Ann Romney Has No Dignity?

They're full of shit too. Of course she had paid help. I can't wait until it comes out that they weren't paying taxes or something like that. It always does. Always does.

Anyway, her kids are long grown. She's been sitting around on her ass doing nothing for years. She better go get a job to give her some dignity.

LMAO... oh poor Darla... the liberal parroting made you look stupid and now you are lashing out. You really think that running around screaming that the kids must be lying, simply because it doesn't fit the liberal narrative is going to change reality?

You made yourself look ignorant by repeating such nonsense in a vain attempt to attack Ann Romney.
 
As for the 'dignity' issue, that has long been an issue for those on welfare. The lack of perceived 'dignity' for having to rely upon the government dime. Mitt was not stating that all women who stay at home lack 'dignity'. I know for many liberals there is nothing wrong with living off of welfare, but for many of those on it they would like nothing more than to be provided the opportunity to make their own way. Many on welfare are single parents (mainly single moms) who cannot afford to work because they lack the ability to pay for daycare. It is not because they are lazy, but more because they cannot do both. I think (and could be wrong) that is what Mitt was referring to. That by paying for the daycare, he would provide the ability for those single parents on welfare the opportunity to work and potentially break the cycle.

I know this is not something liberals want to hear though. They prefer to keep a good chunk of the population under government control.

Bull. He said they need to go to gain the "dignity of work". If being a stay at home mom was work, they'd already have the dignity of work. The fact is that very few men consider being a stay at home mom real work. This is what's so funny. I know this. You probably know it, but maybe not, I'm not sure. I have heard more slams against women who stay at home, from their damned husbands, then I have ever heard from any woman, liberal or otherwise. You can make all the claims you want, but he doesn't believe for one second that being a stay at home mom is work.

What he does believe is that wealthy white women are entitled to stay home. That it's one measure of a man whether he can keep her home or not. That poor women do not deserve to be home. That even middle class women do not deserve it.

This is another perfect example of class in this country. It's exactly the same as wealthy people like Donald Trump being considered very smart when they make "strategic" bankruptcies. But the poor are told that they are swine for filing for bankruptcy - deadbeats, losers, morally decrepit.

It's one set of rules for wealthy, and another set for the rest of us.

This is all about class. It's not about the tired mommy wars (oh shoot me now, who gives a shit? if there is anything less interesting to a single woman who has chosen not to have children then listening to that mind-numbingly boring, self-congratulatory back and forth, I don't know of it.). It's not about whether a couple of times in her pampered life Ann actually got shit on her hands from a diaper (I doubt it, but accidents do happen and maids get sick). It's about one set of rules for Mitt Romney, and another set of rules for everyone else.

And that's what they right wants to make certain no one realizes, and it's why the jumped on that idiot Rosen's comments with orgasmic glee. Because it gives them yet another opportunity to fool some poor, stupid, ignorant, hillbilly idiot, knee-deep in piss soaked diapers and hamburger helper that she is just like Ann!

It's laughable.
 
LMAO... oh poor Darla... the liberal parroting made you look stupid and now you are lashing out. You really think that running around screaming that the kids must be lying, simply because it doesn't fit the liberal narrative is going to change reality?

You made yourself look ignorant by repeating such nonsense in a vain attempt to attack Ann Romney.

The fact is that as of 2010 she had five housekeepers. We don't know how many she had back then because they often paid people off the books back then. You may remember some of the controversies that have occurred over the years when someone with these kinds of tax problems were appointed. Things have changed. But that doesn't mean that what they were doing back then won't be dug up. I think it will be. You are insisting that she had no help and you have no idea if that's true.

But I bet you will find out before all is said and done.
 
LMAO I'm sure she was struggling with no staff at all in 1998.

Whatever SF. She's got nothing in common with your average woman, and if she's advising Mitt on the economic concerns of average women, maybe she needs to get a job so she can get some dignity and then comment. That's what Mitt says anyway. Shrug.

She had a nanny growing up, I am sure the trend continued in her own household!
 
The fact is that as of 2010 she had five housekeepers. We don't know how many she had back then because they often paid people off the books back then. You may remember some of the controversies that have occurred over the years when someone with these kinds of tax problems were appointed. Things have changed. But that doesn't mean that what they were doing back then won't be dug up. I think it will be. You are insisting that she had no help and you have no idea if that's true.

But I bet you will find out before all is said and done.

In 2010, it was four... why must you liberals always exaggerate. I do have an idea. The now adult children have stated they didn't. What tax problems are you referring to? Is this another 'we proclaim it, thus it must be so' liberal hack attack?
 
In 2010, it was four... why must you liberals always exaggerate. I do have an idea. The now adult children have stated they didn't. What tax problems are you referring to? Is this another 'we proclaim it, thus it must be so' liberal hack attack?

One adult child said they had no full time nanny. Nanny is an interesting word.

I am referring to the tax problems one encounters when it is discovered one has been paying their domestic help off the books...it's even been known to happen that said domestic help are illegal aliens.

Not for one second do I believe she went from having no help to having five housekeepers alone by 2010. I wonder who is looking into this story? I see a former housekeeper on 60 minutes in his future.
 
The blind hatred poured out by the extreme left on Ann Romney is a mere foreshadowing of things to come. Liberals are simply incapable of restraining their anger.
 
The blind hatred poured out by the extreme left on Ann Romney is a mere foreshadowing of things to come. Liberals are simply incapable of restraining their anger.

exactly. It is quite amazing how they all 'know' what the Romney's did and didn't do 20 years ago. Yet not one has provided one single piece of evidence to back up their nonsense.
 
The blind hatred poured out by the extreme left on Ann Romney is a mere foreshadowing of things to come. Liberals are simply incapable of restraining their anger.

I don't hate her at all. I will not allow this privileged wealthy woman, to divide average women by reigniting the tiresome mommy wars.

She has nothing in common with average stay at home moms, or average working moms.

Period.

And she isn't going to present herself any other way. She will not be permitted to.
 
The blind hatred poured out by the extreme left on Ann Romney is a mere foreshadowing of things to come. Liberals are simply incapable of restraining their anger.

And it will not do well for them. They are mad that she made Hillary Rosen look like an ass, and are now trying to make it look like she meant something different. Stay at home parents are valuable, and if that is the career choice of a parent it adds to society. To say she didn't work as a lawyer and therefore is valueless is a disgusting projection. I understand that the Democrats don't value my wife, but they are sure happy to bring her up when they want to dismiss her value and tell me that it is "giving myself airs" to compare two women who chose the same profession solely because they believe that he is richer than I am and therefore holds "more value" as a human.
 
I don't hate her at all. I will not allow this privileged wealthy woman, to divide average women by reigniting the tiresome mommy wars.

She has nothing in common with average stay at home moms, or average working moms.

Yeah, because Darla said so!!!!

Tell us Darla, how many kids do you have again? What's that? None? so who the fuck are you to say what actual mothers have in common with each other? You are not a mother, how the fuck would you know anything about what the average mother goes through?

Oh that's right...you don't. Ann Romney knows far more about motherhood than you.

Period.

And she isn't going to present herself any other way. She will not be permitted to.

Yeah, because Darla a non mother, is going to tell us what we should all think and believe and Darla the non mother is going to tell us what it takes to be a mother, because Darla a non mother clearly has ample experience with which to judge Ann Romney with.
 
I'm not putting her in the cross hairs, nor am I attacking her. I am pointing out a few things:

-Few women in america enjoy the "choice" Ann made in staying home.
-of those who do, even fewer have the staff Ann enjoys.
-Her husband has come out and said that poor women who are stay at home moms, need to go to work to get "dignity".
-making the statement that ann romney never worked a day in her life (badly stated, and hyperbolic) is NOT saying that stay at home moms do not work. Ann herself conflated those two things, and further, referred to the entire debate as an "early birthday present".
-once a president or presidential candidate names his wife as the person who is advising him on women's economic concerns, her qualifications and experience with women's economic concerns needs to be examined.

BTW Mott, Ann can take it. She clearly is enjoying it since she called it an early birthday present. She dished it out fast enough. She wants it. I'm giving it to her.

She doesn't need you to ride in on your white horse yelling "leave the lady alone".

The ladies can duke this out without your protection.
Oooooo! CATFIGHT!!!
 
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Yeah, because Darla said so!!!!

Tell us Darla, how many kids do you have again? What's that? None? so who the fuck are you to say what actual mothers have in common with each other? You are not a mother, how the fuck would you know anything about what the average mother goes through?

Oh that's right...you don't. Ann Romney knows far more about motherhood than you.

Period.



Yeah, because Darla a non mother, is going to tell us what we should all think and believe and Darla the non mother is going to tell us what it takes to be a mother, because Darla a non mother clearly has ample experience with which to judge Ann Romney with.

I have already stated that as a childless single woman, i am bored to death of the mommy self-important mommy wars. They are and always have been about 95% wanking.

However, I believe I have explained why this is a class issue, and that affects us all. It's not my problem if you can't read.
 
And it will not do well for them. They are mad that she made Hillary Rosen look like an ass, and are now trying to make it look like she meant something different. Stay at home parents are valuable, and if that is the career choice of a parent it adds to society. To say she didn't work as a lawyer and therefore is valueless is a disgusting projection. I understand that the Democrats don't value my wife, but they are sure happy to bring her up when they want to dismiss her value and tell me that it is "giving myself airs" to compare two women who chose the same profession solely because they believe that he is richer than I am and therefore holds "more value" as a human.

She didn't make Rosen look like an ass. Rosen is a not very intelligent democratic operative...though perhaps I repeat myself. I'm not mad.

We are at record highs of economic inequality. There has been a class war waged, and won, with only one side having taken the field.

I am interested solely in the class aspects of this argument, and the fact that I even want to acknowledge class is what angers so many on the right who really want to believe we live in a classless society. Which of course, we do not.
 
I have already stated that as a childless single woman, i am bored to death of the mommy self-important mommy wars. They are and always have been about 95% wanking.

However, I believe I have explained why this is a class issue, and that affects us all. It's not my problem if you can't read.

Yet you have stated clearly that Ann Romney has nothing in common with other stay at home moms. That is where you are 100% wrong and you are in no place to pass that judgement since you haven't been there. You have no idea what you are talking about. You are just angry and venting that anger against Ann Romney in a child like manner. So enough of the tantrum. Try acting like an adult again.
 
I'd just like to say how wonderful it is that posters like SF and Damo have so quickly and seemlessly made the transition to full-blown Romney-apologist mode.

Damo had a brief foray into Gingrich apologism, but it's good to see his pragmatic side win the day...
 
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