AFRICAN IMMIGRANTS HAVE THE HIGHEST ACADEMIC ACHIEVEMENT IN THE US

part of this is due to affirmative action, where having dopey grades can still get you into ivy league schools.

i bet universities are tripping all over themselves to get diverse africans regardless of their gpa. Lets see GPA stats and not just degree stats.

That makes no sense on all kinds of levels. Who told you that Africans are only educated in American schools .. and how are they so successful in advanced degrees unless they have been as properly educated as anyone white would be?

Talk about dopey grades .. shouldn't you be smarter than this .. have a better counter argument than this?

I recognize the fading myth of white-maleness is a hard pill for someone like you to swallow .. but whether you swallow or not, it won't matter on twit.
 
I remember first hearing Sade in the 80's. WOW! Always loved her music and voice style. But, then I've always been a jazz fan. Not some of the fake "smooth jazz" stuff that came around that people called jazz just because there was a sax in it. I mean old bebop hard core real deal jazz...Coltrane, Bird, Dizzie, Getz, Monk, Miles (got to see him live in Miami), etc.

I saw Miles once many years ago.

I like all kinds of jazz styles and influences, and I love the wonder of great voices. Sade certainly has one of the best.
 
I remember first hearing Sade in the 80's. WOW! Always loved her music and voice style. But, then I've always been a jazz fan. Not some of the fake "smooth jazz" stuff that came around that people called jazz just because there was a sax in it. I mean old bebop hard core real deal jazz...Coltrane, Bird, Dizzie, Getz, Monk, Miles (got to see him live in Miami), etc.


Jazz and churros in Miami....hmmmmmm
 
How loving is that.

"If you don't do what I want, I'll disown you"

:good4u:
Of course not. If he took a path in life where the gubmint were to take care of him for a while that would be his decision. Plus he could go to college on the GI bill.
I know my kid and having done contract work with the Air Force and the Army I was sure it (especially the army) wasn't for him. It would've been negligent of me not telling him what I knew based on my experience.
 
Thank-you for putting this out there. Nice informative articles. African Africans are a world apart in work ethic, discipline, personality, attitude and priorities from an awful lot of African Americans. I personally have seen some of them be mercilessly. mocked, picked on, harassed and bullied by their American counterparts.

Thanks

Africans from all over the world live and work within black communities, supported by black communities and African-American people. They are not supported by people on your side of the aisle who only see them as immigrants and a problem.

African-Americans are far more open, kind, and welcoming to blacks from all over the world than were the Irish who immigrated here, who were attacked by white nativists.

The goal is one community, one people, all people. We'll leave the search for division to the other side.
 
Here is a headline you won't see on Fox news or a national news station..

Africans have the highest educational attainment rates of any immigrant group in the United States with higher levels of completion than the stereotyped Asian American model minority. It is not only the first generation that does well, as estimates indicate that a highly disproportionate percentage of black students at elite universities are African or the children of African immigrants.

In an analysis of Census Bureau data by the Journal of Blacks in higher education, African immigrants to the United States were found more likely to be college educated than any other immigrant group. African immigrants to the U.S. are also more highly educated than any other native-born ethnic group including white Americans. Some 48.9 percent of all African immigrants hold a college diploma. This is slightly more than the percentage of Asian immigrants to the U.S., nearly double the rate of native-born white Americans, and nearly four times the rate of native-born African Americans.

In 1997, 19.4 percent of all adult African immigrants in the United States held a graduate degree, compared to 8.1 percent of adult whites and 3.8 percent of adult blacks in the United States, respectively. This information suggests that America has an equally large achievement gap between whites and African/Asian immigrants as it does between white and black Americans.

Of the African-born population in the United States age 25 and older, 86.4% reported having a high school degree or higher, compared with 78. 9% of Asian born immigrants and 76.5% of European born immigrants, respectively. These figures contrast with 61.8% percent of the total foreign-born population.
http://www.atlnightspots.com/african-immigrants-have-the-highest-academic-achievement-in-the-us/

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Data show Nigerians the most educated in the U.S.

BACHELOR'S AND BEYOND
In America, Nigerians' education pursuit is above rest
Whether driven by immigration or family, data show more earn degrees

For Woodlands resident David Olowokere, one of Nigeria's sons, having a master's degree in engineering just wasn't enough for his people back home. So he got a doctorate.

His wife, Shalewa Olowokere, a civil engineer, didn't stop at a bachelor's, either. She went for her master's.

The same obsession with education runs in the Udeh household in Sugar Land. Foluke Udeh and her husband, Nduka, both have master's degrees. Anything less, she reckons, would have amounted to failure.

Report ranks software developer as the best job in the U.S. this year
The best job in 2018 is that of a software developer, according to the annual ranking, which uses data from the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics to identify jobs with the greatest hiring demand and the best work/life balance, salary and future prospects, among other factors.

The best job in 2018 is that of a software developer, according to the annual ranking, which uses data from the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics to identify jobs with the greatest hiring demand and the best work/life balance, salary and future prospects, among other factors.

Media: Chicago Tribune
"If you see an average Nigerian family, everybody has a college degree these days," said Udeh, 32, a physical therapist at Memorial Hermann-Texas Medical Center. "But a post-graduate degree, that's like pride for the family."

Nigerian immigrants have the highest levels of education in this city and the nation, surpassing whites and Asians, according to Census data bolstered by an analysis of 13 annual Houston-area surveys conducted by Rice University.

Although they make up a tiny portion of the U.S. population, a whopping 17 percent of all Nigerians in this country held master's degrees while 4 percent had a doctorate, according to the 2006 American Community Survey conducted by the U.S. Census Bureau. In addition, 37 percent had bachelor's degrees.
http://www.chron.com/news/article/Data-show-Nigerians-the-most-educated-in-the-U-S-1600808.php
You're so full of shit lol.

Pack up your racism and peddle it someplace else.
 
You're so full of shit lol.

Pack up your racism and peddle it someplace else.

I bet you have never set foot inside a college classroom, eh?

My view is that tying skin color to educational achievement is a false premise. There is nothing about the proportion of melanin in one's skin that determines educational aptitude.

And therefore, there really is no such thing as "black" educational achievement, or "white" educational achievement. These are not monolithic groups defined by melanin levels in the skin. If you segregated out rightwing, socially conservative, and largely southern whites out of the universe of "white" people, I suspect their collegiate educational achievement looks pretty mediocre. It all comes down to economic demographics, doesn't it? Poor whites have a smaller likelihood of collegiate achievement that middle class or affluent whites. If you add religious conservatism and an affinity for racism into the mix, poor whites are probably much less likely to have educational achievement.

In almost every white collar, professional job I have had my colleagues and peers came from families that were college educated, middle class, or affluent. I think I can count on one hand the number of white people at my current position that came from non-college educated, working class or poor families. The economic demographics really seem to make a huge difference in access and opportunity for a college education, completely independent of skin color.
 
part of this is due to affirmative action, where having dopey grades can still get you into ivy league schools.

i bet universities are tripping all over themselves to get diverse africans regardless of their gpa. Lets see GPA stats and not just degree stats.

Hmmm. GPA after graduation does not man shit in a job interview for one. Secondly, GPA has no bearing in the real world. All it mean is either you really understood what you were taking or you were really good at cheating.
 
Africa Is Sending Us Its Best and Brightest

One of the most striking facts about immigration to the U.S., unbeknownst even to many immigration advocates, is the superior education of Africans coming to this country. If we consider adults age 25 or older, born in Africa and living in the U.S., 41.7 of them have a bachelor’s degree or more, according to 2009 data. For contrast, the native-born population has a bachelor’s degree or more at the much lower rate of only 28.1 percent in these estimates, and foreign-born adults as a whole have a college degree at the rate of 26.8 percent, both well below the African rate.

How about high school degrees? About one-third of immigrants overall lack this credential, but only 11.7 percent of African-born migrants don’t have a high school degree. That’s remarkably close to the rate for native-born Americans, estimated at 11.4 percent.

Or consider Nigerian-Americans, Nigeria being the most populous nation in Africa. Their education levels are among the very highest in the U.S., above those of Asians, with 17 percent of Nigerian migrants having a master’s degree.

In addition, about three-quarters of African migrants speak English, and they have higher than average rates of labor force participation. They are also much less likely to commit violent crimes than individuals born in the U.S.

“They’re not sending us their best people” is a claim I hear from Trump in his speeches and news conferences. Yet that’s the opposite of the truth when it comes to Africa.

OK, so how about Norwegians? During America’s earlier age of mass migration, starting in the late 19th century, this country received many Norwegians. They were especially likely to come from low-skilled backgrounds, they had problems assimilating, and about 70 percent of them ended up returning to their home country. If we compare the sixteen immigrant groups from that time for which we have data, it is the Norwegians and Portuguese who did the worst in terms of wage gaps.

To be clear, I think this experiment with Norwegian migration has more than worked out all right, as Norwegian-Americans now have above average levels of income and have assimilated extremely well. But this is a cautionary tale, indicating that the groups you might think would succeed right away often face big struggles. Ole Edvart Rølvaag’s “Giants in the Earth,” the famous 1920s novel of Norwegian migration to the Dakotas in the 1870s, shows the enterprise was highly fraught and assimilation was a major issue. It is noteworthy that the novel was originally published in Norwegian, whereas the major Nigerian and Nigerian-American novels of today are typically written and first published in English.

Economist Edward Lazear suggests a simple experiment. Consider immigrants to the U.S. from Algeria, Israel and Japan, and rank them in order of most educated to least educated. The correct answer is Algeria, Israel then Japan. Although that’s counterintuitive at first glance, it’s easy enough to see how it works. If you are Algerian and educated, or aspire to be educated, your prospects in Algeria are relatively poor and you may seek to leave. A talented, educated person in Japan or Israel can do just fine by staying at home. These kinds of considerations explain about 73 percent of the variation in the educational outcomes of migrants.

In other words, Trump is not only being offensive, he is also quite wrong.
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-01-12/africa-is-sending-us-its-best-and-brightest
 
I saw Miles once many years ago.

I like all kinds of jazz styles and influences, and I love the wonder of great voices. Sade certainly has one of the best.

I'm pretty sure for me it was around 1981 or '82. He brought the house down when he went into Bitches Brew...sheer genius!
As far as the ladies of jazz go, I'm sorry but Ella Fitzgerald is still the reigning queen...man can she scat!!! :cool:
 
Thanks

Africans from all over the world live and work within black communities, supported by black communities and African-American people. They are not supported by people on your side of the aisle who only see them as immigrants and a problem.
I think that a merit based approach will cure a lot of ills and misconceptions regarding every potential immigrant from every country. I sure hope it does anyway.
 
Africa Is Sending Us Its Best and Brightest

One of the most striking facts about immigration to the U.S., unbeknownst even to many immigration advocates, is the superior education of Africans coming to this country. If we consider adults age 25 or older, born in Africa and living in the U.S., 41.7 of them have a bachelor’s degree or more, according to 2009 data. For contrast, the native-born population has a bachelor’s degree or more at the much lower rate of only 28.1 percent in these estimates, and foreign-born adults as a whole have a college degree at the rate of 26.8 percent, both well below the African rate.

How about high school degrees? About one-third of immigrants overall lack this credential, but only 11.7 percent of African-born migrants don’t have a high school degree. That’s remarkably close to the rate for native-born Americans, estimated at 11.4 percent.

Or consider Nigerian-Americans, Nigeria being the most populous nation in Africa. Their education levels are among the very highest in the U.S., above those of Asians, with 17 percent of Nigerian migrants having a master’s degree.

In addition, about three-quarters of African migrants speak English, and they have higher than average rates of labor force participation. They are also much less likely to commit violent crimes than individuals born in the U.S.

“They’re not sending us their best people” is a claim I hear from Trump in his speeches and news conferences. Yet that’s the opposite of the truth when it comes to Africa.

OK, so how about Norwegians? During America’s earlier age of mass migration, starting in the late 19th century, this country received many Norwegians. They were especially likely to come from low-skilled backgrounds, they had problems assimilating, and about 70 percent of them ended up returning to their home country. If we compare the sixteen immigrant groups from that time for which we have data, it is the Norwegians and Portuguese who did the worst in terms of wage gaps.

To be clear, I think this experiment with Norwegian migration has more than worked out all right, as Norwegian-Americans now have above average levels of income and have assimilated extremely well. But this is a cautionary tale, indicating that the groups you might think would succeed right away often face big struggles. Ole Edvart Rølvaag’s “Giants in the Earth,” the famous 1920s novel of Norwegian migration to the Dakotas in the 1870s, shows the enterprise was highly fraught and assimilation was a major issue. It is noteworthy that the novel was originally published in Norwegian, whereas the major Nigerian and Nigerian-American novels of today are typically written and first published in English.

Economist Edward Lazear suggests a simple experiment. Consider immigrants to the U.S. from Algeria, Israel and Japan, and rank them in order of most educated to least educated. The correct answer is Algeria, Israel then Japan. Although that’s counterintuitive at first glance, it’s easy enough to see how it works. If you are Algerian and educated, or aspire to be educated, your prospects in Algeria are relatively poor and you may seek to leave. A talented, educated person in Japan or Israel can do just fine by staying at home. These kinds of considerations explain about 73 percent of the variation in the educational outcomes of migrants.

In other words, Trump is not only being offensive, he is also quite wrong.
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-01-12/africa-is-sending-us-its-best-and-brightest

I can always learn something from you, and that is what makes you a valuable contributor to this forum.
You can always count on the barely educated rightwing contingent on jpp.com for insults, sexism, and unabated racism. But you know what you cannot count on them for? Knowledge, insight, and truth.

Apparently, Trump and his fan boys are doing a lot of lying about Africans. Who'd thunk?
 
I can always learn something from you, and that is what makes you a valuable contributor to this forum.
You can always count on the barely educated rightwing contingent on jpp.com for insults, sexism, and unabated racism. But you know what you cannot count on them for? Knowledge, insight, and truth.

Apparently, Trump and his fan boys are doing a lot of lying about Africans. Who'd thunk?
Yes you can learn that 9/11 was an inside job, and the collapse of WT7 couldn't obey the laws of physics!!

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I'm pretty sure for me it was around 1981 or '82. He brought the house down when he went into Bitches Brew...sheer genius!
As far as the ladies of jazz go, I'm sorry but Ella Fitzgerald is still the reigning queen...man can she scat!!! :cool:

It was during 'Bitches Brew' when I saw him. I've attended many memorable concerts in my life, that was one of them. It seemed as if he played for about 3 hours.

Ella was a tad bit before I entered the world of Jazz, but I've listened to her and can't argue with you on that.

I got into jazz the day I heard this at about 16 years old ..

 
It was during 'Bitches Brew' when I saw him. I've attended many memorable concerts in my life, that was one of them. It seemed as if he played for about 3 hours.

Ella was a tad bit before I entered the world of Jazz, but I've listened to her and can't argue with you on that.

I got into jazz the day I heard this at about 16 years old ..


Right? How could it not? I mean...Montgomery and a guitar with a Latin beat? Quite a trifecta.
 
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