Americans Paid $90 Billion MORE In Taxes After Republican Tax Cut

Considering health care is the #1 expenditure in this country, 17% of GDP, and the largest part of our federal budget, it's not a diversion, it's the whole fucking point.

The point was the irresponsible spending programs proposed by Democrats. I did not mention healthcare. But Democrats will never raise taxes enough to cover all that spending including healthcare. Plus, they will never happen.
 
The point was the irresponsible spending programs proposed by Democrats..

M4A is not irresponsible because it's funded by payroll taxes!

Free Public Colleges and forgiving student debt isn't irresponsible because it's funded by tax increases on the rich.

Why are we having a circular discussion here?

You can't say it's "irresponsible" when you're also saying it's funded by taxes!

WTF?
 
No it's not.

And whether or not it is measured in terms of the fiscal year doesn't change the fact that the first 12 months of the Russia Tax Cut saw less revenue than the 12 months prior to it.

When government reports revenues and expenditures it does so for the fiscal year.

"Fiscal year - The fiscal year is the accounting period for the federal government which begins on October 1 and ends on September 30. The fiscal year is designated by the calendar year in which it ends; for example, fiscal year 2013 begins on October 1, 2012 and ends on September 30, 2013. Congress passes appropriations legislation to fund the government for every fiscal year."
 
No it's not.

And whether or not it is measured in terms of the fiscal year doesn't change the fact that the first 12 months of the Russia Tax Cut saw less revenue than the 12 months prior to it.

When government reports revenues and expenditures it does so for the fiscal year.

"Fiscal year - The fiscal year is the accounting period for the federal government which begins on October 1 and ends on September 30. The fiscal year is designated by the calendar year in which it ends; for example, fiscal year 2013 begins on October 1, 2012 and ends on September 30, 2013. Congress passes appropriations legislation to fund the government for every fiscal year."
 
I did not mention healthcare.

Well, see, this is why you're a sophist.

You generally and vaguely say Democratic programs are irresponsible, yet when I go into the detail of one of those programs and show how it's not "irresponsible" (which is also a moving goalpost you are shifting), you say "I never said health care". Well, you said "Democratic programs"...and M4A is a Democratic program. So...you wanna retract your statement?


But Democrats will never raise taxes enough to cover all that spending including healthcare.

What makes you say that?

Democrats have been calling for a top tax rate of 70%, including Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren, two of the top three candidates for the nomination.

So you're acting in bad faith, as usual.
 
Plus, they will never happen.

Not with that attitude, they won't.

Thankfully, yours isn't a vote we don't really care about anyway. You're not the voter we're trying to reach; we want voters who actually aren't lazy assholes.
 
Well, see, this is why you're a sophist.

You generally and vaguely say Democratic programs are irresponsible, yet when I go into the detail of one of those programs and show how it's not "irresponsible" (which is also a moving goalpost you are shifting), you say "I never said health care". Well, you said "Democratic programs"...and M4A is a Democratic program. So...you wanna retract your statement?




What makes you say that?

Democrats have been calling for a top tax rate of 70%, including Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren, two of the top three candidates for the nomination.

So you're acting in bad faith, as usual.

What they call for and what Congress does are two separate things.
 
Not with that attitude, they won't.

Thankfully, yours isn't a vote we don't really care about anyway. You're not the voter we're trying to reach; we want voters who actually aren't lazy assholes.

But you can't win with only 1-2 million voters.
 
When government reports revenues and expenditures it does so for the fiscal year.

Right here is a running tabulation of Treasury's monthly statements.

This is the only sole resource anyone can use to determine what actual revenue was collected.

When you compare the first 12 months of the Russia Tax Cut to the preceding 12 months, you find that the first 12 months of the Russia Tax Cut saw about a $60B drop in revenues from the prior year.

When the government budget is up does not have anything to do with the revenues collected by the government each month.

Also, the Russia Tax Cut didn't start on the FY, it started on the Calendar year.
 
Tax cuts for the rich and big Corporations:

The tax cuts went to everyone who pays taxes. Why do you continue to LIE about this?

Tax cuts A. grows budget deficits

This is a LIE because revenues continue to go up. SPENDING more than you take in grows budget deficits. Why is that such a difficult math problem for leftists? We do not have a revenue problem in this country; we have a SPENDING problem.

Tax cuts B. grows political contributions for the GOP

LIE and LAME. Why do you feel compelled to LIE about EVERYTHING?

Tax cutsC. DOES NOT grow jobs and never has ( remember the bush tax cuts)

Yes they do grow jobs which is why unemployment is at a 50 year low and revenues are higher this year than last year. Why LIE about EVERYTHING?
 
Just because you cannot understand the Repub long term policy is to crank up the debt until they can end all social programs, does not mean we do not know what they are doing. They also increase spending claiming our enormous army and military budget are too low. This has gone on since Reagan.
We spend more than the next 10 nations combined and always need an increase. You don't understand what they are doing. You cannot. But we do.

More BULL SHIT; you seem to be quite full of it. ;)
 
But you can't win with only 1-2 million voters.

Well, that's the difference between us; I think most voters aren't lazy, just disconnected from the process because politics are catering to a small subsection of bad faith assholes who demand comfort and accommodation of their BoTh SiDeS posturing.

If we didn't have to cater to those scumfucks and instead drove turnout by engaging enthusiasm for things like M4A and forgiving student debt, we'd get a Congress that would do what the voters wanted instead of the triangulation that has only depressed turnout and made big ideas not achievable.
 
How "long term" a policy is this? It has been occurring since Regan and Republicans continue to increase domestic spending. Has anyone actually introduced legislation or sought to eliminate any social programs from the budget?

This claim has about the same level of credibility as the "deep state" or that Mueller was involved in a plot to get Trump. Always easier to make wild claims than seek to understand daily complexities.

The problem is that these "social" programs and their subsequent INCREASES are mandated by law. Professional politicians on BOTH sides of the aisle do not have an appetite to take away that which their constituents are now trained to expect.

That is the reason Pelosi and the Party of the Jackass passed Obamacare not knowing what was actually in the bill. The object was to get it passed regardless of the financial implications knowing that once something becomes law that has free giveaways, it is nearly impossible to rescind.
 
Corporations had more income and paid no taxes.

LIE and LAME. Give us a link proving that corporations paid no taxes.

By the way, corporations don't actually pay taxes. They pass that cost along to idiots like you who don't know how the REAL world works and swallows the bullshit CNN feeds them.
 
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