Another pound of angus in the "nothing burger"

Getin the ring said:
why do you insist on reducing your own argument to rubble? You just can't help yourself can you.

Let me offer a little debate 101, when you are criticizing someone for something that the person you support did the exact same thing, or worse in this case, you would be much better served to either offer an opinion as to why it is you think the former is worse, why you think the latter is not as concerning, or thirdly and in this case may be the most convincing admit that both were equally bad judgement.

Although I must warn you, to people actually paying attention what Hillary did on said subject is documented collusion, what we have with Donald Jr is not only second person removed from the candidate but still a long way from collusion.

I feel like I'm debating with children, honestly.
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I didn't support Hillary.

And you guys went nuts over every single thing she did - but now don't care when the Trumps do the same. Please spare me your lectures. I've rarely seen such hypocrisy on the board.

It's fun seeing you all reduced to "but look at Hillary!" now. You realize that there isn't much else you can offer anymore.
 
Nomad said:
Attempted collusion is a crime also. Just like attempted espionage. If you try to pass of national security secrets to a foreign govt but fail in your attempt, you're still guilty of a crime.

The fact that Dumpster Jr went to the meeting knowing who and what she was and what she was offering and for what purpose... all together spell attempting to collude with a foreign enemy to subvert the US election process.

Now they're going to flip the little boy fish for the big daddy fish.

Guess we'll soon see how much family loyalty exists within the Dumpster clan.
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I see that. Let's sum up:

The Imperial Don's campaign team tried to illegally investigate rumors of criminal activity with a Russian cohort, but rejected such assistance.

In the end The Don won without Russian help. But his assistants are in trouble for trying.

If you insist.
 
Darth Omar said:
Yet, you can't/won't explain why this sort of thing wasn't a big deal last January.
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I don't know. Did liberals spend months saying that "nothing happened" and "there was no collusion" and "show us the evidence" - like you did?

Is Hillary President?

What am I missing here? Have you taken that Dramamine?
 
Nomad said:
Attempted collusion is a crime also. Just like attempted espionage. If you try to pass of national security secrets to a foreign govt but fail in your attempt, you're still guilty of a crime.

The fact that Dumpster Jr went to the meeting knowing who and what she was and what she was offering and for what purpose... all together spell attempting to collude with a foreign enemy to subvert the US election process.

Now they're going to flip the little boy fish for the big daddy fish.

Guess we'll soon see how much family loyalty exists within the Dumpster clan.
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Can we all collectively imagine what this poor clown ^^^^ is going to post when all of this Alice in wonderland collusion stuff goes full circle and nothing comes of it?

That's why I am glad the most liberal of all investigative personnel and committees are on the case, so we dont want to hear that Trump had the story buried.

But I am sure you will come up with something else.

it's almost if you include all of the months of posts on how bad Hillary was going to beat Trump, and now all of this sure thing witch hunt stuff and add them all up.
At some point we will be able to just laugh at anything you say on the face of it.
 
Thing1 said:
LOL - the Ukraine thing just popped up from 3 posters in the last 5 minutes.

Are all of you guys on a mass email that goes out to Fox, talk radio & every other Trump defender?
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Try "the car next to me was speeding also "defense next time you are dragged to traffic court. I hear that usually doesn't go so well.
 
Thing1 said:
I'm sure that's why everyone is lawyering up & why Trump has basically sequestered himself all week.

Remember when he used to go on & on about how if we elected Hillary, there would be a "cloud of investigation"?
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He's cleared his calendar to log some hours hiding under his desk.
 
Natalia Veselnitskaya Pictured With Obama Officals in DC on June 14th, 2016

Ms. Natalia Veselnitskaya is pictured seated in the front row directly behind former U.S. Ambassador to Russia Mr. Michael McFaul at the House Foreign Affairs Committee. This is June 14th, 2016, five days after the reported meeting with Donald Trump Jr.

https://theconservativetreehouse.co...-with-obama-officals-in-dc-on-june-14th-2016/


russia-hearing-5.jpg
 
Nomad said:
Attempted collusion is a crime also. Just like attempted espionage. If you try to pass of national security secrets to a foreign govt but fail in your attempt, you're still guilty of a crime.

The fact that Dumpster Jr went to the meeting knowing who and what she was and what she was offering and for what purpose... all together spell attempting to collude with a foreign enemy to subvert the US election process.

Now they're going to flip the little boy fish for the big daddy fish.

Guess we'll soon see how much family loyalty exists within the Dumpster clan.
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In a speech on June 7, 2016, Trump said he'd deliver a 'major speech' on Clinton
The speech came just four days after Donald Trump Jr was contacted by about information from Russian government that he said would incriminate Clinton
Hours before Trump's speech, Trump Jr set up a meeting with a Russian lawyer
Trump Jr met with the lawyer on June 9 but said that he learned nothing of value
The President failed to follow through with his promise of a 'speech' on Clinton


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...peech-Trump-Jr-set-meeting.html#ixzz4mdqWo5b5
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Bigdog said:
Natalia Veselnitskaya Pictured With Obama Officals in DC on June 14th, 2016

Ms. Natalia Veselnitskaya is pictured seated in the front row directly behind former U.S. Ambassador to Russia Mr. Michael McFaul at the House Foreign Affairs Committee. This is June 14th, 2016, five days after the reported meeting with Donald Trump Jr.

https://theconservativetreehouse.co...-with-obama-officals-in-dc-on-june-14th-2016/


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Natalia Veselnitskaya was/is also a very vocal anti-Trump person on all of her social media accounts – SEE FACEBOOK ARCHIVE HERE – So why would someone with a disposition of being anti-Trump want to deliver information to Donald Trump Jr? …Especially considering Ms. Veselnitskaya was never identified within the original email request for a meeting? ….and Donald Trump Jr. said, correctly it appears, that he had no idea whom he would be meeting with(?) .
 
Thing1 said:
I didn't support Hillary.

And you guys went nuts over every single thing she did - but now don't care when the Trumps do the same. Please spare me your lectures. I've rarely seen such hypocrisy on the board.

It's fun seeing you all reduced to "but look at Hillary!" now. You realize that there isn't much else you can offer anymore.
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you did do support Hillary, too late.

And no one, or at least not me is saying but Hillary did it too.
Pointing out that you are dismissing that as if it never happened however is my point to your silly arguments.

I happen to think the moment Don Jr saw the text in the email about the Russian Government supporting his father a big red beacon should have went off and he should have blocked the sender.

I will however for now pass that off for what he claims it was, "like heck yea I'll take some dirt on Hillary we need everything we can get" rookie mistake.
Remember Russia collusion was not even on the radar at the time of the email, except that Obama knew it and was ignoring it. ;)
 
"In 2009, McFaul joined the Barack Obama administration as a senior adviser in Washington, D.C., where he was the architect of the so-called "Russian reset" policy. In 2011, Obama nominated McFaul to be the 7th United States Ambassador to Russia. On December 17, 2011, the United States Senate confirmed McFaul by unanimous consent.[9] McFaul became the first non-career diplomat to be the U.S. ambassador to Russia.[7] McFaul announced his resignation from his posting to Russia on February 4, 2014, effective after the Sochi Olympics."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_McFaul
 
Getin the ring said:
you did do support Hillary, too late.

And no one, or at least not me is saying but Hillary did it too.
Pointing out that you are dismissing that as if it never happened however is my point to your silly arguments.

I happen to think the moment Don Jr saw the text in the email about the Russian Government supporting his father a big red beacon should have went off and he should have blocked the sender.

I will however for now pass that off for what he claims it was, "like heck yea I'll take some dirt on Hillary we need everything we can get" rookie mistake.
Remember Russia collusion was not even on the radar at the time of the email, except that Obama knew it and was ignoring it. ;)
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"I did do support Hillary?"

Sorry - did not. Started threads lamenting that she was the candidate, and taking her to task for her Iraq Vote and other obvious baggage that prevented me from voting for her.

I find that hack righties can't comprehend that kind of independent thinking, though - because they think everyone is a hack like them. Like, I would get your support for Trump as an anti-Hillary thing, or if immigration was the biggest issue for you. But the way you praise the guy as some sort of genius & messiah is incomprehensible to me. It's pure koolaid.
 
Bigdog said:
"In 2009, McFaul joined the Barack Obama administration as a senior adviser in Washington, D.C., where he was the architect of the so-called "Russian reset" policy. In 2011, Obama nominated McFaul to be the 7th United States Ambassador to Russia. On December 17, 2011, the United States Senate confirmed McFaul by unanimous consent.[9] McFaul became the first non-career diplomat to be the U.S. ambassador to Russia.[7] McFaul announced his resignation from his posting to Russia on February 4, 2014, effective after the Sochi Olympics."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_McFaul
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So?

Are you just flailing around for whatever straws are left?
 
Thing1 said:
"I did do support Hillary?"

Sorry - did not. Started threads lamenting that she was the candidate, and taking her to task for her Iraq Vote and other obvious baggage that prevented me from voting for her.

I find that hack righties can't comprehend that kind of independent thinking, .
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Hack righties wanted Jeb Bush to be the nominee :palm:
 
Thing1 said:
So?

Are you just flailing around for whatever straws are left?
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"Ms. Natalia Veselnitskaya is pictured seated in the front row directly behind former U.S. Ambassador to Russia Mr. Michael McFaul at the House Foreign Affairs Committee. This is June 14th, 2016, five days after the reported meeting with Donald Trump Jr."
 
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