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And Trump is not past changing his personality?
What I am thinking about is going 3rd party or Trump. I have to decide if voting for Trump as a gambit is worth it.
else I'm just sitting it out 3rd party.
and...I've been doing 3rd party..and it's extremely unsatisfying
 
i'm not thrilled with free stuff when we have upcoming entitlement crisis. our debt is now 19$T plus. That's more then our GDP.
I do want single pay though -it's most cost effective

Clinton has an armful of new taxes waiting for jobs, blah blah.
At some point we need to figure in how to pay for what we are doing now..i don't know about you but I severely need my SSA checks

PS..you have no concerns about the TPP/Syrian TPS? /more Libyan wars

Back in the good O' days school was cheap, the reason is tax payers invested in it..

Back in the good O' days roads & bridges weren't crumbling, the reason was tax payers invested in it..

Back in the good O' days :blah: :blah: :blah:, the reason was tax payers invested in it..

& you know what??? Taxes where higher, much higher, back in the good O' days..

She can have all the new taxes she wants, just keep in mind it is congress w/ the purse, not her........
 
What I am thinking about is going 3rd party or Trump. I have to decide if voting for Trump as a gambit is worth it.
else I'm just sitting it out 3rd party.
and...I've been doing 3rd party..and it's extremely unsatisfying

Is it less satisfying than voting for trumpf & he loses??

We have known each other a long time & have prb covered the gamut in our debates & arguments & agreed much more than we disagreed but I think your mind is pretty well made up @ this point, but I do ask that you keep an open mind & that you gauge trumpf w/ the same measure you did bill clinton, bush's, obama, McCain, Kerry etc..
 
What I am thinking about is going 3rd party or Trump. I have to decide if voting for Trump as a gambit is worth it.
else I'm just sitting it out 3rd party.
and...I've been doing 3rd party..and it's extremely unsatisfying

It's worth it because if he screws up, he gets voted out of office in four years. You're allowing yourself to be seduced by Hillary supporters. Now use your head.

Voting third party helps Hillary get elected and they know it and so should you. Why don't you help out your fellow Americans in the middle class for a change and push the button for Trump?
 
It's worth it because if he screws up, he gets voted out of office in four years. You're allowing yourself to be seduced by Hillary supporters. Now use your head.

Voting third party helps Hillary get elected and they know it and so should you. Why don't you help out your fellow Americans in the middle class for a change and push the button for Trump?

A vote for Jill Stein does not help hillary.. Johnson maybe, but if the trumpf continues to swim w/ the current in his spiral down the drain, it aint gonna matter much..
 
Is it less satisfying than voting for trumpf & he loses??

We have known each other a long time & have prb covered the gamut in our debates & arguments & agreed much more than we disagreed but I think your mind is pretty well made up @ this point, but I do ask that you keep an open mind & that you gauge trumpf w/ the same measure you did bill clinton, bush's, obama, McCain, Kerry etc..
believe me. The last couple weeks have shown me it's impossible to beat Hillary's machine
(money and the press)with a candidate who can't play/understand politics.

aside from his personality -a big asaide- I really think he would be much better as POTUS-
in that Clinton will be a turd.

losing in politics never bothers me - I got used to that back in '68 when Bobby was killed, and '72 when we had McGovern
as a flawed peace candidate.
I see a lot of similarities to Nixon and Clinton..back then I thought our nation could heal,,but we got a bunch of really
shitty choices the parties keep putting up, and now I pretty much give up on Constitutional rule.

Bernie was the last shot to defeat the oligarchy - so we get the warmongering corporatist..... that's how it goes.
 
Back in the good O' days school was cheap, the reason is tax payers invested in it..

Back in the good O' days roads & bridges weren't crumbling, the reason was tax payers invested in it..

Back in the good O' days :blah: :blah: :blah:, the reason was tax payers invested in it..

& you know what??? Taxes where higher, much higher, back in the good O' days..

She can have all the new taxes she wants, just keep in mind it is congress w/ the purse, not her........
cute. everybody talks infrastructure -nobody want to even raise gas taxes. If I though 'mo money' would be useful -i'd support it.
But it will go to "jobs programs" and assorted wastes instead
 
It's worth it because if he screws up, he gets voted out of office in four years. You're allowing yourself to be seduced by Hillary supporters. Now use your head.

Voting third party helps Hillary get elected and they know it and so should you. Why don't you help out your fellow Americans in the middle class for a change and push the button for Trump?
Trump will need to reverse course..I don't think he can do it.
I'll watch the debates
 
cute. everybody talks infrastructure -nobody want to even raise gas taxes. If I though 'mo money' would be useful -i'd support it.
But it will go to "jobs programs" and assorted wastes instead

Hopefully it will be more than make work as there is some serious catching up to do..

That is where I hope Bernie will use his new well earned clout, as well as some help from Warren to keep whoever is the next president in line..
 
Hopefully it will be more than make work as there is some serious catching up to do..

That is where I hope Bernie will use his new well earned clout, as well as some help from Warren to keep whoever is the next president in line..
Putting hope in Bernie....I don't see it -but then I'm not a Progressive.

Trump/Clinton/Congress -everybody wants better infrastructure.
The trouble with Democrats is that they can't say no to ANY increased spending.
If we don't get some damn GDP growth nothing is gonna happen
 
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