America now 3rd world

You use a derogatory term with which I am unfamiliar. Is it the racist mode of reference to Asians? Naturally I am in the USA. In China I would not be speaking to such ignorant persons.

In China you would not have the access to the internet that you do. And you would probably be doing manual labor.
 
China is crucial to the illuminati plan. The plan is to centralize most material production in china, thus destroying all capacity for other nations to survive without the central global economy and the bankers controlling it.
 
What can you know about China or my role? Respectful persons who benefit from adequate education recognize and cherish insights offered by wiser individuals.

Observe that USA is in decline militarily and economically while China advances.
 
I address the question of ignorance of historical events revealed by USA-educated persons.

Colonialist racist imperialists were able to suborn the great culture and commerce of China through vile means.

Opium was introduced to China by perfidious colonialist exploiters using illlicit means and the subsequent collapse of the dynastic system of government allowed more than a century of degradation of the noble Chinese people.

Mao Zedong led the nation to throw off the imperialist yoke and restored China to the rightful place of greatest power.

Mao Zedong? The man who orchestrated the Great Leap Forward which in turn caused the greatest famine in mankind's history???

He is responsible for starving millions of his countrymen to death so he could force the change to a modern society without waiting for the changes.
 
What can you know about China or my role? Respectful persons who benefit from adequate education recognize and cherish insights offered by wiser individuals.
Observe that USA is in decline militarily and economically while China advances.

Thats funny. You are not trying to learn anything. You simply want to preach about how great China is and how bad the USA is currently doing.

And you have made no attempto to discover who here is educated or wise. (except that you claim disagreeing with you shows the lack of education)
 
Mao Zedong? The man who orchestrated the Great Leap Forward which in turn caused the greatest famine in mankind's history???

He is responsible for starving millions of his countrymen to death so he could force the change to a modern society without waiting for the changes.


What are you arguing about? The globalization you love so much is guaranteeing china's ascendancy, as corporate profit is put ahead of all other concerns, social, military, or otherwise.
 
The question of wisdom and education is settled by a dispassionate review of facts.

USA is below achievements of China in many respects, and is declining. China is greater in population and land. Soon we will surpass America in all desirable measures.
 
The world dominated by America has come to the end.

I know most USA citizens are poorly educated, self-obsessed and obese. Your refusal of the evident facts does not surprise anyone, I am certain.

Think of economic prowess.

Look in your home for something manufactured in USA. What can you find? Now perform a search for items made in China.

If China calls in the money USA owes Chinese, Americans will be dispossessed with immediate effect.

Consider armed power.

Who has the largest military, USA or China? China has never lost any war. USA has lost many, and US Army is small and weak.

Some of what you say is true .. but there is a reason why England controlled Hong Kong and forced China to accept british opium dealers .. they lost.
 
The question of wisdom and education is settled by a dispassionate review of facts.

USA is below achievements of China in many respects, and is declining. China is greater in population and land. Soon we will surpass America in all desirable measures.

Really? How about personal freedom? Let me know when you manage that one?


Here we are on a forum that delights in posting volumous critiques of our leaders. Have you tried that in China??



The freedoms we enjoy are what is most important. The rest if just decoration.
 
The question of wisdom and education is settled by a dispassionate review of facts.

USA is below achievements of China in many respects, and is declining. China is greater in population and land. Soon we will surpass America in all desirable measures.

Actually, the US is slightly larger than China in land mass. Granted a large portion is in AK, but I thought I would point out the facts to educate such an ignorant young fool.

Given that the US has the ability to feed its population and China does not, who do you suppose is in the better position?

It will take many decades for China to get its per capita benefits (food, shelter, overall lifestyle) to the level of the US.
 
Please consult education.yahoo.com/reference/factbook/countrycompare/area/3d.html;_ylt=Atnn73h3Lf8mqC9cxWtoDYHPecYF

Ask yourself: Is China losing two wars to tiny bands of brigands in degrading shameful circumstances?

USA is disgraced and defeated in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Is China's economy ruined by capitalist greed and mismanagement?

USA has lost millions of occupations and much of it's capital.

We are not concerned with USA propaganda. Much of your grain and other commodity exports are purchased by China. USA wheat output is typically exceeded by China, the European Union, and, sometimes, India.

You talk of freedom to complain. What have I to complain of?

Your arrogance is misplaced given your nation's decline in prestige and power.

Educate yourself. english.people.com.cn/
 
Please consult education.yahoo.com/reference/factbook/countrycompare/area/3d.html;_ylt=Atnn73h3Lf8mqC9cxWtoDYHPecYF

OK. Is the greatness of a nation in any way judged by its total landmass?

Ask yourself: Is China losing two wars to tiny bands of brigands in degrading shameful circumstances?

HAHA. They are disorganized insurgents. If we used China-style tactics and did it in full force half the population of Afghanistan and Iraq would be dead, but sure, we would have had a Pyrrhic victory. We defeated the Iraqui government in about a week, we've been dealing with disorganized militias which are difficult to contain since then, and it hasn't been exactly a "losing" ordeal as much as a stalemate. Again, we haven't been putting our full effort into this.

USA is disgraced and defeated in Iraq and Afghanistan.

How are you defining "defeated"? It's absurd to say that we are in "defeat" at the current state of things.


Is China's economy ruined by capitalist greed and mismanagement?

China has a per capita income of 6000. No US state is even close to that low. The only regions that even come close are Appalachia and the Delta. A great deal of China's population lives in the extremely poor western end. China has FEWER labor protections than even America, and no guarantee of health care, which is incredible for a supposedly socialist country.

USA has lost millions of occupations and much of it's capital.

This is so vague as to be meaningless. Of course the unemployment rate has gone up. This happens from time to time. It was 8% in the 80's too, that didn't lead to gloom and doom.

We are not concerned with USA propaganda.

You can be not concerned all you want. I am simply trying to make a rational argument. A rational argument is not "propaganda".


Much of your grain and other commodity exports are purchased by China. USA wheat output is typically exceeded by China, the European Union, and, sometimes, India.

Great. You are still in the agriculture phase of economic development. Congratulations.


You talk of freedom to complain. What have I to complain of?

Plenty of things. No society is perfect. You execute thousands of people every year, for instance, which is an unbelievable atrocity. China has no concern for human rights and refuses to feed their poor. The government-corporate partnerships are incredibly inefficient. China is not so much growing as catching up. It's economic system is better than its old one but still not as good as the free market. It will never approach the US on per capita basis until liberals take control and institute market and democratic reforms. The US + EU will be more powerful until then, even with CHinas far far greater population.



Your arrogance is misplaced given your nation's decline in prestige and power.

I have no arrogance. I am perfectly willing to recognize my countries weaknesses. It's ironic that you accuse ME of being arrogant when your entire speech completely glossed over CHina's flaws.

Educate yourself. english.people.com.cn/

I'll educate myself from a neutral resource, thankyou very much.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_the_People's_Republic_of_China#Labor_and_welfare
 
OK. Is the greatness of a nation in any way judged by its total landmass?



HAHA. They are disorganized insurgents. If we used China-style tactics and did it in full force half the population of Afghanistan and Iraq would be dead, but sure, we would have had a Pyrrhic victory. We defeated the Iraqui government in about a week, we've been dealing with disorganized militias which are difficult to contain since then, and it hasn't been exactly a "losing" ordeal as much as a stalemate. Again, we haven't been putting our full effort into this.



How are you defining "defeated"? It's absurd to say that we are in "defeat" at the current state of things.




China has a per capita income of 6000. No US state is even close to that low. The only regions that even come close are Appalachia and the Delta. A great deal of China's population lives in the extremely poor western end. China has FEWER labor protections than even America, and no guarantee of health care, which is incredible for a supposedly socialist country.



This is so vague as to be meaningless. Of course the unemployment rate has gone up. This happens from time to time. It was 8% in the 80's too, that didn't lead to gloom and doom.



You can be not concerned all you want. I am simply trying to make a rational argument. A rational argument is not "propaganda".




Great. You are still in the agriculture phase of economic development. Congratulations.




Plenty of things. No society is perfect. You execute thousands of people every year, for instance, which is an unbelievable atrocity. China has no concern for human rights and refuses to feed their poor. The government-corporate partnerships are incredibly inefficient. China is not so much growing as catching up. It's economic system is better than its old one but still not as good as the free market. It will never approach the US on per capita basis until liberals take control and institute market and democratic reforms. The US + EU will be more powerful until then, even with CHinas far far greater population.





I have no arrogance. I am perfectly willing to recognize my countries weaknesses. It's ironic that you accuse ME of being arrogant when your entire speech completely glossed over CHina's flaws.



I'll educate myself from a neutral resource, thankyou very much.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_the_People's_Republic_of_China#Labor_and_welfare

Okay, this could easily be your best post ever. I LOL'ed quite a bit.

:BKick:
 
Watermark, why then does your every utterance seem to be supporting the absurd globalism which is guaranteeing china's rise. Yellow peril is right, because of idiots like you. Our leaders are happy to get payola to embrace china, the corporations ar happy to profit. any people who would complain you dismiss as populists.
 
What you're all missing is that the internationalist fascist stupidity of our rulers is making yellow peril correct in his assertions.
 
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