The fact that you don't even know says volumes about you.
Why not stick to your lane in the goof off forums??
Allies despair as Trump abandons America's leadership role at a time of global crisis
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The fact that you don't even know says volumes about you.
Why not stick to your lane in the goof off forums??
Matt Dillon
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Umm.."Fuck off and die, you commie fuck."?
I suggest you pony the fuck up and elaborate on what our allies do for us or STFU.
I'm waiting..boy.
As far as the NBA and various other corporations go, the problem there isn't China investing in other countries -- it's that the greed of American corporations is stronger than any ethical concerns they have regarding China. The NBA and various other corporations have a lot of their own money invested in China. Because of that, they seek to appease China's government whenever possible.
In short, that's a problem with putting profit above morals. Granted, corporations have rarely demonstrated much moral fortitude. What they tend to do instead is posture concerning issues in the West. We have "woke capitalism" that will bloviate about whatever social justice issue is the flavor of the month, all the while ignoring any injustices in countries with a lot of money and authoritarian regimes.
It rings pretty hollow when various NBA players make a big stink over Ahmaud Arbery while ignoring or downplaying what China has been doing in Hong Kong, for example.
I can't really take Lebron James seriously about any social issue after seeing his pathetic attempt to defend the Chinese government's behavior.
EXACTLY MY POINT....
You have multi-billion dollar companies kowtowing to that money gawd, you don't think those poor developing countries w/ no where near the cash or clout are going to act differently?? That is the power/one of the perks I was mentioning...I think you have a good grasp on the problem..
This is how Bannon puts it : "Corporate America today is the lobbying arm of the Chinese Communist Party and Wall Street is the investor relations department," Steve Bannon.
EXACTLY MY POINT....
I think you have a good grasp on the problem..
This is how Bannon puts it : "Corporate America today is the lobbying arm of the Chinese Communist Party and Wall Street is the investor relations department," Steve Bannon.
Bannon was right about a lot of things, but that's exactly why the media hated him. A lot of the media is owned by Wall Street, in fact.
I agree that these poor countries are vulnerable and will bend to China's will under many circumstances, but there's something else to consider.
Ever since the Cold War, we've been the world's policeman. Trade in and of itself doesn't require being that role, but it often becomes that way if you want to protect certain investments. My argument is that we should be very selective about where we invest, so as to avoid any unnecessary police actions. China is currently focusing a lot on soft power, but inevitably, much of their role will shift to the world's policeman as they expand in influence. Once they reach that point, they're going to learn just how expensive that role is.
I think we'll do just fine by getting less involved, and the world will likely think better of us as a result. As things currently stand, a lot of the world resents our influence, so letting China take our place in some areas will remind them of why we're a better choice.
Most certainly agree w/ don't need to be the worlds police man & we are spending as much or close to what the rest of the world spends on the military.
While we police the seas the CCP reaps the benefits... Wasting trillions in the ME is just that, a waste.....
They've said they are not interested in playing that role but we'll see, they certainly won't want to pay for it...
Well, to be fair, if we withdraw, China won't be the only player. Russia will definitely make certain moves as well, but as you said, we currently are paying for this role while they reap the benefits.
It should be interesting to see how China and Russia compete in this role if we do withdraw some.
Yep, it will be...... While they are cooperating on some things, Russia is even a big stop along the belt & road, but the CCP has their sights on huge parts of that country. Like most, if not all of Siberia..
Russia is trying in Libya, but is thwarted by Turks who sent in Syrian "fighters" (FSA types).
Russia and Iran are only in a transactional alliance that can fall apart at any time.
Russia is trying to run Syria ( and trying to get rid of Assad now too) - and that's going to be all they can handle except for maybe some arms sales to Egypt and such.
Russia has no economic power. China uses that as soft power, and has that going backed by a military
Big rivals for the Arctic oil reserves as well
Bigdog
Harris - make America a 3rd world shithole
I recall the Bill Cosby I knew on DCJ lauding the Chinese economic system 10 years ago.
Your Op is an opinion piece. It is Chinese propaganda. There are no facts to refute, merely opinion.
Get rid of assad?? Why?? Who are they going to install & are the turks & Americans-IRAN on board w/ that??
Yep... China is already nosing around up there.. Once they got them by the economic balls, things will get a lot worse for them...
I recall the Bill Cosby I knew on DCJ lauding the Chinese economic system 10 years ago.
Your Op is an opinion piece. It is Chinese propaganda. There are no facts to refute, merely opinion.
To bad you can't link to that & refresh my memory...... 10 years ago we rarely if ever talked about China....
You can believe what you like about my "opinion piece"....... I don't require anyone to agree w/ it.......
99.9% of what I post about the CCP is negative........
What I hope you would do is try to refute it, w/ some facts..... I would appreciate the help, thnx..
Apparently Russia looks at Assad as a liability now:
https://www.trtworld.com/magazine/the-russia-syria-alliance-is-no-longer-what-it-used-to-be-36007
....Now, while the regime has taken much of the country back, Bashar al Assad does not seem to be ready to heed Russia’s advice to compromise with his enemies and lay out the country’s future as corruption levels move from bad to worse across the board.
Some experts think that Iran could be the main reason for Assad’s defiance against Russians....
Russia has no desire to see its geopolitical control to be diminished in Syria by Iran’s increasing political clout over Assad. While Iran and Russia appear to have a joint front against Turkey in Syria, they also have stark differences,” Yalinkilicli told TRT World.
While Assad is defiant in front of Moscow, he is also well aware of his own troubles as different opposition groups still challenge his authority inside Syria.
In addition to political problems, the country’s finances have continued to suffer in the absence of international aid and planning for a possible reconstruction that the Russians aim to mobilise.....
Bigdog
Harris - make America a 3rd world shithole
To bad you can't link to that & refresh my memory...... 10 years ago we rarely if ever talked about China....
You can believe what you like about my "opinion piece"....... I don't require anyone to agree w/ it.......
99.9% of what I post about the CCP is negative........
What I hope you would do is try to refute it, w/ some facts..... I would appreciate the help, thnx..
Your Op, like most leftwing news, is just opinion and speculation, Bill.
The only facts are that they hate Donald Trump and wouldn't listen to him anyway.
And of course, China's amazing GDP growth was discussed back then. But don't worry about it.
Russia and China in the Arctic: Cooperation, Competition, and Consequences
https://carnegie.ru/commentary/81407
Cooperation between international players in the High North is taking place amid an atmosphere of renewed
U.S.-Russian confrontation, as well as increasing rivalry between the United States and China.
The U.S. government views Russia’s activity in the Arctic and China’s newfound presence in the region as a threat to the West.1 Russia, in turn, has expressed concern about the growing U.S. and NATO military activity in Europe’s North and the adjacent seas.
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello Bill,
This is one of the biggest tragedies of the 'US First' mentality. We break off relations with other nations, then when something big comes along which requires cooperation, we don't have good working relationships with them. We have a leader who doesn't understand how a good relationship works, nor why you might want or need one. He is a completely dysfunctional communicator. Everything is a competition with him. No matter what is going on, he figures there is a winner and a loser. And he always wants to be the winner. The only problem is: his premise is wrong. He has no concept of win/win philosophy. He thinks that's a joke, thinks everybody should be as diabolical as he is. If they are not, then he will take advantage of that. Totally unprepared for ever NEEDING anything, such as cooperation with other nations for mutual benefit.
Relationships which have taken years to build are being destroyed. And the damage will last long after he is gone. Those kinds of things cannot be quickly put back together again. DT has been a tragedy for the State Department.
This hurts our economy in the long run. When nations lose confidence in the USA, they become reluctant to do business with us. If they don't think they can rely on us, they are more likely to look elsewhere. This is eroding our long-term power in the world, eroding our super-power status.
Is this helping the USA in the long run or our adversaries??
(CNN)The United States has scaled back its role on the world stage, taken actions that are undermining efforts to battle the coronavirus pandemic and left the international community without a traditional global leader, according to experts, diplomats and analysts.
The US -- usually at the head of the table helping to coordinate in global crises -- has declined to take a seat at virtual international meetings convened by the World Health Organization and the European Union to coordinate work on potentially lifesaving vaccines.
Former world leaders warn that the Trump administration risks alienating allies by politicizing the deadly pandemic with its push to punish China and have other nations choose sides.
The administration's decision to halt funding for the WHO, the world body best positioned to coordinate the global response to the raging pandemic, has appalled global health officials.
On Friday the US blocked a vote on a UN Security Council resolution that called for a global ceasefire aimed at collectively assisting a planet devastated by the outbreak. The US did not want any reference to the WHO in the text and rejected a compromise version that didn't directly mention the organization -- and instead cited the UN's "specialized health agencies," according to two diplomats familiar with the process.
The US has similarly blocked expressions of global unity at G7 and G20 meetings due to anger about China and the WHO.
Incredulity and sadness
US officials push back, touting both funding to fight Covid-19 as well as work Trump is doing through the Group of Seven and bilaterally -- leading more than 50 calls with world leaders. But experts say funding without full global coordination can slow overall progress.
And where US presidents have in the past offered a steadying voice, observers from the Asia Pacific to Europe expressed incredulity, amusement and sadness at President Donald Trump's briefings on the virus, saying they are deeply damaging to the US image abroad.
At a time when nearly 4 million people worldwide have been infected with the virus, diplomats say many countries are yearning for the firm US leadership they've seen at historic moments and in prior epidemics, citing President Barack Obama's response to Ebola and President George W. Bush's work on HIV/AIDS.
"They want the US to lean in more," said one European diplomat. "We know they're doing a great deal with countries, including developing countries, bilaterally ... but a lot of countries hanker after the decisive US effort that we saw when the Berlin Wall came down. A lot of countries believe this is one of those pivotal moments in history and the US has always led at those times."
Critics say the Trump administration's approach to the coronavirus hasn't just hampered the fight against the pandemic, it has increased uncertainty, eroded respect for the US and deepened concern that the international system no longer functions effectively.
"The world is looking for global leadership. It's a global problem -- it affects literally everyone on the planet. This is a time when you expect the leaders of superpowers in a very constructive way to help coordinate and structure the response," said Robert Yates, director of the Global Health Program at Chatham House, a British think tank. "One would expect the US to have a leading role in trying to coordinate global efforts. That's been completely lacking."
Global health officials found Trump's move to cut funding for the WHO in the middle of a pandemic "absolutely breathtaking," Yates added. "It's worse than a lack of coordination, it almost seems destructive."
A senior State Department official told reporters Tuesday that the President "has concerns" about the WHO, which Trump has accused of being biased in China's favor. The official repeatedly stressed that the US "is the single largest health and humanitarian donor in the world" and said the US "and President Trump are leading the global effort to combat this pandemic," in part through the US presidency of the G7.
But the machinery of a US-led international response isn't kicking into gear this time, said Gayle Smith, president and CEO of the nonprofit ONE Campaign.
By and large, she noted, "we've not seen the kind of summitry, urgency of meetings at the UN Security Council, heads of state coming together to organize, to figure out how we manage, for example, global supply chains."
Skipped meetings
"Everybody in the world is looking for the same goods. How do we make sure that the global economy stays where it needs to be?" asked Smith, a former administrator of the US Agency for International Development. And while she notes the G7 and G20 have held virtual meetings, "I would very much like to see the United States taking the kind of extra effort to mobilize the world at multiple levels."
US officials say Trump has convened regular virtual meetings with G7 ministers to coordinate assistance to other countries, but the White House has skipped international meetings to coordinate on the hunt for a vaccine, leaving experts disconcerted. One meeting was organized by WHO, while another meeting Monday of more than 40 countries and several organizations raised $8 billion in pledges and yielded a commitment that whoever produces an effective vaccine first will share it with the rest of the world.
The US absence was "really, really unfortunate" said Smith, not just "because the US has historically been a leader," but because the US has a national interest in being part of the group "that is trying to accelerate the development of vaccines and therapeutics, because obviously we're going to need a vaccine here. ... I think it would be wise, and in our interest, to be involved on the ground floor."
Stephen Morrison, director of the Global Health Policy Center at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, said, "It's a very crazy and disturbing thing that [the US] would be going its own way and sitting this out. It's the country with the greatest financing capacity, biggest foundational interest, greatest R&D capacity."
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This is one of the biggest tragedies of the 'US First' mentality. We break off relations with other nations, then when something big comes along which requires cooperation, we don't have good working relationships with them. We have a leader who doesn't understand how a good relationship works, nor why you might want or need one. He is a completely dysfunctional communicator. Everything is a competition with him. No matter what is going on, he figures there is a winner and a loser. And he always wants to be the winner. The only problem is: his premise is wrong. He has no concept of win/win philosophy. He thinks that's a joke, thinks everybody should be as diabolical as he is. If they are not, then he will take advantage of that. Totally unprepared for ever NEEDING anything, such as cooperation with other nations for mutual benefit.
Relationships which have taken years to build are being destroyed. And the damage will last long after he is gone. Those kinds of things cannot be quickly put back together again. DT has been a tragedy for the State Department.
This hurts our economy in the long run. When nations lose confidence in the USA, they become reluctant to do business with us. If they don't think they can rely on us, they are more likely to look elsewhere. This is eroding our long-term power in the world, eroding our super-power status.
Prob true.. He prob believes he has them where he wants them, why not crush them as he has done everyone else he could..
Your Op, like most leftwing news, is just opinion and speculation, Bill.
The only facts are that they hate Donald Trump and wouldn't listen to him anyway.
And of course, China's amazing GDP growth was discussed back then. But don't worry about it.
lol, I am not..
You bring something to the table & we'll talk and thanks for "your opinion"............