Ann Romney Has No Dignity?

No actually, it was Ann Romney who fired that shot.

because of course, nothing Rosen said counts......not to mention the statement Obama made a week earlier about the sacrifices Michelle had made by actually working in addition to raising her kids......lol.....
 
I'll tell you, only democrats have yet to try to tell me that my wife has less value because of her career choice. I've been told that she "had it easy" because we aren't poor, but then I've been told that I am "putting on airs" because we aren't rich. I've been told that other people "just don't have that option".

Almost nothing I have heard from Democrats in regard to our choice (yeah we made it together and stuff) to have one of us stay at home (whomever was making less at the time, and believe me it was close, had I not been promoted close to birth I would be the on scene parent).

They say they value her, but their actions and what they do denies that. While, contrariwise, from republicans I have only heard support for my wife, an understanding that it has value.

I say that because of what I experience, both here and in my life. Democrats do not value my wife, they hold only scorn for choosing to hold a traditional role. Often they believe that I somehow "forced" her to make this choice. She's told me that some people have approached her to advocate she "stop doing what he says" and return to work... They do not even believe she may have chosen this and that together we believe it is valuable.

Well, Damo, she did have it easy compared to the woman who raises her children on her own and also has to work one or at times, two jobs. I know a few of those and they would gladly trade places with your wife.
 
Well, Damo, she did have it easy compared to the woman who raises her children on her own and also has to work one or at times, two jobs. I know a few of those and they would gladly trade places with your wife.

A man wrote into Newsday to say that he had been a stay at home dad for 15 years, and he would give anything to go back to that. He said that his kids never told him what to do, or what time he had to be there. He said he put them on the bus and then had hours of time that was all his. No woman could have written it because she would have been called lazy. Personally, I believe he spoke the truth, but only for people above a certain income. There is no doubt that the financially struggling stay at home mom has to work very hard to make ends meet. Some of these women can't go to work because they are poorly educated and low skilled and what they would earn simply would not cover the cost of gas and other car expenses, clothes, and the big one - day care. These are all things that liberals, please note, not democrats, but liberals, would love to talk about and even have some solutions for!

And that is yet another reason why the right would rather play the politics of resentment and refight the mommy wars than start to talk about this in real life terms. You simply cannot talk about it in real life terms without bringing up class. And that they will not do. They will not do it. Thus, an insult against Ann Romney, a mind-bogglingly wealthy woman, is an insult against stay at home moms. Pure silliness.
 
A man wrote into Newsday to say that he had been a stay at home dad for 15 years, and he would give anything to go back to that. He said that his kids never told him what to do, or what time he had to be there. He said he put them on the bus and then had hours of time that was all his. No woman could have written it because she would have been called lazy. Personally, I believe he spoke the truth, but only for people above a certain income. There is no doubt that the financially struggling stay at home mom has to work very hard to make ends meet. Some of these women can't go to work because they are poorly educated and low skilled and what they would earn simply would not cover the cost of gas and other car expenses, clothes, and the big one - day care. These are all things that liberals, please note, not democrats, but liberals, would love to talk about and even have some solutions for!

And that is yet another reason why the right would rather play the politics of resentment and refight the mommy wars than start to talk about this in real life terms. You simply cannot talk about it in real life terms without bringing up class. And that they will not do. They will not do it. Thus, an insult against Ann Romney, a mind-bogglingly wealthy woman, is an insult against stay at home moms. Pure silliness.

Going through breast cancer is not easy, either, but I can say with certainty that not having to go to work during that time made it easier for me.
 
A man wrote into Newsday to say that he had been a stay at home dad for 15 years, and he would give anything to go back to that. He said that his kids never told him what to do, or what time he had to be there. He said he put them on the bus and then had hours of time that was all his. No woman could have written it because she would have been called lazy. Personally, I believe he spoke the truth, but only for people above a certain income. There is no doubt that the financially struggling stay at home mom has to work very hard to make ends meet. Some of these women can't go to work because they are poorly educated and low skilled and what they would earn simply would not cover the cost of gas and other car expenses, clothes, and the big one - day care. These are all things that liberals, please note, not democrats, but liberals, would love to talk about and even have some solutions for!

And that is yet another reason why the right would rather play the politics of resentment and refight the mommy wars than start to talk about this in real life terms. You simply cannot talk about it in real life terms without bringing up class. And that they will not do. They will not do it. Thus, an insult against Ann Romney, a mind-bogglingly wealthy woman, is an insult against stay at home moms. Pure silliness.

Going through breast cancer is not easy, either, but I can say with certainty that not having to go to work during that time made it easier for me.
 
I'd just like to say how wonderful it is that posters like SF and Damo have so quickly and seemlessly made the transition to full-blown Romney-apologist mode.

Damo had a brief foray into Gingrich apologism, but it's good to see his pragmatic side win the day...

Romney is borg. I told you all conservatives would be assimilated. Why does no one listen to me?
 
Ann Romney's tough choices???

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You hang around some really rude people if they feel they can talk outright to you about your wife staying home in such a manner. It must happen on a regular basis and they must also tell you they are Democrats, too., for you to come to the conclusion you have reached.
Well, Democrats are often like that. They seem to feel entitled to tell her how to live for some reason.

The women I know that work outside the home wish they could be stay at home moms, well some of them, a great many of them., others want to work outside the home,like it, wouldn't stay home if they could. It is fortunate that women now have the choice. Many women don't have the choice, they must work outside the home to support their families.

Your family is fortunate in that your wife was able to stay home and didnt have to bring in money to help support the family.
I was a self employed, stay at home mom.
And this is what I expect people to understand.

However, in the next post will you support Hillary Rosen in saying she's "never held a job in her life"? I understand, and have been told right here that I am "taking on airs" if I compare my wife to a woman who made that same choice simply because of how much money they have. They dismiss people who have less, dismiss her contribution, and then try to tell me that they value her trying to butter the bread on both sides. Either you value that choice and understand that it is a worthy career, or you believe that you can dismiss that contribution for whatever reason. The expectation that you can have the cake and eat it too...
 
Well, Democrats are often like that. They seem to feel entitled to tell her how to live for some reason.


And this is what I expect people to understand.

However, in the next post will you support Hillary Rosen in saying she's "never held a job in her life"? I understand, and have been told right here that I am "taking on airs" if I compare my wife to a woman who made that same choice simply because of how much money they have. They dismiss people who have less, dismiss her contribution, and then try to tell me that they value her trying to butter the bread on both sides. Either you value that choice and understand that it is a worthy career, or you believe that you can dismiss that contribution for whatever reason. The expectation that you can have the cake and eat it too...

Or, you can value the choice but still understand that Ann Romney is not the typical stay at home mother, and that she may not be able to relate to a woman who works outside the home and does not have the luxury to stay at home, or the mother who stays at home but doesn't have the resources Ann does.
 
Or, you can value the choice but still understand that Ann Romney is not the typical stay at home mother, and that she may not be able to relate to a woman who works outside the home and does not have the luxury to stay at home, or the mother who stays at home but doesn't have the resources Ann does.

The reality is, people have a broader understanding than they try to limit Ann Romney to. The capacity to comprehend what people say isn't beyond her. That he recognizes that women may approach her if they feel more comfortable and that she can listen and advise is a good thing. The assumption that she's crippled in mind and spirit simply because she was able to choose to contribute as a stay at home mother is preposterous. That she's had her own obstacles in life is apparent with her bio, the assumption that she's somehow unintelligent and incapable of basic human understanding solely because of career choice is disgusting.
 
Well, Democrats are often like that. They seem to feel entitled to tell her how to live for some reason.


And this is what I expect people to understand.

However, in the next post will you support Hillary Rosen in saying she's "never held a job in her life"? I understand, and have been told right here that I am "taking on airs" if I compare my wife to a woman who made that same choice simply because of how much money they have. They dismiss people who have less, dismiss her contribution, and then try to tell me that they value her trying to butter the bread on both sides. Either you value that choice and understand that it is a worthy career, or you believe that you can dismiss that contribution for whatever reason. The expectation that you can have the cake and eat it too...

Rosen's words were poorly chosen.
 
LMAO... again, you liberals are 'sure' she had staff to help her raise her kids. Despite her kids saying that was not the case. Also, in 1998, her youngest was 17.

I love how you think you get to determine what she does and does not have in common with the average woman. Do you know anything about her? Or are you just lining up to receive your cracker? which is it lil parrot?

Even if she didn't have nannies, big deal. The kids were pretty specific in saying no staff helped raise them, not that there was no staff, period. It's a lot easier spending time with the kids when cooking, laundry, cleaning, etc. are done by paid help.
 
The reality is, people have a broader understanding than they try to limit Ann Romney to. The capacity to comprehend what people say isn't beyond her. That he recognizes that women may approach her if they feel more comfortable and that she can listen and advise is a good thing. The assumption that she's crippled in mind and spirit simply because she was able to choose to contribute as a stay at home mother is preposterous. That she's had her own obstacles in life is apparent with her bio, the assumption that she's somehow unintelligent and incapable of basic human understanding solely because of career choice is disgusting.

Who said all that, besides yourself? I don't see anyone claiming stay at home moms are unintelligent and incapable. They just do not have the same experiences as women who work outside the home. I personally would rather be a stay at home mom, because when I had a job, I still had to come home from my job and do my home work. Women who are not burdened by financial problems have one less worry in their lives.
 
The reality is, people have a broader understanding than they try to limit Ann Romney to. The capacity to comprehend what people say isn't beyond her. That he recognizes that women may approach her if they feel more comfortable and that she can listen and advise is a good thing. The assumption that she's crippled in mind and spirit simply because she was able to choose to contribute as a stay at home mother is preposterous. That she's had her own obstacles in life is apparent with her bio, the assumption that she's somehow unintelligent and incapable of basic human understanding solely because of career choice is disgusting.

She is crippled by not knowing how it feels to struggle financially, we were talking economics, remember. She may not be able to understand a poor, working mothers plight. I don't even fully understand it and Ann Romney has more money than I.
 
She is crippled by not knowing how it feels to struggle financially, we were talking economics, remember. She may not be able to understand a poor, working mothers plight. I don't even fully understand it and Ann Romney has more money than I.

how does this make her cripple? does this mean a poor first wife is cripple because she can't understand those who have money?
 
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