America's first female president.

Rana said:
Lol, feel that strongly. I will probably be voting Green Party, but I haven't decided this early, :)
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how do you go from voting libertarian in 2012 to green to possibly voting democrat? I think you are having a political identity crisis rana.

(note to all board libertarians, we really need to propagandize rana to get her over to our side).
 
Totally Tornado said:
how do you go from voting libertarian in 2012 to green to possibly voting democrat? I think you are having a political identity crisis rana.

(note to all board libertarians, we really need to propagandize rana to get her over to our side).
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I am frustrated and I do have a political identity crisis because they all piss me off.

I said it was early, so I am open to persuasion!
 
I literally don't see any redeeming qualities in hillary. I know you guys expect me to say that, but really, you shouldn't. I think Obama is very likeable and personable. I like biden too. Warren as I said, despite being another marxist in the wings, at least seems genuine to me.

Hilary I just think she is faking everything. She basically randomly threw a dart at a map of the united states to see where she can get her stepping stone senate seat. I think she fake cried in 2008, I think she just uses the plebs for her own goals, I don't think she cares about anything other than her own success. Whenever I see her talk I just think she is lying 100% of the time. I literally am incapable (not unwilling, incapable) of seeing her as a human being. She's a political robot.
 
Totally Tornado said:
Clinton on the other hand has dedicated her whole life to climbing the ladder of power for powers sake. I don't trust her at all.
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Neither do I. I didn't like her running in 2008, I didn't like her as Sec. of State and I'm really not crazy about her for President. Frankly, I have not seen what the left admires in her so much. I like Elizabeth Warren a lot more, but she has important work to do in the Senate.
 
cawacko said:
I'm a Republican male so chances are high that my view of Hillary as a role model will differ from a Democratic female (or woman if you would like Darla). I see Hillary as a strong, smart and driven woman. I see Bill and Hillary as a power couple and I don't know if they get where they are without each other. Christi mentioned Hillary being betrayed by Bill but to me Hillary knew all along what Bill was doing. There was a basic agreement between them (whether spoken or unspoken) that if Bill was going to fool around that he not get caught in a compromising situation that would embarrass them and hurt their long-term goals. This is not to suggest Hillary liked or condoned Bill's cheating but she knew the kind of guy he was and she had high ambitions for both of them so she was willing to look away as long as there were no problems.

Does that make her role model material? I'd say that's up to each person to decide for themselves. One person is probably not going to be a role model to all people.

As for Elizabeth Warren deserving to be President because she "made it" without the help of her husband well there are lots of women who have followed that path so I'm not sure what makes Mrs. Warren more deserving than any others based on that criteria.
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I don't understand comments about Hillary's high ambitions for both of them. How do you (or anyone) determine that? I read her book and she's not who the right and some of the left portrays her. She's an easterner who from Chicago, went east to school, struggled with the idea of moving to Arkansas, and almost didn't. She took a low-level job in a law firm because at the time women couldn't do better. She fought the old boys' network all her working life. She and Bill didn't always have the same goals, especially after he became an ex-governor. She's a brilliant person in her own right yet always seems to get tagged as riding to success on Bill's coat tails.
 
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Jarod said:
She is another great roll model for women, she made a huge mistake regarding the Iraq war but that should not take away from her successes and what she accomplished and where she started.

However, EW got where she is and still was able to have a family and raise children. She stayed home and gave up major chunks of her career, yet came back in the career world to accomplish something huge. I want my daughters to have that choice and to know its possible.
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A bit off-topic, but Hillary was only able to have Chelsea after a long struggle with fertility problems. She stated in her book that they would have loved to have more kids.
 
Totally Tornado said:
I literally don't see any redeeming qualities in hillary. I know you guys expect me to say that, but really, you shouldn't. I think Obama is very likeable and personable. I like biden too. Warren as I said, despite being another marxist in the wings, at least seems genuine to me.

Hilary I just think she is faking everything. She basically randomly threw a dart at a map of the united states to see where she can get her stepping stone senate seat. I think she fake cried in 2008, I think she just uses the plebs for her own goals, I don't think she cares about anything other than her own success. Whenever I see her talk I just think she is lying 100% of the time. I literally am incapable (not unwilling, incapable) of seeing her as a human being. She's a political robot.
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I get that, because it's pretty much the same way I feel about Palin.
 
"Crack pot", according to libs. As I've said many times before: "Ridicule, the first vestige of the weak liberal mind."
 
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