succumbed to Covid while 99% of those dying from it are unvaccinated. You are arguing against the vaccine? You truly are an idiot.
 
All anti-vaxxers are not against all vaccinations. All anti-vaxxers claim that they are basing their opposition based on facts and/or logical flaws in the declarations of medical powers. The problem is that most of their complaints including the complaints against the Covid vaccine are not really based on facts but instead are based on cherry picked data or completely made up 'facts'.
This would be a good example of someone opposed to the Covid vaccine making claims as to why they are against it but their claims have no basis in reality. Gene therapy occurs when the genes of the cells are altered. No such thing occurs with any of the Covid vaccines so the argument is false. The Covid vaccines work the same way all vaccines do. It provides a way for the human body to recognize an invader and respond to it.

A virus is not a cell and doesn't have a cell structure. That is why it is a virus and not a bacteria. Not knowing how a virus works is not a valid reason to argue against the vaccine.

The ability of the body to create a lifelong response to a virus varies. It doesn't prove the vaccine is no longer a vaccine. The fact that a tetanus vaccine only lasts 5 years should make that clear to you. For you to argue that a vaccine that gives protection for 8 months is not a vaccine but one that gives protection for 5 years is a rather arbitrary argument. What time frame is required for protection before it is no longer a vaccine? The flu vaccine has less than a year of protection.

It certainly seems you aren't going to base your decision on the actual facts as you have already promoted at least 3 specious arguments.

1. Remember, the MSM that his heavily sponsored by Big Pharma has conflated the definitions: like it or not, there is a core group of people who are against any and all vaccinations, preferring non-pharmaceutical approaches to strengthening a child's immunity to various diseases. They do so by pointing out various aspects in medical science that support them in lieu of documentation of adverse effect percentages for kids and adults. The second group I mentioned are about fixing the vaccination regime to a level that children can tolerate and to eliminate ingredients that are not needed due to high possibility of toxicity (this came about during the rising cases of autism in children across the country). For adults, they point to contradictory information on the "success" of the Covid vaccinations.

2. right off the bat you make an ASSUMPTION that contradicts reality and essentially put words in my mouth (or on my keyboard, so to speak). Reality check: the basis for testing a person for the Covid virus is severely flawed, as it's creator stated for years that it was NOT designed to diagnose disease that is making a person sick. And I never stated that the virus was a cell, now did I? I pointed to the FACT that the current basis for all the Covid vaccines is to manipulate your system to artificially heighten (spike) response specifically to one particular virus...that is a genetic manipulation, no matter how temporary or low level. THIS HAS NEVER BEEN THE CASE WITH ALL PREVIOUS VACCINATIONS. Any doctor worth his salt can tell you how long what specific vaccine TRADITIONALLY works. Flu shots, by the way, are geared each year for the particular strain that is going around, which is why you had the Tamiflu incident a few years back, where the shot was ineffective against one year's flu strain which was similar to the previous year. If you can name a vaccine where the "booster" was required in less than 6 months prior to Covid, let me know and we can discuss that.

3. It certainly seems that you think rattling off the status quo mantras while ignoring certain historical aspect and what I actually write legitimizes your arrogant confidence and condescending attitude. Not surprising.
 
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Folk like you love to call names, parrot talking points without substantiation and squawk supposition and conjecture as if it's fact.

Here, for your education from the recent past:

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-w...es-under-wraps


https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucele...h=118d59c36993

I said over 95% of the deaths from covid are among the unvaccinated. Read the articles you posted because they cite more than 95% of the deaths are among the unvaccinated. You must be a blithering idiot.

I know what you said, genius.....unfortunately both articles point to information that does not support your parroted number, as they DOCUMENT THE FACT that the information available is incomplete and wrought with inaccuracies.

But let me put a quick end to your blathering ... please provide the sentence or paragraph quote...cut & paste from either or both articles that state what you say here in no uncertain terms. Mind you, no out of context quotes followed by your personal supposition and conjecture. Put up or shut up.
 
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No genius, it proves your mypoic reading comprehension skills and inability or unwillingness to fully comprehend what you read. Here' how I explained it to one of your compadres:

I posted this article to demonstrate the duplicity in holding the bottom line:


An analysis by The Hill found that 35 states have disclosed some data on fully vaccinated people who later contracted COVID-19.

Figures on breakthrough cases are not available on the health department websites, social media or other publicly accessible sites for the other 15 states: Florida, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Minnesota, Missouri, Nevada, New Hampshire, New York, North Dakota, Ohio, Pennsylvania, South Dakota, Texas and Wisconsin.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) stopped monitoring nonsevere breakthrough cases in May.

Some states have followed the CDC in publicly reporting breakthrough hospitalizations and deaths but not the total number of cases.

So basically, the summations that you so condescendingly quote are ESTIMATES by the author, as he admittedly does NOT HAVE ALL THE DATA TO MAKE SUCH A CLAIM THAT WOULD APPLY TO ALL 50 STATES. Yet he does at the end.

Add this to my other link, and you should (hopefully) get the picture.

God bless critical thinking and comprehensive reading.

Carry on.



No I still do not get your picture. You are citing a miniscule amount of cases where someone was vaccinated and succumbed to Covid while 99% of those dying from it are unvaccinated. You are arguing against the vaccine? You truly are an idiot.

Whoa! Now the wheels come off your wagon! YOU parrot a line that you have not provided one shred of documentation to support, then you label FACTS that demonstrate only 35 states are complying with statistical data on this subject...and some of those are not wholly accurate or complete. 15 states are MIA on this...but because that pokes a logical whole in your belief system, it's "miniscule"?

GMAFB!. You've just topped willful ignorance with a new level of absurdity in insipid stubbornness!

Typical MAGA minion. Carry on.
 
1. Remember, the MSM that his heavily sponsored by Big Pharma has conflated the definitions: like it or not, there is a core group of people who are against any and all vaccinations, preferring non-pharmaceutical approaches to strengthening a child's immunity to various diseases. They do so by pointing out various aspects in medical science that support them in lieu of documentation of adverse effect percentages for kids and adults. The second group I mentioned are about fixing the vaccination regime to a level that children can tolerate and to eliminate ingredients that are not needed due to high possibility of toxicity (this came about during the rising cases of autism in children across the country). For adults, they point to contradictory information on the "success" of the Covid vaccinations.

2. right off the bat you make an ASSUMPTION that contradicts reality and essentially put words in my mouth (or on my keyboard, so to speak). Reality check: the basis for testing a person for the Covid virus is severely flawed, as it's creator stated for years that it was NOT designed to diagnose disease that is making a person sick. And I never stated that the virus was a cell, now did I? I pointed to the FACT that the current basis for all the Covid vaccines is to manipulate your system to artificially heighten (spike) response specifically to one particular virus...that is a genetic manipulation, no matter how temporary or low level. THIS HAS NEVER BEEN THE CASE WITH ALL PREVIOUS VACCINATIONS. Any doctor worth his salt can tell you how long what specific vaccine TRADITIONALLY works. Flu shots, by the way, are geared each year for the particular strain that is going around, which is why you had the Tamiflu incident a few years back, where the shot was ineffective against one year's flu strain which was similar to the previous year. If you can name a vaccine where the "booster" was required in less than 6 months prior to Covid, let me know and we can discuss that.

3. It certainly seems that you think rattling off the status quo mantras while ignoring certain historical aspect and what I actually write legitimizes your arrogant confidence and condescending attitude. Not surprising.

1. The MSM didn't create the definition of a virus. Science did. Your world salad is meaningless drivel in light of actual science. I do love your attempt to accuse others of cherry picking data right before you cherry pick data. The fact that one vaccine had serious side effects is not evidence that all vaccines have side effects any more than the fact that one vaccine didn't have side effects is proof that all vaccines don't have side effects. There is a reason that all new medicines are tested in trials before being approved or even before emergency approval. For someone to not want to take the vaccine which has gone through clinical trials which show it is effective but want to take Invermectin which hasn't gone through any testing to see if it is effective seems pretty nonsensical. Of course people have always been nonsensical but it still doesn't make them right when they are.

2. You make no sense. Testing for the existence of the virus isn't testing to see if the person is sick. Rather the reason to test is often because the person is actually sick. Genetic manipulation of RNA is not gene therapy since RNA is not a gene. How you can not know that genes are made up of DNA is beyond me. You did state that the virus was a cell.
because it's NOT fully utilizing your own immune system to deal with the dead cells of the virus
It's kind of hard for you to deny what you clearly wrote unless you want to pretend you didn't write it. Or are you arguing that you don't know how to use the English language?

Flu shots are geared for the expected strains based on what is happening in the southern hemisphere. But essentially you get a flu shot for some strains every year. Did you bother to read what you wrote? "the shot was ineffective against one year's flu strain which was similar to the previous year." If the previous year had inoculated you for that strain how could the strain cause sickness from that strain the following year when the shot didn't include that strain? Flu shots are effective for about 6 months which is the length of the flu season which starts in November and is over in April.

3. I am responded to what you actually write and then you seem to want to pretend you didn't actually write what you actually wrote. Did you not say "dead cells of the virus"? How can a dead cell of a virus exist if there isn't a cell?
 
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1. Remember, the MSM that his heavily sponsored by Big Pharma has conflated the definitions: like it or not, there is a core group of people who are against any and all vaccinations, preferring non-pharmaceutical approaches to strengthening a child's immunity to various diseases. They do so by pointing out various aspects in medical science that support them in lieu of documentation of adverse effect percentages for kids and adults. The second group I mentioned are about fixing the vaccination regime to a level that children can tolerate and to eliminate ingredients that are not needed due to high possibility of toxicity (this came about during the rising cases of autism in children across the country). For adults, they point to contradictory information on the "success" of the Covid vaccinations.

2. right off the bat you make an ASSUMPTION that contradicts reality and essentially put words in my mouth (or on my keyboard, so to speak). Reality check: the basis for testing a person for the Covid virus is severely flawed, as it's creator stated for years that it was NOT designed to diagnose disease that is making a person sick. And I never stated that the virus was a cell, now did I? I pointed to the FACT that the current basis for all the Covid vaccines is to manipulate your system to artificially heighten (spike) response specifically to one particular virus...that is a genetic manipulation, no matter how temporary or low level. THIS HAS NEVER BEEN THE CASE WITH ALL PREVIOUS VACCINATIONS. Any doctor worth his salt can tell you how long what specific vaccine TRADITIONALLY works. Flu shots, by the way, are geared each year for the particular strain that is going around, which is why you had the Tamiflu incident a few years back, where the shot was ineffective against one year's flu strain which was similar to the previous year. If you can name a vaccine where the "booster" was required in less than 6 months prior to Covid, let me know and we can discuss that.

3. It certainly seems that you think rattling off the status quo mantras while ignoring certain historical aspect and what I actually write legitimizes your arrogant confidence and condescending attitude. Not surprising.


1. The MSM didn't create the definition of a virus. Science did. Your world salad is meaningless drivel in light of actual science. I do love your attempt to accuse others of cherry picking data right before you cherry pick data. The fact that one vaccine had serious side effects is not evidence that all vaccines have side effects any more than the fact that one vaccine didn't have side effects is proof that all vaccines don't have side effects. There is a reason that all new medicines are tested in trials before being approved or even before emergency approval. For someone to not want to take the vaccine which has gone through clinical trials which show it is effective but want to take Invermectin which hasn't gone through any testing to see if it is effective seems pretty nonsensical. Of course people have always been nonsensical but it still doesn't make them right when they are.

2. You make no sense. Testing for the existence of the virus isn't testing to see if the person is sick. Rather the reason to test is often because the person is actually sick. Genetic manipulation of RNA is not gene therapy since RNA is not a gene. How you can not know that genes are made up of DNA is beyond me. You did state that the virus was a cell. It's kind of hard for you to deny what you clearly wrote unless you want to pretend you didn't write it. Or are you arguing that you don't know how to use the English language?

Flu shots are geared for the expected strains based on what is happening in the southern hemisphere. But essentially you get a flu shot for some strains every year. Did you bother to read what you wrote? "the shot was ineffective against one year's flu strain which was similar to the previous year." If the previous year had inoculated you for that strain how could the strain cause sickness from that strain the following year when the shot didn't include that strain? Flu shots are effective for about 6 months which is the length of the flu season which starts in November and is over in April.

3. I am responded to what you actually write and then you seem to want to pretend you didn't actually write what you actually wrote. Did you not say "dead cells of the virus"? How can a dead cell of a virus exist if there isn't a cell?

1. I wrote "conflate", NOT "create". Please sharpen your reading comprehension skills. Pay attention and stay focused or stop lying about what I write. You persist in treating your revisionist rhetoric as fact, when the chronology of the posts exposes your lies and folly time and again. Your babble just promotes your opinion, supposition and conjecture. For your education: ivermectin has been successfully used to treat other ailments besides intestinal since it's creation (originally created FOR HUMANS, the animal application a discovered side perk). The WHO have been doing clinical trials for some time....this is why Joe Rogan's doctor could use it without getting charged by the AMA for malpractice. It works, without detrimental side effects....period. There are vast swaths of India that ar also testament to this. Pretty gullible of the American public to not research further and just trust Fauci and the talking heads of big pharma sponsored MSM.

2. A virus is a microscopic organism that invades living cells in order to reproduce. The dead infected cells are used to create a vaccine where your immune system creates anti-bodies. Capice? And for your ass backwards explanation about testing for Covid.....traditionally it was done by either blood sample or sputum analysis. The PCR was mistakenly used to speed up that process....unfortunately, it was NOT designed as a diagnostic for what currently makes you sick...it just identifies a that you have a molecule of some past disease. Here's how Mullis explained it.



And what is this silly tactic of yours that essentially repeats moot points and what I previously wrote as if I didn't conclude the same? The POINT, of which you ignore, was that one year TAMIFLU was pushed by the powers that be for a flu that was NOT the flu Tamiflu was designed to fight. It was a copy of the same flu shot from the previous year. Got that? Because what they are doing now with Covid variants is essentially the same...telling the public "it'll do some good and you won't get hospitalized or go to the ICU. Evidence to the contrary with "breakthrough" cases makes those claims false.

3. The only person buying your BS is the one you see in the mirror. The chronology of the posts exposes your intellectual dishonesty. And, as all wonks are want to do, you harp your presumed "got'cha" point as the be all, end all justification for all your screed. Pity for you I've aptly put that to rest here for the objective reader to see, as I have no delusions you'll develop a spine to just concede a point on this anonymous platform. Carry on.
 
1. Remember, the MSM that his heavily sponsored by Big Pharma has conflated the definitions: like it or not, there is a core group of people who are against any and all vaccinations, preferring non-pharmaceutical approaches to strengthening a child's immunity to various diseases. They do so by pointing out various aspects in medical science that support them in lieu of documentation of adverse effect percentages for kids and adults. The second group I mentioned are about fixing the vaccination regime to a level that children can tolerate and to eliminate ingredients that are not needed due to high possibility of toxicity (this came about during the rising cases of autism in children across the country). For adults, they point to contradictory information on the "success" of the Covid vaccinations.

2. right off the bat you make an ASSUMPTION that contradicts reality and essentially put words in my mouth (or on my keyboard, so to speak). Reality check: the basis for testing a person for the Covid virus is severely flawed, as it's creator stated for years that it was NOT designed to diagnose disease that is making a person sick. And I never stated that the virus was a cell, now did I? I pointed to the FACT that the current basis for all the Covid vaccines is to manipulate your system to artificially heighten (spike) response specifically to one particular virus...that is a genetic manipulation, no matter how temporary or low level. THIS HAS NEVER BEEN THE CASE WITH ALL PREVIOUS VACCINATIONS. Any doctor worth his salt can tell you how long what specific vaccine TRADITIONALLY works. Flu shots, by the way, are geared each year for the particular strain that is going around, which is why you had the Tamiflu incident a few years back, where the shot was ineffective against one year's flu strain which was similar to the previous year. If you can name a vaccine where the "booster" was required in less than 6 months prior to Covid, let me know and we can discuss that.

3. It certainly seems that you think rattling off the status quo mantras while ignoring certain historical aspect and what I actually write legitimizes your arrogant confidence and condescending attitude. Not surprising.

you are full of shit, boy. polio and smallpox and measles are so rare today because kids were NOT forced to get shots to protect against it, but were given horse dewormer and malaria shots and zinc and bullshit like that? you are fucking insane in the membrane.
 
Rob Skiba, an influential figure in flat earth and Christian circles, has died of COVID-19, colleagues announced on Thursday. He had been fighting the virus since at least late August, when he began exhibiting symptoms after “Take On The World,” a biblical flat earth conference. “He has been sick since coming back from TOTW,” a Facebook friend posted in early September, adding that Skiba had been hospitalized for low oxygen levels. One of the country’s most prominent advocates of Flat Earth Theory, Skiba was also skeptical of COVID-19 vaccines and some of the illness’ treatments. On the first day of the Take On The World conference, Skiba authored a Facebook post suggesting that the COVID-19 vaccines were dangerous.

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https://www.thedailybeast.com/flat-earth-preacher-rob-skiba-dies-of-covid-19

I hope he enjoys his eternity in hell.

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