Afghanistan will revert to being a terrorist haven after withdrawal, US report warns

[Truth Detector]

Dearest Idiot, we can't win no matter how many more live or treasure we waste there. You truly are a chicken hawk idiot.

LMAO; good thing you weren't around during the Revolution or the Civil War eh dunce?

You’re dismissed you pathetic ignorant fat tub of lard.

 

[Truth Detector]

It really is remarkable how brave all these armchair generals are... they see absolutely nothing wrong with send wave after wave of cannon fodder into the fray - as long as THEIR chickenshit asses aren't part of the fodder.

LMAO @ armchair generals. Yeah, you were a real warrior weren’t you shit-for-brains?

You’re just full of strawmen aren’t you dumbass?

 

[maineman]

as I said before, it is always interesting to witness armchair generals who are unwilling to risk their OWN lives for their country, but are perfectly happy to prolong a no-win conflict for the sake of "their" honor, and if that costs boatloads more American lives, they don't really care all that much because it is not their life that is being put in harm's way. Chickenhawks.

 

[maineman]

LMAO @ armchair generals. Yeah, you were a real warrior weren’t you shit-for-brains?

You’re just full of strawmen aren’t you dumbass?

what do you know of my military career?

nothing.

YOU, on the other hand, have not served, if I am correct.... so you ARE an armchair general... a fucking worthless chicken hawk.... we would eat your kind alive at MY Legion Hall, if any member was stupid enough to bring one in with him.

 

[maineman]

and did you try to enlist but failed the ASVAB? Or did you just avoid it all together?

 

[Freddy Figbottom]

Wrong; it belies the reality. Of course if you think running with our tail between our legs and leaving the population at the mercy of brutal terrorists like the Taliban is good policy, you have the same low intelligence of our Commander and Dunce Obama.

Perhaps your statements belies an overly stupid view?



And just maybe, the population wants us to stay until their fledgling Government can stand on its own? Do you have any documented evidence that the majority of the population sympathizes and wants the brutality of another Taliban regime? Or are you talking out of your butt again?

And just maybe you’re being a dunce who just wants to argue for the sake of argument?



Gee; did you ever consider that you might be parroting terrorist talking points?

Try to engage your brain for a moment; what would be better for the people of Afghanistan; (1) a civil war with the brutal Taliban taking power and implementing their special brand of brutal dictatorship; or (2) continue developing a Democracy where the people get to choose who leads them?



What I know is true is that you are a reprehensible dunce who thinks he has all the answers yet asks questions so he can be an insulting dimwit. This is why most of the time I choose to ignore you. I thought this time you were being genuine; silly me.

Afghanistan Now: ‘The People Do Not Want to Go Back’

Come from the Shadows: The Long and Lonely Struggle for Peace in Afghanistan
Terry Glavin (Vancouver: Douglas & McIntyre, 2011)

……..
Glavin, a cofounder of the Canada-Afghanistan Solidarity Committee and a veteran of the Canadian left, addresses most of his arguments to his compatriots, particularly those in Canada’s antiwar movement who have come to view the intervention as a colonial enterprise and the Taliban as a sort of national liberation force. Glavin’s central thesis is that these liberal clichés—not to mention the despairing discourse of the right—have a profound impact on a country slowly reemerging from the darkness. As the troops-out-now camp becomes ever more vociferous in Washington, Brussels, and Toronto, Glavin contends, Afghans grow disheartened in the face of the very real challenges they face, jeopardizing the country’s hard-fought progress. To make this case, Glavin marshals the voices of dozens of Afghan democrats, foreign NGO activists, and even Canadian troops, all of whom suggest, in so many words, that both the antiwar left and the new isolationist right are dangerously mistaken. “People who say the foreign soldiers should go away, they do not know what they are saying,” Mahboob Shah tells Glavin. “Yes, it should be Afghans who decide, but we decided that the world should come to us, as a brother.”

For Glavin, it is precisely the spirit of brotherhood and solidarity that should animate the West’s engagement with Afghanistan. His is an appeal based on the recognition that, after the attacks of September 11th, the fate of the West and that of the Afghan people have become inextricably intertwined. To immediately abandon Afghanistan, as a growing bipartisan consensus now urges, would be to traumatically sever these links and to abdicate a responsibility the West promised to shoulder. Afghanistan has made significant gains in the face of enormous challenges and, as MP Sabrina Saqib tells Glavin, “the people do not want to go back.” At the very least, the decision to rush out of Afghanistan should be based on a more sympathetic and holistic accounting of both the country’s post-intervention development and the human costs of withdrawal. In our haste to get out, are we willing to let the Afghans go back?

If that cruel debate night in Tampa is any indication, the answer is, likely, yes. When the CNN camera briefly cut to questioner Hekmati’s face reacting to Huntsman and Perry’s remarks, her pain showed. In the months and years ahead, many more Afghans, both inside the country and across the diaspora, will be listening to our conversations about their homeland, seeking cues about the seriousness of our commitments. Perhaps we should listen more closely to theirs.

Sohrab Ahmari is an Iranian-American journalist and coeditor of Arab Spring Dreams, a forthcoming anthology of essays by young Mideast reformers.

http://www.worldaffairsjournal.org/article/afghanistan-now-‘-people-do-not-want-go-back’

In 2010, 47% of respondents say that the country is moving in the right direction.
This figure has been increasing since 2008 (38%) and 2009 (42%).The main reason cited for optimism continues to be the perception of good security,mentioned by 38% of respondents who say the country is moving in the right direction. This number has decreased from 44% in 2009. A little more than a third of respondents in 2010 also cite construction and rebuilding (35%), and opening of schools for girls (15%) remains the third reason for optimism in 2010, although this has decreased from 21% in 2009.

Eighty-one percent of respondents say they agree with the democratic principle of equal rights for all groups to participation and representation. This figure has remained stable since 2009, but does not reverse the declining trend which has been evident since 2007 (from 90% in 2006 and 2007 to 84% in 2008, 80% in 2009 and 81% in 2010). However, levels of support for allowing peaceful opposition rose significantly in 2010 to 83% after falling consistently from 84% in 2006 to 81% in 2007, 78 in 2008 and 77% in 2009.

In terms of local amenities and services, respondents continue to report the greatest satisfaction with the availability of education for children (68%), water for drinking (63%) and the ability to move safely in local areas (63%). Just under half of respondents are satisfied with services related to water for irrigation (49%) and clinics and hospitals (46%). Respondents are least satisfied with the availability of jobs and electricity. Seventy two percent say the availability of jobs in their local area is bad and 66% say the same about the supply of electricity.

Satisfaction with the performance of the national government has risen steadily over the last three years (from 67% in 2008 to 71% in 2009 and 73% in 2010). The 2010 survey records the highest levels of positive assessments of national government performance since 2007 in almost all regions. Satisfaction with the performance of central government in policy and service delivery is consistently highest in the East, North West, and Central/Kabul regions. The most commonly mentioned achievements of the current government are a better education system (27%), reconstruction (24%) and establishing peace and security (24%). The most commonly mentioned government failings are administrative corruption (37%), insecurity (30%), lack of job opportunities (17%) and weak government (10%).

http://asiafoundation.org/publications/pdf/797

And maybe monkeys might fly out of my butt!

 

[NOVA]

if present wisdom indicates that the "objective" is practically unattainable, it would make sense to limit the sacrificing, don't you think? The first thing folks should do when they figure out they are in a hole is to stop digging.

"The first thing folks should do when they figure out they are in a hole is to stop digging.'


Wow....why don't you type that up and send it in to His holiness Obama with CC's to
the rest of the Democrat JackAss Party ....

 

[NOVA]

as I said before, it is always interesting to witness armchair generals who are unwilling to risk their OWN lives for their country, but are perfectly happy to prolong a no-win conflict for the sake of "their" honor, and if that costs boatloads more American lives, they don't really care all that much because it is not their life that is being put in harm's way. Chickenhawks.

First you demean Obama as I pointed out in post 158 and now you use code words to ridicule LBJ.....you're so transparent, did you think we wouldn't
make the connection....58,000 KIA

 

[maineman]

First you demean Obama as I pointed out in post 158 and now you use code words to ridicule LBJ.....you're so transparent, did you think we wouldn't
make the connection....58,000 KIA

Obama inherited a bucket of shit... LBJ filled a bucket with shit.

big difference.

 

[maineman]

"The first thing folks should do when they figure out they are in a hole is to stop digging.'


Wow....why don't you type that up and send it in to His holiness Obama with CC's to
the rest of the Democrat JackAss Party ....

let's remember to stop back here late in the evening on Election night 2016 and compare notes, OK? We'll see who should have stopped digging when we see who the NEXT inhabitant of the White House will be.

 

[Truth Detector]

as I said before, it is always interesting to witness armchair generals who are unwilling to risk their OWN lives for their country, but are perfectly happy to prolong a no-win conflict for the sake of "their" honor, and if that costs boatloads more American lives, they don't really care all that much because it is not their life that is being put in harm's way. Chickenhawks.

LMAO @ armchair generals. Yeah, you were a real warrior weren’t you shit-for-brains?

You’re just full of strawmen aren’t you dumbass?

 

[Truth Detector]

what do you know of my military career?

nothing.

YOU, on the other hand, have not served, if I am correct.... so you ARE an armchair general... a fucking worthless chicken hawk.... we would eat your kind alive at MY Legion Hall, if any member was stupid enough to bring one in with him.

LMAO; yeah, they have lots of legion halls in Mexico don't they shit-for-brains.

You're not much of a warrior and your notions about foreign policy suggest a clueless idiot who sits around his house all day getting fat and mindlessly spam internet forums with utter dishonest bullshit.

Take your chicken hawk rhetoric and shove it up your ass Commander; you're no more of a General than anyone else on the forum you pathetic clueless whiney buffoon.

Yes, I am pointing and laughing at your moronic prattle. Dunce.

 

[maineman]

as I said, you know next to nothing about my military career, but suffice it to say that I put myself in harm's way in service to my country an infinitely more often than you did.

But... it's classic behavior of armchair generals to denigrate those who really DID serve....

what a pussy!

 

[maineman]

LMAO; yeah, they have lots of legion halls in Mexico don't they shit-for-brains.

You're not much of a warrior and your notions about foreign policy suggest a clueless idiot who sits around his house all day getting fat and mindlessly spam internet forums with utter dishonest bullshit.

Take your chicken hawk rhetoric and shove it up your ass Commander; you're no more of a General than anyone else on the forum you pathetic clueless whiney buffoon.

Yes, I am pointing and laughing at your moronic prattle. Dunce.

not in Mexico, but they had quite a few in Maine. I belonged to one. And as someone who DID serve in harm's way, I am not, therefore, a chicken hawk. That moniker is reserved for assholes like you who want to send wave after wave of cannon fodder into the breach as long as YOU'RE not among them. Chickhawk asshole.

 

[maineman]

Everyone seems to disagree with your prediction about Hillary not running...

oh wait... I forgot... that wasn't a prediction... it was.... something else.

:lol:

 

[Truth Detector]

and did you try to enlist but failed the ASVAB? Or did you just avoid it all together?

Is there point here General clueless; or are you just trying to look like the typical idiot dunce that you are pretending you have even the slightest clue of what you are talking about ad burying us in strawman stupidity?

You're beyond mere stupid Comrade.

You leftist armchair warriors are all the same; clueless prattle filled with strawman claims and hindsight.

 

[Truth Detector]

Everyone seems to disagree with your prediction about Hillary not running...

oh wait... I forgot... that wasn't a prediction... it was.... something else.

:lol:

I'm not sure if you are just plain stupid; or borderline retarded. Keep typing; it will help me figure out which Comrade dumbass.

 

[maineman]

Is there point here General clueless; or are you just trying to look like the typical idiot dunce that you are pretending you have even the slightest clue of what you are talking about ad burying us in strawman stupidity?

You're beyond mere stupid Comrade.

You leftist armchair warriors are all the same; clueless prattle filled with strawman claims and hindsight.

how cute... a real life chickhawk armchair warrior having the cyber courage to call someone who actually did serve their country in harm's way an armchair warrior.

You really disgust me. I don't think I'd cross the street to piss on you if you were on fire.

 

[Truth Detector]

not in Mexico, but they had quite a few in Maine. I belonged to one. And as someone who DID serve in harm's way, I am not, therefore, a chicken hawk. That moniker is reserved for assholes like you who want to send wave after wave of cannon fodder into the breach as long as YOU'RE not among them. Chickhawk asshole.

But you're not in Maine are you Comrade dumbass; you're hiding in Mexico.

Once again you bombard us with your inane prattle about cannon fodder; what would a clueless dunce like you know about what it is like to serve in the battlefield? You're just an armchair leftist dunce who seldom if ever gets anything right but is an expert at uttering stupid claims and construction strawman arguments.

Now do run along dumbass; we don't need you to remove all doubt what a clueless dunce you are.

LMFAO @ "And as someone who DID serve in harm's way"; you're too fucking dumb for words Comrade dumbass.

 

[maineman]

I'm not sure...

you DID make a prediction and then claim, after the fact, that you had not made a prediction. It is par for the course for you... you blather so much shit, you don't even BOTHER to try and keep it straight, and when someone points out how fucked up you are, you simply respond by insulting them....

it's getting boring.... I gotta tell ya.