Anti-Vax Flat Earth Preacher Dies of COVID-19

ThatOwlWoman said:
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Suddenly you go stupid when it comes to this subject? You just ignore the implications of the information THAT IS COMING FROM THE VERY SOURCES YOU TOUT TO SUPPORT YOUR CONTENTIONS. Then instead of using all the facts and the logic derived from said facts to debate the issue, you just blather demonization and denunciations of anyone who disagree with you or (gasp!) presents arguments you can't disprove or refute.

C'mon Owl, you're better than this. Don't let fear rule your critical thinking skills.
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Sorry, Charlie, but I disagree with your anti-vax views. Period. Don't like it, then don't get it.
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A willfully ignorant and childish response. Let me educate you on something:

1. Anti-vaxxers are people who are against any and all vaccinations at any age....they are a relatively small part of the population. People who have legitimate questions and can find factual and logical flaws in the declarations of the medical powers that be (mostly contradictions in their own public released papers) are NOT against any and all vaccines. then you have the rabid anti-gov't types who are against the federal gov't in general, coupled with the "deep state" conspiracy folks, who are now actually seeing some vestiges of their paranoia come to light.

2. The Covid shots are NOT vaccines, but experimental gene therapy that artificially kick starts your immune system to respond to a SPECIFIC virus. This is why you "need" 2nd and 3rd shots within less than a year...because it's NOT fully utilizing your own immune system to deal with the dead cells of the virus and permanently create anti-bodies. Hell, I once had to get a tetnus shot for stepping on a rusty nail....didn't need another for 5 years if it happened again.

3. Kid, you want to get the shot(s), then God be with you. As for me, it would seem that it depends on which state gives you a choice....some are going the "no jab, no job" route....got to wonder how long that will last before all hell breaks loose.

And the band played on.
 
Old Trapper said:
Another lie you cannot prove:

https://www.politifact.com/factchec...hecking-tomi-lahren-vaccines-and-covid-19-su/
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Poor Richard Saunders said:
The amazing part of that graph is how few deaths there are.

The US averages 6700 deaths per day with a population of 330,000,000. Since we have administered over 380,000,000 doses of vaccine we should have seen at least 6500 deaths per day for every day after the vaccine was administered. Instead we have never met that number of deaths.
If anything this proves that the vaccine prevents deaths that would normally occur. It certainly doesn't prove the vaccine is causing deaths.
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Hypocrites. You guys used to drone on because even just ONE death was unacceptable due to Covid. You all had to have ZERO infections/deaths to be satisfied.
But, you want to go full throttle on a useless jab no matter how many lives are ruined or lost. Hypocrites.
 
domer76 said:
Link it up. I find no article that indicates any deaths from the H1N1 vaccine, nor anything about Obama suspending the vaccine.
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So, you think Bama was heartless and senseless now? He stopped the testing early on in order to get some answers before continuing.
He did not go full slaughter like Biden's masters are doing.
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
The amazing part of that graph is how few deaths there are.

The US averages 6700 deaths per day with a population of 330,000,000. Since we have administered over 380,000,000 doses of vaccine we should have seen at least 6500 deaths per day for every day after the vaccine was administered. Instead we have never met that number of deaths.
If anything this proves that the vaccine prevents deaths that would normally occur. It certainly doesn't prove the vaccine is causing deaths.
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15,937. What happened to the left screaming that ONE life gone is too many?
 
Colin Powell, who got the jab....a lot of chronic pre-conditions. He got "vaccinated against Covid", but got it anyway. Now he's dead.

So remember folks; according to the powers that be, if you have a chronic pre-condition and don't get the vaccine, get hospitalized and test "positive", your death is Covid related and it's your fault.

But if you have a chronic pre-condition and get the vaccine, get hospitalized and test "positive", your death is Covid related, and not attributed to the vaccine side effects or failure to do it's job.

And remember, the PCR tests are NOT designed to diagnose disease.

Just saying.
 
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Taichiliberal said:
A willfully ignorant and childish response. Let me educate you on something:

1. Anti-vaxxers are people who are against any and all vaccinations at any age....they are a relatively small part of the population. People who have legitimate questions and can find factual and logical flaws in the declarations of the medical powers that be (mostly contradictions in their own public released papers) are NOT against any and all vaccines. then you have the rabid anti-gov't types who are against the federal gov't in general, coupled with the "deep state" conspiracy folks, who are now actually seeing some vestiges of their paranoia come to light.

2. The Covid shots are NOT vaccines, but experimental gene therapy that artificially kick starts your immune system to respond to a SPECIFIC virus. This is why you "need" 2nd and 3rd shots within less than a year...because it's NOT fully utilizing your own immune system to deal with the dead cells of the virus and permanently create anti-bodies. Hell, I once had to get a tetnus shot for stepping on a rusty nail....didn't need another for 5 years if it happened again.

3. Kid, you want to get the shot(s), then God be with you. As for me, it would seem that it depends on which state gives you a choice....some are going the "no jab, no job" route....got to wonder how long that will last before all hell breaks loose.

And the band played on.
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Covid shots are mRNa vaccines. They contain ribonucleic acid. It gives instructions as it is being injected. It is taken up by cells, but never enters the cell nucleus where DNA resides. It gives instructions to make proteins that match the Covid virus. The body recognizes it as foreign and develops an immune response including antibodies specific to the Trump virus. It has been around for 2 years. No hell is breaking loose.
 
Nordberg said:
Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
A willfully ignorant and childish response. Let me educate you on something:

1. Anti-vaxxers are people who are against any and all vaccinations at any age....they are a relatively small part of the population. People who have legitimate questions and can find factual and logical flaws in the declarations of the medical powers that be (mostly contradictions in their own public released papers) are NOT against any and all vaccines. then you have the rabid anti-gov't types who are against the federal gov't in general, coupled with the "deep state" conspiracy folks, who are now actually seeing some vestiges of their paranoia come to light.

2. The Covid shots are NOT vaccines, but experimental gene therapy that artificially kick starts your immune system to respond to a SPECIFIC virus. This is why you "need" 2nd and 3rd shots within less than a year...because it's NOT fully utilizing your own immune system to deal with the dead cells of the virus and permanently create anti-bodies. Hell, I once had to get a tetnus shot for stepping on a rusty nail....didn't need another for 5 years if it happened again.

3. Kid, you want to get the shot(s), then God be with you. As for me, it would seem that it depends on which state gives you a choice....some are going the "no jab, no job" route....got to wonder how long that will last before all hell breaks loose.

And the band played on.
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Covid shots are mRNa vaccines. They contain ribonucleic acid. It gives instructions as it is being injected. It is taken up by cells, but never enters the cell nucleus where DNA resides. It gives instructions to make proteins that match the Covid virus. The body recognizes it as foreign and develops an immune response including antibodies specific to the Trump virus. It has been around for 2 years. No hell is breaking loose.
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Nice recitation...pity it changes nothing said in previous #2. Also note:

1) The current Covid "vaccines" are functioning under emergency authorization, and would NOT be allowed distribution to the general public under regular circumstances. Technically, they are still undergoing clinical trials.

2) This little gem from July of this year: https://www.businessinsider.com/fda...johnson-and-johnson-covid-vaccine-2021-7?op=1

3) and this: https://sharylattkisson.com/2021/06...op-emergency-use-of-covid-19-vaccine-in-kids/

4) Your last 2 sentences stupidly ignore (or don't comprehend) what was said, as the "jab or no job" mandates have just started THIS YEAR in a few states.
 
Stretch said:
So, you think Bama was heartless and senseless now? He stopped the testing early on in order to get some answers before continuing.
He did not go full slaughter like Biden's masters are doing.
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No, what I’m saying is that you’re probably lying again. Still.

Link it
 
Stretch said:
The site is the left's god.............the CDC.
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I thought everyone on the left was a godless atheist. :laugh:

How do you reconcile lying and spreading misinformation that -- assuming anyone believes you which thankfully no one does -- could cause someone to be harmed, with your self-professed Xtian faith? Or have you given that up in favor of your new religion -- Trumpism?
 
Hello guno,

guno said:
Rob Skiba, an influential figure in flat earth and Christian circles, has died of COVID-19, colleagues announced on Thursday. He had been fighting the virus since at least late August, when he began exhibiting symptoms after “Take On The World,” a biblical flat earth conference. “He has been sick since coming back from TOTW,” a Facebook friend posted in early September, adding that Skiba had been hospitalized for low oxygen levels. One of the country’s most prominent advocates of Flat Earth Theory, Skiba was also skeptical of COVID-19 vaccines and some of the illness’ treatments. On the first day of the Take On The World conference, Skiba authored a Facebook post suggesting that the COVID-19 vaccines were dangerous.

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He found out what was more dangerous.
 
Stretch said:
Hypocrites. You guys used to drone on because even just ONE death was unacceptable due to Covid. You all had to have ZERO infections/deaths to be satisfied.
But, you want to go full throttle on a useless jab no matter how many lives are ruined or lost. Hypocrites.
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When did I say one death was unacceptable? Your straw man isn't really much of an argument. Did it make you feel good to kick the heck out of it? It certainly didn't make you look smart by doing it.

Your claims about the vaccine causing deaths is specious and unsupported by any facts. Because you don't like that I pointed that out using actual numbers doesn't mean your argument wasn't specious. The deaths from 380,000,000 shots is less than is to be expected in the same population that didn't get the shots. On the other hand, the deaths from those that got Covid is higher than the population in general.
 
Stretch said:
15,937. What happened to the left screaming that ONE life gone is too many?
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In 75 days we should have seen 487,500 deaths based on the average death rate in the US. The fact that you are claiming only 15,937 died within 75 days of getting the shot would mean that the vaccine saved 471,563 lives. That seems like a good thing to me.
 
Taichiliberal said:
A willfully ignorant and childish response. Let me educate you on something:

1. Anti-vaxxers are people who are against any and all vaccinations at any age....they are a relatively small part of the population. People who have legitimate questions and can find factual and logical flaws in the declarations of the medical powers that be (mostly contradictions in their own public released papers) are NOT against any and all vaccines. then you have the rabid anti-gov't types who are against the federal gov't in general, coupled with the "deep state" conspiracy folks, who are now actually seeing some vestiges of their paranoia come to light.

2. The Covid shots are NOT vaccines, but experimental gene therapy that artificially kick starts your immune system to respond to a SPECIFIC virus. This is why you "need" 2nd and 3rd shots within less than a year...because it's NOT fully utilizing your own immune system to deal with the dead cells of the virus and permanently create anti-bodies. Hell, I once had to get a tetnus shot for stepping on a rusty nail....didn't need another for 5 years if it happened again.

3. Kid, you want to get the shot(s), then God be with you. As for me, it would seem that it depends on which state gives you a choice....some are going the "no jab, no job" route....got to wonder how long that will last before all hell breaks loose.

And the band played on.
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^Facebook education.
 
Stretch said:
Hypocrites. You guys used to drone on because even just ONE death was unacceptable due to Covid. You all had to have ZERO infections/deaths to be satisfied.
But, you want to go full throttle on a useless jab no matter how many lives are ruined or lost. Hypocrites.
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Liar
 
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