All bow to the leader - Rush Linbaugh....

[evince]

You do know those guys vote on what they'll be getting, right?

And saying, "If the programs are socialist then I hope they'll fail." is not the same thing as saying I hope he fails at every endeavor he ever participates in.

Except they are outright saying they want him to fail.

Do you remember all the accusations against the leftys here that we wanted the war to fail because we siad it was doomed policy?

We had to clairify it every minute or two.

 

[Onceler]

He hasn't looked very Presidential to me..he's a whiner, a bully and teleprompter junkie..

Just based on most of your posts, I'd have to classify you as being a little biased as far as that goes.

Just a little.

Trust me - he's a great President so far.

 

[Damocles]

Except they are outright saying they want him to fail.

Do you remember all the accusations against the leftys here that we wanted the war to fail because we siad it was doomed policy?

We had to clairify it every minute or two.

Yeah, and two wrongs make a right.

I get tired of the "They do it too!" argument that supposedly absolves people.

I'll tell you what I tell my own children: "They do it too!" is a confession, not an excuse.

 

[Onceler]

You do know those guys vote on what they'll be getting, right?

And saying, "If the programs are socialist then I hope they'll fail." is not the same thing as saying I hope he fails at every endeavor he ever participates in.

How can you defend the wish to fail like that?

Let's just say that the premise that "the programs are socialist" is valid, which it isn't. We can start another thread on that. If they are....it's better for them to fail so that your ideology can be proven "correct", than to see them succeed, which would mean a rebound for the economy, and millions of people back to work, and not losing their homes?

You're warped if you think that.

 

[meme]

Just based on most of your posts, I'd have to classify you as being a little biased as far as that goes.

Just a little.

Trust me - he's a great President so far.

Of course I'm biased..and you're not?
and I'll make my own judement about whether he is great or not..so far, I say, NOT.

 

[Damocles]

How can you defend the wish to fail like that?

Let's just say that the premise that "the programs are socialist" is valid, which it isn't. We can start another thread on that. If they are....it's better for them to fail so that your ideology can be proven "correct", than to see them succeed, which would mean a rebound for the economy, and millions of people back to work, and not losing their homes?

You're warped if you think that.

Pointing out what was actually said isn't a defense, it is simply what he said.

If you need to take it out of context to twist it into what you want it to say, then it isn't me that is defending something.

What he said was, "If the programs are socialist then I hope they fail."

What the left says he said, "I hope he fails."

It's again another time where people who got upset over one person taking something their "side" said out of context doing exactly the same thing to somebody on the other side then defending it.

If I get to hear the childish "They do it too." crap again I'll have to laugh.

 

[Onceler]

Pointing out what was actually said isn't a defense, it is simply what he said.

If you need to take it out of context to twist it into what you want it to say, then it isn't me that is defending something.

What he said was, "If the programs are socialist then I hope they fail."

What the left says he said, "I hope he fails."

You're pretty chicken that way. You always issue these kind of "non-defense defenses"....

 

[Cancel7]

Pointing out what was actually said isn't a defense, it is simply what he said.

If you need to take it out of context to twist it into what you want it to say, then it isn't me that is defending something.

What he said was, "If the programs are socialist then I hope they fail."

What the left says he said, "I hope he fails."

Well he's been saying it repeatedly now, and so have others, and they have not made that stipulation. Though I agree with Onceler about that, it's not relevant. But even so...it hasn't even been present.

 

[Cancel 2016.2]

"White House spokesman Robert Gibbs added his voice yesterday, saying reporters should ask Republicans "whether they agree with what Rush Limbaugh said . . . in wishing and hoping for economic failure in this country."

Ha ha, I didn't know that Gibbs had gotten into the act, thanks! This is great stuff. After watching R's mindfuck Democrats for 8 years during which Dems did whatever they were told to do, it's great to have some new liberal blood in DC who knows how to make those R's dance!

I actually think it is good from a strategic point of view. Rush is an idiot and with the exception of the far right, most people know it. If the Reps don't counter this, the paint will dry and in the publics eye he will be a 'leader'. The attention will also boost his ego, which will in turn make him even louder and more obnoxious.

 

[Damocles]

You're pretty chicken that way. You always issue these kind of "non-defense defenses"....

Except it isn't a defense. It literally says what he said.

 

[Jarod]

Except they are outright saying they want him to fail.

Do you remember all the accusations against the leftys here that we wanted the war to fail because we siad it was doomed policy?

We had to clairify it every minute or two.

Still, that should be allowed. We as a nation are plenty strong enough to have people attack us like that. Plus, even though I disagree with Rush most of the time, id vote to get his program, I really like to listen to the program.

 

[evince]

Yeah, and two wrongs make a right.

I get tired of the "They do it too!" argument that supposedly absolves people.

I'll tell you what I tell my own children: "They do it too!" is a confession, not an excuse.

Damo the differance is they are quoted as saying they WANT him to fail.

 

[Cancel7]

I actually think it is good from a strategic point of view. Rush is an idiot and with the exception of the far right, most people know it. If the Reps don't counter this, the paint will dry and in the publics eye he will be a 'leader'. The attention will also boost his ego, which will in turn make him even louder and more obnoxious.

Yeah it is good strategy, and it's been a long time since a Democrat had a good strategy.

 

[Damocles]

Damo the differance is they are quoted as saying they WANT him to fail.

They are misquoted. Again, Rush said, "If the programs are socialist then I hope they'll fail."

What you say he said, "I hope Obama fails."

The two are not identical.

It's like somebody saying the left wanted Bush to fail, regardless of what would happen to the nation, in Iraq. Pointing out what you think is wrong, understanding that even if it is wrong it stands a chance of 'working' but being detrimental at the same time, then hoping that doesn't happen is not the same thing as you pretend it is here.

Your argument is exactly, "They do it too!"

 

[evince]

Still, that should be allowed. We as a nation are plenty strong enough to have people attack us like that. Plus, even though I disagree with Rush most of the time, id vote to get his program, I really like to listen to the program.

Oh I dont care if hes heard.

That is fine with me.

I jsut want the truth to be told.

They are outrright hoping Obama fails.

we were saying the Bush ideas would fail.

there is a big differance.

 

[Jarod]

Oh I dont care if hes heard.

That is fine with me.

I jsut want the truth to be told.

They are outrright hoping Obama fails.

we were saying the Bush ideas would fail.

there is a big differance.

Agreed, but regardless of what they say, most people are smart enough to see that!

 

[Jarod]

They are misquoted. Again, Rush said, "If the programs are socialist then I hope they'll fail."

What you say he said, "I hope Obama fails."

The two are not identical.

It's like somebody saying the left wanted Bush to fail, regardless of what would happen to the nation, in Iraq. Pointing out what you think is wrong, understanding that even if it is wrong it stands a chance of 'working' but being detrimental at the same time, then hoping that doesn't happen is not the same thing as you pretend it is.

Your argument is exactly, "They do it too!"

Even if the plans were "socialist" if they "succeded" would that not be a great thing, regardless of what you call the plans?

 

[Canceled2]

Except they are outright saying they want him to fail.

Do you remember all the accusations against the leftys here that we wanted the war to fail because we siad it was doomed policy?

We had to clairify it every minute or two.

Where has Rush said that he personally wants Obama to fail? He made it very clear that Obama's failure on policy is what he meant. That you attempt to claim otherwise is dishonest. I don't want Obama's socialsit policies to succeed. To be a conservative means being anti socialism. Rush is spot on! Steele does not want Obama's socialistic agenda to succeed, he's spot on too!

 

[meme]

Yeah it's a great strategy..the American people see their President and his shrill mouthpieces attacking a "PRIVATE CITIZEN" for voicing his opinions, will show them just what the Democrat party is made of...

Keep up that stagedy, we all like it..

 

[Damocles]

Even if the plans were "socialist" if they "succeded" would that not be a great thing, regardless of what you call the plans?

You didn't read.

One can recognize that something that is bad policy can "work" and still be detrimental over the longer haul and hope that it won't happen.

It could "work" to have a dictator take over in the US, that doesn't mean I hope that it would ever happen, nor would I expect you to hope for that even if you believed it would "work" to get done what you want done.