Abortion thought experiment

Stretch said:
Unbelievers are always concerned with flesh. Believers are concerned with souls.
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if you were only interested in the soul then leave judgement to your God who is the arbitrator of such matters, and let the matters of the flesh be an individual choice because God has given free will according to your Christian beliefs.
 
NOVA said:
Where did I claim that a child and a fertilized egg are of equal value ?
Where did I claim that I should would let the child burn and save the bottle of fertilaized eggs.?
Where did you get the idea I hesitated in any way....

What I did say is "Thats like asking a person "do you still beat your wife".....1) YES.....2) NO.....are the only answers accepted....

and you're stupid enough to fall for it...."

and you are.
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Is the woman who wants to have an abortion equal to a fertilaized egg?
 
Stretch said:
You really are that blind as to what I just said??? :palm:
It's tiring constantly repeating my own words because you don't understand them on the first go-round.
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You have this problem with many people, maybe you should re-examined how you state your opinions.
 
Covfefe said:
if you were only interested in the soul then leave judgement to your God who is the arbitrator of such matters, and let the matters of the flesh be an individual choice because God has given free will according to your Christian beliefs.
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This. Questions of the soul and anything related to religion have no place at all in the abortion debate.

If your religion informs your views on the topic, it's easy enough for you to act according to that. But for yourself, and not dictate to others based on that.
 
Thing1 said:
And how do you know what the soul's position on abortion is, or what happens to the "soul" of an aborted fetus?

There has been a fair amount of past life regression and NDE therapy that talks about that. Personally, I think it's unlikely that an abortion in the 1st trimester has any bearing on any soul out there.
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Please stop embarrassing yourself. Take it up with God. You've provoked these arguments month after month in here. I've explained the sanctity of life to you ad nauseum for a year.
If you REALLY had any interest in understanding the Word of God and his teaching on life you would have accepted (maybe not agreed with) all my answers I've already given you and moved on.
You actually don't want believers to answer you repetitive questions. You only desire to argue and stir up strife over and over and over and over.......
 
Stretch said:
Please stop embarrassing yourself. Take it up with God. You've provoked these arguments month after month in here. I've explained the sanctity of life to you ad nauseum for a year.
If you REALLY had any interest in understanding the Word of God and his teaching on life you would have accepted (maybe not agreed with) all my answers I've already given you and moved on.
You actually don't want believers to answer you repetitive questions. You only desire to argue and stir up strife over and over and over and over.......
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Wow - pretty darned defensive there, Stretch.

I think you have me confused w/ another poster. Not surprising, since you always seem confused - but I think this is the 1st time I've actually discussed abortion w/ you directly. It certainly hasn't been "month after month."

I honestly wasn't trying to troll or provoke; not sure why you're so afraid of that discussion, but I'll stay away from it if it bothers you that much.
 
Covfefe said:
Interesting, I’ll give you props, then you are one of very few who are consistent, since many Christian couples seek help with their fertility issues in this fashion.
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Whatever other "Christians" do is not my problem. God will only hold me accountable for MY decisions in life. I have my own sins and shortcomings to overcome with God's grace. Thankfully he's very merciful.
 
Stretch said:
Please stop embarrassing yourself. Take it up with God. You've provoked these arguments month after month in here. I've explained the sanctity of life to you ad nauseum for a year.
If you REALLY had any interest in understanding the Word of God and his teaching on life you would have accepted (maybe not agreed with) all my answers I've already given you and moved on.
You actually don't want believers to answer you repetitive questions. You only desire to argue and stir up strife over and over and over and over.......
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If you had an interest in teaching your belief as Jesus intended you to do you would never tire of the teaching.


face it


you have misinterpited what Jesus wants you to do.

dont blame us
 
Stretch said:
Whatever other "Christians" do is not my problem. God will only hold me accountable for MY decisions in life. I have my own sins and shortcomings to overcome with God's grace. Thankfully he's very merciful.
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so those babies are bad?
 
Stretch said:
Whatever other "Christians" do is not my problem. God will only hold me accountable for MY decisions in life. I have my own sins and shortcomings to overcome with God's grace. Thankfully he's very merciful.
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How do you know he is merciful? He supposedly wiped out the entire population of the Earth except for Noah and his family and plans to do so again at sometime, how is that being merciful?
 
exactly


they blame others for them not having truely thought their position out themselves throughly.


they just accepted it from some other person
 
evince said:
there is no god

see how you use your beliefs to climb above others who dont share your religion
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Well there you go. Thanks for coming clean. Then we have nothing to discuss...no Christian will discuss or argue this topic with you because the core beliefs are not in common. We can debate all kinds of other WORLDY topics, but there can be no conversation of Biblical and Godly matters if we can't even agree on the very EXISTANCE of God and an acknowledgment of God's Word.
This is not an insult to you. Please understand. This is common sense and logical. It's also in God's Word (which you don't believe in)...

2 Corinthians 6:14 Do not keep company with those who have not faith: for what is there in common between righteousness and evil, or between light and dark?
 
Stretch said:
Well there you go. Thanks for coming clean. Then we have nothing to discuss...no Christian will discuss or argue this topic with you because the core beliefs are not in common. We can debate all kinds of other WORLDY topics, but there can be no conversation of Biblical and Godly matters if we can't even agree on the very EXISTANCE of God and an acknowledgment of God's Word.
This is not an insult to you. Please understand. This is common sense and logical. It's also in God's Word (which you don't believe in)...

2 Corinthians 6:14 Do not keep company with those who have not faith: for what is there in common between righteousness and evil, or between light and dark?
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then you need to move to godlandia


America does not allow religious bigotry
 
Thing1 said:
And how do you know what the soul's position on abortion is, or what happens to the "soul" of an aborted fetus?

There has been a fair amount of past life regression and NDE therapy that talks about that. Personally, I think it's unlikely that an abortion in the 1st trimester has any bearing on any soul out there.
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You don't believe in God. You haven't a clue regarding life and a soul.
 
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